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The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

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2C-E has produced a number of great trips for me. like most other psychedelics it seems like it enhances my luck to an extreme degree. it has all the length and intensity of a good strong mushroom trip with none of the loss of judgement. sometimes leaves me a little tweaky. sometimes lasts a little too long.

doses: i was taught 15-20mg. my doses have all been 16mg or 18mg which has never really caused a problem. might want to drop the dose a bit for people over 40.

one thing i found that i might have missed in this thread is that you can completely overcome the nausea problem by opening your capsule, dropping the powder in water (or orange juice if you're feeling brave, i tried this as i was getting on an hour speedboat ride to amazing effect) and letting it dissolve before drinking.

i have yet to try any of the other 2C drugs, but after experiencing this one i'd certainly be up for it.
 
It's true, I'm very insensitive to visual hallucinations. It takes me much higher doses than it takes other people to see visuals. I saw my first visuals on 2c-e.
 
IGNVS said:
im going to be geting some 2C-E soon, what would you all sugest as a first time dose. its fall. i love fall. is tripin outside strait?
will people tell your tripin like on acid? (dont rele care, intersesting responses and experiences welcome)
what would you sugest... ...what sugesttions would you make. i cant think of anything right now, want to have a b-e-a-utiful experience help me out bluelight.

oh ps: the only phenethylamine ive ever taken was MDMA about a year ago (in october!) thats not even realy a pea ne more more of an amphetamine but w/e

how do phenes compare to tryps like dmt and acid. i know the answers are all over but i want some personal answers, get what im sayin. just like throw in some shit at the end of your post if you decide to reply to my request.
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2C-E is awesome, and I mean that literally as in "awe-inspiring". The only psych I've ever had that really compared with 2C-E was LSD, which is odd because you'd think 2C-E would feel more like mescaline based on its structure. It doesn't. Mescaline has never been a good experience for me, 2C-E almost always has been. The main difference is that 2C-E preserves clarity of thought in ways most other psychedelics don't.

The main piece of advice I'd give is to have some form of physical activity available, even if it's just walking around -- phens, and 2C-E more than most, can have a strong body buzz that will become unpleasant if you can't "work it out".

Rectal is the best MOA for 2C-E, it quickens the comeup dramatically (you will be at ++ within 10 minutes or so) and reduces side effects. HOWEVER, with rectal admin the already-steep dose/response curve gets steeper yet, which means you must either have a VERY accurate scale or use a calculated amount of a dilute H20 solution. Preferably both. My usual rule of thumb is to use half an oral dose.

Do not combine 2C-E with hydergine. I doubt this will be a problem since very few people use hydergine, but I just thought I'd mention it. I had a bad experience once combining the two (nasty headache, dizziness, muscle tremors, basically had to lay down for a few hours but couldn't sleep).
 
Its been about a year since I first tried 2CE, and a number of new worlds have opened up to me.

It is a very good chemical, I first tried it at a noticeable dose of around 12mg. It was very beautiful walking in the fall, as the leaves drifted around me, orange, yellow, brown, red, gold.

It wasn't until another day, when I had taken around 4mg, that I was walking outside in the woods on another beautiful North Carolina fall day and the walls completely broke down inside of me and I began crying very, very hard.

I felt a strong opening in my heart and a renewed love for everything around me.

Time ticks on, we are all organic, living creatures in constant change, evolution, creation.

2CE expanded me.
 
You guys are making me excited! =D I should have some 2C-E within a couple of weeks. Its been at the top of my list to try for a long time. I think I might start with a low dose ~5 oral first and then maybe try plugging the same.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
Its been about a year since I first tried 2CE, and a number of new worlds have opened up to me.

It is a very good chemical, I first tried it at a noticeable dose of around 12mg. It was very beautiful walking in the fall, as the leaves drifted around me, orange, yellow, brown, red, gold.

It wasn't until another day, when I had taken around 4mg, that I was walking outside in the woods on another beautiful North Carolina fall day and the walls completely broke down inside of me and I began crying very, very hard.

I felt a strong opening in my heart and a renewed love for everything around me.

Time ticks on, we are all organic, living creatures in constant change, evolution, creation.

2CE expanded me.
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Nice, I also have never tried 2ce and believe it sounds wonderful. The relatively few 2c's I've tried have been very beneficial in the low/threshold range.
 
I haven’t used 2C-E in a while about 6 months or so, a couple of times I used it a mouths or a few weeks apart and it seemed to lose a lot of it’s magic.
I have had a lot of changes lately and feel like life is building up to a good experience and it is almost time for a good 2C-E trip. I don’t want to plan for it or expect too much because then it will turn out weak, that is how it usually goes with psychedelics but I have a feeling that a good 2C-E trip is in my near future.
2C-E is a special substance for me it is so expanding and deep it takes a good week to integrate the trip and process the stuff that went though my subconscious. The underlying levels of this stuff is just amazing.
 
You know, this is really strange. I had some 2C-E a couple years ago, and I sampled it on two seperate occasions if memory serves me correctly. Neither of them were very intense, and this was at 20mg, both times. It was taken in a capsule and kicked in within a 'normal' timeframe (20 minutes).

Anyway, as I said neither of them were very intense. The way it is being described in this thread, makes me think that maybe I got some shitty product. It did not 'captivate' me in the way that mushrooms, LSD, and DPT have. Hell, LSA has captivated me. 2C-E just gave me a very strange feeling of neutrality. Hell, one of the two times I ate 20mg at my job and it wasn't too bad. Stupid yes, but I handled it fine.

What the fuck?
 
this chemical is powerful.Only drug that has caused complete ego loss for me and the visuals are simply stunning. its a ride but very rewarding.
 
trancedeviate said:
You know, this is really strange. I had some 2C-E a couple years ago, and I sampled it on two seperate occasions if memory serves me correctly. Neither of them were very intense, and this was at 20mg, both times. It was taken in a capsule and kicked in within a 'normal' timeframe (20 minutes).

Anyway, as I said neither of them were very intense. The way it is being described in this thread, makes me think that maybe I got some shitty product. It did not 'captivate' me in the way that mushrooms, LSD, and DPT have. Hell, LSA has captivated me. 2C-E just gave me a very strange feeling of neutrality. Hell, one of the two times I ate 20mg at my job and it wasn't too bad. Stupid yes, but I handled it fine.

What the fuck?
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yeah the report i posted above was the same, it wasn't all too intense or profound and very malleable.
 
I have the same trouble getting an intense trip on 2C-E when taken orally. Nasally is a whole different matter though.
2C-E is the only phenethylamine I have tried, so I have been wondering if the problem with oral ingestion could be somehow related to phens. I have no problem getting intense trips with tryptamines when taken orally.
 
trancedeviate said:
You know, this is really strange. I had some 2C-E a couple years ago, and I sampled it on two seperate occasions if memory serves me correctly. Neither of them were very intense, and this was at 20mg, both times. It was taken in a capsule and kicked in within a 'normal' timeframe (20 minutes).

Anyway, as I said neither of them were very intense. The way it is being described in this thread, makes me think that maybe I got some shitty product. It did not 'captivate' me in the way that mushrooms, LSD, and DPT have. Hell, LSA has captivated me. 2C-E just gave me a very strange feeling of neutrality. Hell, one of the two times I ate 20mg at my job and it wasn't too bad. Stupid yes, but I handled it fine.

What the fuck?
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It kicked in in 20 minutes? That doesn't sound like oral 2C-E. It takes about 1 hour to feel at all for me orally, and 2 to really fully start, and it doesn't peak until hours 3-4. Rectally, 2C-E takes 20 minutes to come on for me, but not orally. You may have gotten another 2C-X, like 2C-C. 20mg of 2C-C would not be a strong experience, and it comes on much faster than 2C-E. Or perhaps you got a weak product, cut with something inactive. It's hard to say.

SuperExtraNuts, how much experience do you have with psychedelics, and do you trip a lot (have tolerance)? I ask because I have used a lot of psychedelics and I find it hard to have a strong trip on phenethylamines in particular, especially when taken orally. But my first trips with 2C-E were when I had not done a lot of tripping yet, and an 18mg oral 2C-E trip was the most powerful experience I've ever had. Now, though, if I want a strong experience I have to take it rectally (or maybe take a lot orally, but I don't want to do that), and even then it doesn't touch the power of those first trips.
 
I find it perfectly normal for the first alerts to appear in 20-30 minutes on 2C-E. The timeline really resembles that of LSD a lot for me - I usually reach the peak at around an hour and half. At least I've found that to be true for doses above 20mg (it's been too long since I took less than 20mg for me to remember the exact timeline, I'd wager the comeup was slower then).
 
Xorkoth said:
It kicked in in 20 minutes? That doesn't sound like oral 2C-E. It takes about 1 hour to feel at all for me orally
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Let me clarify. I meant that I felt the first alerts within 20 minutes (i.e. 'something is happening here...') and reached peak within 90 minutes or so. It is possible that it was cut with an inert substance, but I am pretty sure that it was indeed 2C-E; I read a bunch of reports before I took it and after the experience I went back to look at them again, the character of the substance seemed to fit very well. It was neither euphoric, nor was it dysphoric. It was just a really weird place to be in. Neutral is the word I kept hearing people use. I would also say that I did not enjoy the trip in the traditional sense of the word. It was more like my mind had shifted gears and I found myself in a very peculiar and analytical mental state. Visuals were present to a very minor degree.

I didn't have a profound experience, it was actually pretty boring. 2C-I and 2C-E are the only specimens I have tasted from the 2C line, and it's safe to say that 2C-I was more intense than 2C-E for me.

In any case, I have another sample of the stuff on it's way to me now, so I will use them when time permits and report back.
 
^ It is possible that your 2C-E was cut if you had such unimpressive results from 20mg. Or your natural tolerance to it is very high (assuming you had no acute tolerance to psychedelics at the time). Either way, you simply didn't get to taste the real power of this substance. 2C-E can be totally earth-shattering at high doses, make no mistake about that. Also, when taking the dosage higher, make note of the fact that the dose-response curve is very steep for 2C-E - adding even as little as 2mg to the dosage is said to double the intensity of the trip.
 
^ Well, to be honest, I'm all too well familiar with the types of experiences you're describing, and I can assure you, I lived in that kind of a world for a while during my heydey. Probably age 16-19 I first tripped and experienced the instatiable urge for knowedge, bliss, understanding, and ultimate bliss from psychedelics. Got a little bit caught up, These days I just trip when I can really find the time to cut aside a 12 hour block of no responsibilites - which has becoming exceedingly hard recently... really sucks.

I definitely take most of my trips pretty seriously these days, just because I've grown up a bit in the 2 years when I abstained, and try to make each one very important.

I look forward to trying the 2C-E :)
 
I view tripping these days as something I can do for myself as well as the universe around me.

I feel honored that I am allowed to release this beauty into reality simply by wrapping my serotonin receptors around a tryptamine (or phen) molecule.

OM!
 
I had my first experience with 2C-E a couple nights ago. It went waaaaaaaay beyond anything I had expected. This is partly because I'm a moron and tried to weigh out 8mg on my milligram scale when I should've just dissolved a bunch in water and measured it that way. Visually it appeared to be about twice what I wanted, but as I had never weighed the substance before I just went ahead and took it.

After about an hour I could notice that things looked very different. I was watching House and people's skin kept morphing and such. After another hour I went back to my room and layed down with my MP3 player and high quality in-ear headphones. This was the best part of the trip. I could literally see the music, and the images I saw were incredibly beautiful. I would get lost in each song. After I listened to music for about an hour I went and played some counter strike which was interesting because it felt like I was on autopilot. I was thinking deep thoughts while my body was doing something completely different. I just kinda dicked around in my room for the rest of the trip which lasted a good ten hours. Yeah this report isn't that great, but I'm never any good at these things.

My biggest problem was, as usual for me, the awful body load. It made me feel TERRIBLE. Does anyone have a solution for this?
 
I liked your report, Broshious! It's nice to read something succinct and unpretentious that makes signifigant observations about the experience. I've read reports that seemed to me to have been agonized over, word by word, by the author and the net result is a bigger pile of words to sift through for the important bits.
 
Thanks for sharing :)

I have found that 2C-E's body load is in large part psychosomatic and is triggered by psychological discomfort. As I have gotten more comfortable with psytchedelics and 2C-E in particular, it has stopped feeling weird, but then whenever something happens to make me briefly uncomfortable, the weirdness returns.

If it gets bad, a little of an opiate, most preferrably kratom, can fix it right up, but that's best to avoid. A benzo can also but an opiate will leave the deepness of the mental state more intact.

The best option, however, it to be outside in nature, especially during the day. I find that'll take away most any discomfort with any psychedelic. Or for that matter, in any state of mind, anytime. Nature is essential.
 
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