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The Big and Dandy Salvia Thread (Archived start - 1-20-08)

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I don’t know if I will go back to Salvialand, the more I went the more intense it got. After a while it would give me the strongest feeling of you should not be here. The more awareness I got in there the harder it got to handle the horrible scary truth of Salvia. I think I have done it enough that I have enough trips to reflect on.
I think every psyconaut should try it. It is just so different and unique. It’s kind of like the spooky abandoned building when you were a kid you have to go in there at lest once just to say you have been in there.
 
Xorkoth said:
I'm afraid to go back because of all the reports. But the reports are also the reason I want to go back. Conundrum!
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The thing with salvia is that it is REALER then real. It has made every other experience I've had pale in significance and magnitude to this drug....I strongly urge you to try it Xorkoth. If psychedelic drugs contain any form of magic/energy, this one has the lot. Salvia has really shaped my view on reality; that it is way way way stranger then anything we could ever imagine. DMT reinforces the idea- but salvia showed it, directly before my eyes. I was in another world, no question about it. 8o
 
I'm sorta hesitant to go back, but seeing how some people seem to have such profound experiences with it makes me want to try it again...
I'm starting to think that maybe salvia just "works" for some people and doesn't for others though, and maybe I'm one of the "others"
to willow11 (or anyone who wants to answer): Is it really worth trying another trip? Is there something that salvia exclusively offers that I can't get from another drug?
 
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to willow11 (or anyone who wants to answer): Is it really worth trying another trip? Is there something that salvia exclusively offers that I can't get from another drug?
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I personally think that salvia does certainly have a very unique profile- the effects are just too incredibly vivid and realistic and bizarre that its (for me at least) hard to dismiss. Most people I've spoken to have said they got nothing from salvia; I certainly don't get the typical psychedleic effect of onenesss, euphoria, lucid thinking from salvia, but it has something so intriguingly strange about it that I believe it is worth cautiously exploring. Something I have foudn, to my great relief, is that I don't really need to breakthrough anymore to achieve startling results- even the taste of salvia causes a kind of instant recall.

I have my doubts as to how safe it is, but I'm a cautious person, and I worry about the way in which is promoted and sold in some countries simply because, in my experience, its the most mind altering substance I've put into me. Defintely worth a shot, and I've continued using it sporadically- I'm not sure why, but there you have it.... Once you get used the breakthrough, which takes a while, a lot of the terror goes, but for me at least, never the blanketing sense o f confusion.
 
Just thought I'd throw this question out there:

If you had to relate Saliva to another drug in intensity, what would it be?

LSD?
Mescaline?
Maybe even DPT or 5-MeO-DMT?
 
^Impossible to do really; but yeah maybe 5-mEO-dmt, but it is still infintely more enjoyable. Maybe datura mixed with PCP is a close comparision :)
 
Ive been reading more salvia experiences recently, and whatching countless youtube videos and getting personal first hand experience reports from friends, and i have noticed a few traits of the salvia trip that tend to repeat.

1) Many people feel the sense of movement, usually circular like and repeating; I have heard it described as revolving doors, marrigoround, tank treads, rolling, car movement, sumersaulting.

2) Sense of movement through a membrane. The feeling can only be described as that, "passing through a membrane" Possibly comparable to your own birth, slightly discomforting. Many people experience this feeling with the feeling of circular movement

3) Beings/entities. I have heard many many different types of entities people encoucnter. One that i have found repeating a few times is a gumby like figure, with a slanted like head, usually short and colorsfull, greens and yellows.

4) Being on a tv show and feelings that come along with it:
Feeling that everyone is in on it, you are being whatched and viewed and controlled. Your hole life was a lie and you just found out.

5) Time echoing: hearing the same persons word over and over.

6) Being trapped in the wall. Described as feeling like a lego, and also i have heard the entities described as lego and 2 dimensional like.

7) Feeling like a child. Breing brought back to childhood memories and scenes. Feeling as if you are there again as your child self ect.

Thats the main ones i noticed. Please feedback! Comments/ experience.

And feel free to move this or start a new thread.
 
number 6 is my favourite from there. Its like my hands sink itno the chair/bed/table and become one with it. like that guy from the movie hulk.

nice job with the obsevations :)
 
^I find those effectsb to occurrr on sub breakthrough doses mainly. A fully immersionary experience is impossible to capture in words. 3 is quite accurate, I've often encountered waxlike green figures on my trips.
 
^The ones I get a lot:

1 -I get a lot when reality splits and turns to repeating moving patterns always a different pattern each time.

4- (“Your hole life was a lie and you just found out.”) I hate that feeling!

6- the feeling trapped in a wall salvia plasters me against the wall and I become part of Salvialand.

7- Salvia always brings back a scene from my childhood when I was about 6 yrs old or so.

So have you tried Salvia yet or you are still reading about it?
 
willow11 said:
^I find those effectsb to occurrr on sub breakthrough doses mainly. A fully immersionary experience is impossible to capture in words. 3 is quite accurate, I've often encountered waxlike green figures on my trips.
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call me n00b but what is breakthrough?
 
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Salvia is a very strange substance. It is in a class of its own as far as I am conserned. With LSD/shrooms and the like I still know I am real. I still know that the world arround me exists and that I am in control of my mind and body. With Salvia it is completly different. I lost complete control of my mind and felt like I did not even exist.

Ever time I got close to a "breakthrough" I felt like it kept telling me "you are close, please take more and come visit me". Before my "breakthrough" I was still aware of what was going on arround me and knew I was still human and in my room. But once I crossed that line finaly ... "breakthrough"... all reality was gone. It was like my body did not exist. I was blasted into a whole new reality where all I knew before failed to exist. That is the "breakthrough"... when I finaly was able to step from reality and into a completly different world.
 
5 posts up^ i watched a friend have a massive freak out of body convulstions and head shakes/incohearant babbling and stumbling to come back saying that he was a part of this huge story/movie, that we were all watching him/judging, he kept repeating "is this a movie? is this a movie?"

i feel as though i've gotten all i want from salvia.. maybe im just a little spoiled to say i'd be all over salvia if it had a euphoric afterglow but theres just something about the empty/shallowness that it leaves me with is just a bit uncomfortable.. though i can fully respect what salvia is and can do, i won't see myself coming back any time soon
 
I don’t like the empty lost feeling it gives me. But it takes me farther into the dark forbidden place in my mind then anything. I have seen the place from a distance on mushrooms the dark viod that feels like déjà vu. Salvia with take you there, but it is a dark forbidden place. I'm not sure if I like it.
 
^thats just it...salvia should be about liking it in a usual recreational drug sort of way. why do you think its still legal. I cant even put words to it, some one help me out here..
 
^ Relatively new, to the street drug scene, no one knows about it its Non-toxic, no fatalities. Its overall effects arent looked at very pleasently so it has a low rate of abuse. Its getting looked at now though, its just everyone is too lazy dealing witht the war and everything else to schedule it. SIdes i think it would be horrible if it was made illegal.
 
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