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The Big and Dandy NBOMe-2C-C (25C-NBOMe) Thread
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jesuskristus
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I tried my 25C on Friday but I under-dosed and only got threshold effectsDo you think I will have to wait the 2 weeks before using again or could I skip a week?
ROA and dosage? Just out of curiosity
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At first, i´d like to say hello to the BL forum. I´m new here and my english is not the best at all so i ask for pardon for errors in advance.
So i want to tell about my experience with the 25c-NMBOe blotters. I´ve enough experience with LSD and a lot of PEA from the RC-market, an so i thought about taking 2 blotters with 350µg, each. After all i was not really satisfied, cause the ROA was sublingual and i tried not to swallow any of the saliva. But i only had have (like a lot here user) only some threshold up to no effects. This made me think about other ROA and so i came here.
I just want to know if some plugged 25c-N... and had a real trip which was all at all a good one and might compare it to nasal. I´ve tried this way a once before (my girlfriend couldn´t belive what i was doing, and was a little bit... disgustingly & surprised) but only with MXE, so i´m interested in expereinces - also some other users might be disgustingly & surprised, too - but i think here, it´s a good way of application.
I know i might have read the complete thread, but i hope it´s o.k for me as a newbie to ask a question.
I guess 25C-NMBOe is a real nice RC and has more to offer than my disappointing experience.
Via nose is also a way to go, but in this case the dosing and physical problems might be worse (surface and dripping before accommodation) and so i wrote this question.
Kindly Bart
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Ups i forgot, that i also want to know an answer, because i´ve got more freebase and want to know what should/could/will be my next type of processing for later experiences.
THX
So i want to tell about my experience with the 25c-NMBOe blotters. I´ve enough experience with LSD and a lot of PEA from the RC-market, an so i thought about taking 2 blotters with 350µg, each. After all i was not really satisfied, cause the ROA was sublingual and i tried not to swallow any of the saliva. But i only had have (like a lot here user) only some threshold up to no effects. This made me think about other ROA and so i came here.
I just want to know if some plugged 25c-N... and had a real trip which was all at all a good one and might compare it to nasal. I´ve tried this way a once before (my girlfriend couldn´t belive what i was doing, and was a little bit... disgustingly & surprised) but only with MXE, so i´m interested in expereinces - also some other users might be disgustingly & surprised, too - but i think here, it´s a good way of application.
I know i might have read the complete thread, but i hope it´s o.k for me as a newbie to ask a question.
I guess 25C-NMBOe is a real nice RC and has more to offer than my disappointing experience.
Via nose is also a way to go, but in this case the dosing and physical problems might be worse (surface and dripping before accommodation) and so i wrote this question.
Kindly Bart
EDIT:
Ups i forgot, that i also want to know an answer, because i´ve got more freebase and want to know what should/could/will be my next type of processing for later experiences.
THX
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skillet
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Hey,
Plugging works well, and is really easy. For the freebase, I'd dissolve it in a little vinegar (say 1 drop per mg, though it might take a bit more, I've never tried it) then dilute to an appropriate volume with water, or 20% alcohol if you want to store it for some time.
Not reading the whole thread is excusable, i think, it's huge
You might want to read the last couple of pages though, or a few random pages.
Mitchi, a couple of people have said 2 weeks, I think. I'm kind of skeptical that it should be different from any other 2C/DOX though, if you have enough of the stuff and are willing it would be nice to have that verified...
Plugging works well, and is really easy. For the freebase, I'd dissolve it in a little vinegar (say 1 drop per mg, though it might take a bit more, I've never tried it) then dilute to an appropriate volume with water, or 20% alcohol if you want to store it for some time.
Not reading the whole thread is excusable, i think, it's huge
You might want to read the last couple of pages though, or a few random pages.Mitchi, a couple of people have said 2 weeks, I think. I'm kind of skeptical that it should be different from any other 2C/DOX though, if you have enough of the stuff and are willing it would be nice to have that verified...
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Skillet: O, i see. I thought it was a fact.
Right now I'm trying to find a good dose, after that I might try to find out how the tolerance is, I'll make sure to post it in this thread if I do
I noticed that my jaw was tightening, which is something I have never tried on a psych (or even on amphetamine)
Right now I'm trying to find a good dose, after that I might try to find out how the tolerance is, I'll make sure to post it in this thread if I do
I noticed that my jaw was tightening, which is something I have never tried on a psych (or even on amphetamine)
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I've been all over this thread for a while. Well, my 4 experiences with this substance has been quite fascinating. I am very very intrigued by it. There is quite a bit of a stimulating rush to it. I have a want to do things on it, very much so compared to other psychedelics. However, not as overpowering as my DOM experience. Anyway, a few questions. Has there been much talk of vasoconstriction? I really havent noticed much of any, but I just want to take any precautions. Secondly, would taking this with MDMA be a bad combo? Psychedelics always have brought a tiny bit of fear, maybe a fear of the unknown. Or maybe because I have thought I had died and definitely met God a few times. Either way, MDMA always brings out that calm, inner peace.
I was hoping a nice 75-100mg dose of MDMA and 650ug of 25C-nBOME (intranasally) would be perfect. I feel like I could really understand what this substance wants me to know, backed by that calmness of MDMA. Should this be cautioned? I always ensure proper doses. Thoughts would be appreciated
I was hoping a nice 75-100mg dose of MDMA and 650ug of 25C-nBOME (intranasally) would be perfect. I feel like I could really understand what this substance wants me to know, backed by that calmness of MDMA. Should this be cautioned? I always ensure proper doses. Thoughts would be appreciated
IamMe90
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I haven't read the entirety of the thread or even the last few pages to make sure this information hasn't already been posted but I figure it can't hurt to post it just in case.
Someone from a very well-known RC community accidentally ingested 30mg nasally of 25c-nbome and, while experiencing an excruciatingly intense trip, was for all intents and purposes, physically fine. I thought that dosage/safety information could be valuable. That being said, don't go snorting 30mg of this stuff, kids... but it looks like there is potential for a relatively low risk-level, which assuages some of my fears that these nbomes will get media attention from idiots abusing them.
Someone from a very well-known RC community accidentally ingested 30mg nasally of 25c-nbome and, while experiencing an excruciatingly intense trip, was for all intents and purposes, physically fine. I thought that dosage/safety information could be valuable. That being said, don't go snorting 30mg of this stuff, kids... but it looks like there is potential for a relatively low risk-level, which assuages some of my fears that these nbomes will get media attention from idiots abusing them.
psood0nym
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^Don't use a nasal spray bottle. There's no way to get a consistent volume/dose per squeeze. Buy insulin syringes (at a pharmacy or online) and cut off the needle with a wire cutter for nasal administration (or see an alternative way to cut the cap, linked to below). Dissolve the 25C in a known quantity so that one dose is 10 insulin units or so (small enough that the dose won't drip down your throat), and use it for liquid nasal dosing. The volume is right on the barrel (100 units in a 1cc syringe), so it couldn't be easier. I described how I did this in a little more detail earlier in the thread,here.
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Notes on this compound.
Much more readily soluble in lipids or alcohols than water, but still water soluble enough to be used.
Use distilled water, we feel that tap water probably degrades it. Distilled seems to work fine though.
Metered nasal mist bottles = perfect. they administer .1ml per pump most of the time but you can check it on a scale 1g=1ml. a 200ug/spray seems pretty appropriate.
First alerts are quick, and it builds very gradually from there, watch yourself though... this one will sneak up on you if you keep spraying it up your nose. Its kind of subtle like that. Someone could pick up a bottle of nasal spray and with 400ug or less they probably wouldn't even think they were on drugs. But they would be smiling, and in a really positive mood, maybe go out and do something.
No apparent comedown.
No suppression in appetite.
Tactile response is in my opinions on par with mdma.
Our faces hurt from smiling all night.
Sleep comes easy.
Also psoodonym, dont get the squeeze bottles, get the ones with a pump. You can fill them full of water, put it on a scale and watch it go down .1g every single time, and because .1g=.1ml it means that 25g/ml of distilled water will get around 250 sprays give or take 10 in either direction. 50mg comes out to 200ug a spray in 25ml of water.
If using a nasal spray, consider adding a minimal amount of ever-clear. Its very soluble in alcohols. It also has the decent aspect of you feeling a very dilute alcohol solution when breathing through your nose that lets you know that the thing actually sprayed. Just like a ml in 25 or.
They are astoundingly accurate. And you get a nice atomized mist.
Much more readily soluble in lipids or alcohols than water, but still water soluble enough to be used.
Use distilled water, we feel that tap water probably degrades it. Distilled seems to work fine though.
Metered nasal mist bottles = perfect. they administer .1ml per pump most of the time but you can check it on a scale 1g=1ml. a 200ug/spray seems pretty appropriate.
First alerts are quick, and it builds very gradually from there, watch yourself though... this one will sneak up on you if you keep spraying it up your nose. Its kind of subtle like that. Someone could pick up a bottle of nasal spray and with 400ug or less they probably wouldn't even think they were on drugs. But they would be smiling, and in a really positive mood, maybe go out and do something.
No apparent comedown.
No suppression in appetite.
Tactile response is in my opinions on par with mdma.
Our faces hurt from smiling all night.
Sleep comes easy.
Also psoodonym, dont get the squeeze bottles, get the ones with a pump. You can fill them full of water, put it on a scale and watch it go down .1g every single time, and because .1g=.1ml it means that 25g/ml of distilled water will get around 250 sprays give or take 10 in either direction. 50mg comes out to 200ug a spray in 25ml of water.
If using a nasal spray, consider adding a minimal amount of ever-clear. Its very soluble in alcohols. It also has the decent aspect of you feeling a very dilute alcohol solution when breathing through your nose that lets you know that the thing actually sprayed. Just like a ml in 25 or.
They are astoundingly accurate. And you get a nice atomized mist.
sekio
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My vial of 25c and Tween has single-celled life in it now. White floaty gooey shit. Bad news bears.
Preservatives are needed, I think.
Preservatives are needed, I think.
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You can probably recover it through mild basification, followed by heavy dilution with IPA and then salting it out by adding NaCl (table salt). Two distinct layers should form, as the IPA will be much less soluble in the now heavily salted water. The prokaryotic fraction (or possibly eukaryotic if they are fancy single celled life!) should stay in the aqueous layer,and the 25C should migrate to the IPA layer, which will be the top layer.
Maybe try sodium benzoate as preservative. It's easy to get.
Maybe try sodium benzoate as preservative. It's easy to get.
sekio
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Yes, but there's still Tween left, and I have no idea what the bacteria/fungus has produced or even if it has eaten the 25c.
Happy trails, my single celled friends.
Luckily my bottle of 25d is unspoilt, as is my dry powder 25e.
Happy trails, my single celled friends.
Luckily my bottle of 25d is unspoilt, as is my dry powder 25e.
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The tween probably would migrate to the IPA layer too IMO. But yeah, you'll have their dirty excretion products all through your solution now. What, you don't like a little lactate or ethanol with your 25C? Heh. Ok, so you might get some phospholipids and nucleic acids and shit too 
I've been all over this thread for a while. Well, my 4 experiences with this substance has been quite fascinating. I am very very intrigued by it. There is quite a bit of a stimulating rush to it. I have a want to do things on it, very much so compared to other psychedelics. However, not as overpowering as my DOM experience. Anyway, a few questions. Has there been much talk of vasoconstriction? I really havent noticed much of any, but I just want to take any precautions. Secondly, would taking this with MDMA be a bad combo? Psychedelics always have brought a tiny bit of fear, maybe a fear of the unknown. Or maybe because I have thought I had died and definitely met God a few times. Either way, MDMA always brings out that calm, inner peace.
I was hoping a nice 75-100mg dose of MDMA and 650ug of 25C-nBOME (intranasally) would be perfect. I feel like I could really understand what this substance wants me to know, backed by that calmness of MDMA. Should this be cautioned? I always ensure proper doses. Thoughts would be appreciated
I took 40 mg. MDMA four hours after dose. I did not feel any problems. Got quite warm though, which was nice because the 25C made me feel cold
Thoughts of "Peak X" influencing your Set = Bleh
It's also probable that the tween would form an intermediate emulsion layer and prevent the IPA from salting out from the aqueous phase, unless clarification by centrifugation was a possibility.
Meh. I'd toss the filmy soup in the bin.
I realize it's exceedingly unlikely, but there is a chance of a sorta "Peak X"-like species being produced from fermentation of 5HT agonist precursors (ala the 1989 tryptophan supplement user deaths and the resulting FDA ban on tryptophan).
Sure those were Trypts and these are Phens, but who would want to be ruminating on whether that horrendous infection had manifested in his container while in the middle of a face plastering psychedelic experience? Ugh. Is that temperature fluctuation actually from the 25C or is it emanating from the nascent eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome induced by the fermentation products of some undefined little cruddy buggers?
Just ditch it dude. Take the loss and buy anew... then sterile filter followed by dividing into aliquots into sterile containers and freezing under conditions inhospitable to microbial growth.
It's also probable that the tween would form an intermediate emulsion layer and prevent the IPA from salting out from the aqueous phase, unless clarification by centrifugation was a possibility.
Meh. I'd toss the filmy soup in the bin.
I realize it's exceedingly unlikely, but there is a chance of a sorta "Peak X"-like species being produced from fermentation of 5HT agonist precursors (ala the 1989 tryptophan supplement user deaths and the resulting FDA ban on tryptophan).
Sure those were Trypts and these are Phens, but who would want to be ruminating on whether that horrendous infection had manifested in his container while in the middle of a face plastering psychedelic experience? Ugh. Is that temperature fluctuation actually from the 25C or is it emanating from the nascent eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome induced by the fermentation products of some undefined little cruddy buggers?
Just ditch it dude. Take the loss and buy anew... then sterile filter followed by dividing into aliquots into sterile containers and freezing under conditions inhospitable to microbial growth.
sekio
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I'm not making a fuss over ~4mg of compound. It's been confined to a little glass tube now where it can sit as a novelty until I can get a GC/MS 
The only "peak X" sort of effects I would be concerned about would be debenzylation or O-demthylation, neither of which are particularly desirable.
The only "peak X" sort of effects I would be concerned about would be debenzylation or O-demthylation, neither of which are particularly desirable.