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The Big and Dandy NBOMe-2C-C (25C-NBOMe) Thread

So, while it might be an odd question, are there any known side 'negative/neutral' side effects with this stuff that people should be aware of before using? In comparison to other psychedelics like LSD/Psilocybin.
 
Well being that this is entirely new in the human experience, i don't think anyone can say with certainty what type of longer term side effects there would be, but i doubt it would be worse than 2c-x, and almost undoubtedly safer than bromo-DFLY. In the short term the only things i've noticed have been increased heart rate (which happens to some degree with most psychedelics) and increased blood pressure (which is not unexpected with such a potent 5-HT agonist)
 
That's what I expected, just wanted to make sure before I became the guinea big. Is distilled water okay for the HCL? Anyone got any recommended mg/ml ratio for using up my nose?

Can't wait to try this one!
 
If I dissolve 20mg of '25C' in 10ml of distilled water will '10 units (on an insulin syringe) = 200mcg?' ...I have done the math a few times but I really don't trust myself enough..is this correct? and also I don't want to add alcohol to the solution if it isnt necessary, if I use sterile distilled water would it be fine to just store it as a liquid or should I freeze it for long term storage (as to prevent bacterial bullshit)?
 
Karcinogenious said:
If I dissolve 20mg of '25C' in 10ml of distilled water will '10 units (on an insulin syringe) = 200mcg?' ...I have done the math a few times but I really don't trust myself enough..is this correct? and also I don't want to add alcohol to the solution if it isnt necessary, if I use sterile distilled water would it be fine to just store it as a liquid or should I freeze it for long term storage (as to prevent bacterial bullshit)?
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IMPORTANT PLEASE READ make sure what size your insulin syringe is before doing this math as there are both .5mL and 1mL insulin syringes that I have used myself as a diabetic, both are fairly common and depend on the size of the needle (so they are prescribed to different body types).

if your syringe is 1mL, 10 units = 1/10 of the syringe, which is .1mL, your solution is 2mg/mL, your amount will be 200mcg. Your amount will be 100mcg if using a .5mL syringe.
 
I dont think this is either a .5ml or 1ml..I'll describe it as best as I can..it says 3/10cc at the bottom (I'm pretty sure 1cc=1ml) and it has 30 units down the length of it..so I assumed that 10 units would be 1/10 of a 1cc which is 1/10 of a mL right, so that would be work out to be 200mcg of solution based on what I dissolved. Here's the syringe, I tried to find it online http://www.allegromedical.com/syringes-c570/insulin-syringe-3-10cc-30g-x-5-16-p549029.html so you can see what I am talking about. But if 10 units on the syringe is equal to 1/10 of 1cc(or mL), and 20mg of substance is dissolved in 10ml, than 10 units of that solution should equal 200mcg in solution right?...you really have me concerned that my measurements are off now and I wanna be sure that these 10 units = 200mcg...thanks for the help
 
I just wanna say common sense is telling me I am right on this, but I am very unfamiliar with insulin syringes and just wanted to be sure about my math...
 
The 3/10 cc just means three tenths of a cubic centimeter, which, yes, means three tenths of a milliliter. 100 insulin units = 1 cc = 1 mL. You bought syringes with 0.3 mL volume in them instead of 0.5 or 1.0 is all.

Like one of these guys? (pictured on the bottom)
Disposable_Insulin_Syringe.jpg


Better to be sure about these things before taking the plunge.
 
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Karcinogenious said:
I dont think this is either a .5ml or 1ml..I'll describe it as best as I can..it says 3/10cc at the bottom (I'm pretty sure 1cc=1ml) and it has 30 units down the length of it..so I assumed that 10 units would be 1/10 of a 1cc which is 1/10 of a mL right, so that would be work out to be 200mcg of solution based on what I dissolved. Here's the syringe, I tried to find it online http://www.allegromedical.com/syringes-c570/insulin-syringe-3-10cc-30g-x-5-16-p549029.html so you can see what I am talking about. But if 10 units on the syringe is equal to 1/10 of 1cc(or mL), and 20mg of substance is dissolved in 10ml, than 10 units of that solution should equal 200mcg in solution right?...you really have me concerned that my measurements are off now and I wanna be sure that these 10 units = 200mcg...thanks for the help
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You are correct, my apologies as it's been about 6 years since I've used a 3/10cc insulin syringe and I forgot that they existed (they're mostly for children... when you get bigger, you need more than 30 units sometimes and the needle needs to penetrate the fat more I believe)

But yes, your math is correct, so bottoms up and I hope you enjoy your experience!
 
Cool thanks for the confirmation on that, I was a little iffy about it...and I didn't buy them or anything, they were given to me and I don't really like shoot drugs (it seems difficult to do with guys even if I did lol, theyre pretty pathetic...) but they are the perfect thing to measure out intranasal doses...I am gonna start at 500mcg and then try 1mg dose a week or so later to try and reduce tolerance...I'll post how it goes for sure....

I really want to say thanks, I have been on a lot of forums and bluelight kicks ass, I have been snooping on here for years and I can say that some forums just have significantly more stupid people and you guys on here 1)know your shit 2)are helpful 3)are people I would actually hang out with lol...thanks for the help, I am sure I will post again soon too..glad to be a part of this network
 
I don't want to keep bothering you guys but I am still wondering about how to store this shit..I dont trust my self (or my scale) to accurately divide up the 20mg..I feel more comfortable just taking my premeasured 20mg and dumping it straight in solution..but what about storage after that, should I just throw it in the fridge(I dont want shit growin in it)? I am confused about how much alcohol to add and what kind, they just banned high proof alcohol in my fuck nut state so I am stuck with lower proof alcohols as an option (I think they still sell everclear but its 75.5% now)....If I make the solution with 20% everclear 80% distilled water would that be sufficient for long-term storage as a liquid of 25C, or RCs in gneral for that matter? or is there a better ratio and alcohol I should fuck with...this is my last question I promise haha
 
Try adding an extra weight to your scales without tareing it. Remember how much it weighs, take it off, add the 25c, put it back on, subtract the original weight from it and there you go! For some scales that aren't as sensitive at low mg doses this is an excellent way to work out the amount, however I wouldn't do this with a scale that was less than 0.001 in this case.
 
Yeah if I had a scale that sensitive I might do that but I am already making a liquid solution so I can really be exact and I guess I rambled a little in the last post but my main question was, in a liquid solution kept away from light and refrigerated how long is the shelf life on 25C? It should be similar to 2C-C right, well maybe not, but I am sure someone has experience with saving solutions made up with this compound or at least something similar..whats the best way to save it?
 
And also I think SpecialK_ asked for a recommendation on the ratio for a solution that's done nasally...
What I'm thinking after reading all 37 pages of this thread:

20mg (25C) in 10ml (h20/alc)
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units | mcg (of 25C)
0.5 = 10
5 = 100
10 = 200
25 = 500

*unit = 1/10ml
...thats just what I did to simplify things, I dont know if its just me, but fucking with numbers that tiny can be hard to follow so I just like to write it all out so I can visualize it..but I guess do whatever works for you, this shit is definitely worthy of respect tho and should be carefully measured
 
So no one knows about storage of this shit? I still dont know if alcohol is crucial, if its fridged would it even matter if it was just water solution with out alcphol in it, wouldn't the temp keep growth pretty much gone?
 
Depends how long you want to store it, for more than a week or two I wouldn't count on the fridge, bacteria can still grow pretty fast in there. If you don't want to use alcohol you could probably pasteurise it by putting the vial in a pan of boiling water for a few minutes after you make the solution, and every time you use it.
 
Right, I was planning on doing that before I make up the solution but don't you think once 25c is in the solution heating up that much might cause it to break down?...I think I'm gonna preboil water to keep it low on the bacteria side in the beginning and use 8cc water, 2cc everclear/..is that enough to keep germs out for a couple months..Im gonna save it for atleast that long probably longer
 
Boiling it won't hurt the compound. And yeah, I think 20% alcohol is enough to stop anything growing.
 
Anyone able to comment on insufflated doses? I want a nice trip is 500ug too much or the right amount, as I'm seeing lots of different answers. How fast is the onset this way?
 
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