Hi,
Just thought I'd comment on experiences using 2 different routes of administration (ROAs), vaporising Vs. sub-lingual as I've found them really quite different in the overall effect, pleasantness and unwanted side effects. First let me say my measurements. I measured 5mg 2C-C-NBOMe HCl into 2.5mL of vodka (standard 37% alcohol stuff).
Now it was a little while ago but my memory should be correct... first dosage I used 0.1ml of solution which should be 200µg ± 100µg (approx to factor in accuracy of measurements). I heated the liquid in a glass pipe and inhaled. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to inhale a good deal of the ethanol as it evaporated as it may have been some of the reason for the tightness of breath/asthma. Once the solution dies it vaporised quickly (keep in mind if you use a similar method as it's easy to miss the chemical vapour while waiting for the liquid to boil off).
I was reminded of how well suited the cracky (glass vaporising pipe) is to vaporising wizz & shard (methamphetamine) but not psychedelics as the sudden onset makes the anxiety of most psychedelics I've every vaporised much more pronounced and generally leads the way to a bad experience. The rapid onset of vaping the 2C-C-NBOMe leaves me really quite anxious and uneasy. I feel a number of annoying unpleasant side effects. A real tightness of breath close to a mild panic attack and a mild asthma attack that leaves me puffing on a asthma inhaler without too much benefit. (Again was this from inhaling the ethanol vapour?) As the trip goes on I'm really, fairly anxious, wheezing and experiencing sensitivity or pain in my muscles and teeth (I have no tooth problems). I get the hint of the visuals but nothing emerges except some faint light splitting into mild colours. I feel unpleasant, shivering, sensitivity to lights and some queasiness (although not nausea). I wanted to abort at T+40mins with some benzos as I was just really having enough of the panicky feeling but strangely enough my mind realised therapeutic potential and wrote down important insights till T+1:40 when 10mg diazapam was finally taken. T+2:05 appetite comes back and feel more relaxed. I'll end the experience here for that session.
About 1 week later I decided to try again 2C-C-NBOMe. Since smoking had been far too anxiety provoking and nothing like the fairly relaxed/sedating and visual eye candy of 2C-C I tried a different ROA. I tried this time 600µg ± 240µg (approx to factor in accuracy of measurements). I tried a sub-lingual ROA by squirting the 0.3mL under my tongue and holding for ages. This really sucked as the alcohol was too strong and burned my tongue and mouth I also had a mouth full of liquid as trying the sub-lingual dose a few mL of alcohol solution only leads to more saliva in the mouth. The effects came on without any wheezing/asthma/tightness of chest this time. I came on with much less anxiety although it was still present. Effects seemed a little stronger. Maybe just a little less towards the visual side of things but still nothing like any decent 2C-x. No real visuals. This is no 2C-C (which I've come to admire again over the years). There is none the the relaxed chilled/sedated come up. There is no amazing 3D eye candy visuals or the same great usable short 4-6hr trip. This NBOMe version seems to lack visuals, gain much more anxiety/speediness and be harder to face the real therapeutic/psychedelic potential as a result. This it only from 2 trials and it easily could be that my 2nd trial was fairly week because of the week before trial. Overall I like 2C-C for it's just plain ease of use compared with most psychedelics. It's easy to trip balls and have a full on eye candy experience while still keeping it all together and being able to feel fairly relaxed and handle most things. I like quite a number of 2C-x substances but 2C-C-NBOME seems much more anxiety provoking, less fun, less visuals and a fairly longish duriation considering how weak the visuals/mental aspects are (approx 8-10hrs).
I'm wanting to try oral or sub-lingual again just to test if this is is stronger/ more visual and psychedelic after a good break. Can anyone tell me from their experience if oral (swallowing) will work as opposed to sub-lingual? I really don't want to burn my mouth again trying sub-lingual dosages with 37% ethanol. If someone's tried oral (from their own powder not some unknown strength blotters) and it does nothing then maybe I'll have to sqirt a dose of liquid onto a tiny square of paper and hope It'll evaporate into a tab for better sub-lingual dosage?!?
This is only my 2nd trial but so far I don't see what all the hype is about. This could well be another one of the anxiety provoking tryptamine horde of RC's rather than a 2C-x type substance. Just for the record 2C-E, 2C-C, and 2C-I are some of my favourite psychedelics out of a fairly decent range of RC's and standard psychedelics.