The Big and Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread (Archive start - 4-14-2008)
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rogan
Bluelighter
I honestly don't know how you do it, I find the taste completely foul and find it impossible to keep them anywhere near my tongue for more than a few minutes.
Personally I think the lack of negative side effects are more a result of the actual batch of seeds rather than the method of administration considering you did actually swallow two seeds.
Personally I think the lack of negative side effects are more a result of the actual batch of seeds rather than the method of administration considering you did actually swallow two seeds.
Xorkoth
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I honestly thought the taste was not bad at all. Subtle, really... it didn't bother me at all. Then again, I hold exotic powders in my mouth, too. Or many of them.
Perhaps the batch of seeds had something to do with it, but I did only swallow two seeds out of 10... I think if you just swallowed two seeds, you wouldn't get negative side-effects either.
Perhaps the batch of seeds had something to do with it, but I did only swallow two seeds out of 10... I think if you just swallowed two seeds, you wouldn't get negative side-effects either.
rogan
Bluelighter
I've generally found that the physical side effects of the seeds start at doses that aren't psychedelic, so for me two decent strength seeds would make my stomach feel like shit without any actual trip.
Everyone is different though, guess I gotta man up and try the subling method before I comment anymore :D
Everyone is different though, guess I gotta man up and try the subling method before I comment anymore :D
IGNVS
Bluelighter
i just got the first hundred or so seeds from a series of morning glories on the side of my house! so excited to get more!
Hey people!
I am acquiring some HBWR sometime within the next few weeks, and wanting to know the best way to take them. After reading that post of some dude taking them rectally, im fairly interested in this approach(although he did take mgs, not hbwr) anyway, how many should i take?
i was thinking like 3-5, crush them into a powder in a mortar and pestle, mix with some water or something to turn them into a paste/watery substance then just inject(obviously without a needle) via a syringe into my ass. anything wrong with this method?
I know most psychedelics are generally twice as strong taken rectally, is this the case for HBWR? And would the powder and water turn into a paste or would it simply seperate because the powder is too heavy/non water absorbing(?), whats another way i could turn it into a paste/liquid.
thanks
I am acquiring some HBWR sometime within the next few weeks, and wanting to know the best way to take them. After reading that post of some dude taking them rectally, im fairly interested in this approach(although he did take mgs, not hbwr) anyway, how many should i take?
i was thinking like 3-5, crush them into a powder in a mortar and pestle, mix with some water or something to turn them into a paste/watery substance then just inject(obviously without a needle) via a syringe into my ass. anything wrong with this method?
I know most psychedelics are generally twice as strong taken rectally, is this the case for HBWR? And would the powder and water turn into a paste or would it simply seperate because the powder is too heavy/non water absorbing(?), whats another way i could turn it into a paste/liquid.
thanks
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
If you look up to the top of this page you'll see a report of me taking them sublingually. I found that method to work really well... I may try rectal one day (although I don't really want seed shell shards in there 
), but sublingual worked really well to eliminate the negatives and made me a new psychedelic friend.
As I mentioned, I haven't used rectal admin for HBWR, but I have for many other substances, so if I were to try it, here's what I'd do:
-Finely grind the seeds (VERY carefully if using something that produces heat like a coffee grinder)
-Dissolve them in DISTILLED water, like 5-10mL, whatever you want to use to inject. Let it soak for a while to extract the actives as best as possible.
-Load it into an oral syringe and inject. if it's finely powdered the plant material should go in with it.
That's really all there is to it. With any rectal dosing of drugs, you just need to make sure that the active chemicals will be able to be absorbed by your rectal membranes. The best way to do this is to creater as much surface area as possible (grinding), and dissolve the actives in liquid.
), but sublingual worked really well to eliminate the negatives and made me a new psychedelic friend.As I mentioned, I haven't used rectal admin for HBWR, but I have for many other substances, so if I were to try it, here's what I'd do:
-Finely grind the seeds (VERY carefully if using something that produces heat like a coffee grinder)
-Dissolve them in DISTILLED water, like 5-10mL, whatever you want to use to inject. Let it soak for a while to extract the actives as best as possible.
-Load it into an oral syringe and inject. if it's finely powdered the plant material should go in with it.
That's really all there is to it. With any rectal dosing of drugs, you just need to make sure that the active chemicals will be able to be absorbed by your rectal membranes. The best way to do this is to creater as much surface area as possible (grinding), and dissolve the actives in liquid.
tonight i ate 375 Heavenly Blues and besides some diherrea, i felt nothing.
the seeds were brown and ive read that the black ones are the most potent and my last batch of heavenly blues were black.
from what i understand 375 is quite a high dose and i ate them on an empty stomach. when i made a cold water extract back in the summer, i got nauseas but i cant decide what is better...that or getting the shits. what should i dose for my next attempt?
the seeds were brown and ive read that the black ones are the most potent and my last batch of heavenly blues were black.
from what i understand 375 is quite a high dose and i ate them on an empty stomach. when i made a cold water extract back in the summer, i got nauseas but i cant decide what is better...that or getting the shits. what should i dose for my next attempt?
Xorkoth
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Did you chew the seeds up finely? If you just swallowed them, they wouyld be hard to digest.
i chewed up the seeds to a pulp before swallowing them xork, the only effects i noticed over the whole night was i was unable to sleep right away and i had to toss and turn in my bed for an hour or so before i could.
would there be tolerance issues trying MG's again tomorrow even if they didnt work? i may step up the dose to 800 seeds because 375 was nearly ineffective
would there be tolerance issues trying MG's again tomorrow even if they didnt work? i may step up the dose to 800 seeds because 375 was nearly ineffective
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Morning Glory seeds!!!!
I always use the cold water extraction method with seeds from a very thurstworthy supplier.
I mix 350 seeds in a blender and I only use the white powder that sticks to the glass of the blender. I put this in 15cl of water, in the fridge and then drink it.No nausea, no cramps. After two hours I become the most stoned I'll ever be
I like the way MGS let's you comprehend the relation between some taughts and events. I also like the schematic view in my head. It is like I can order my toughts and visualise them.
I also noticed that I think in terms of 'concepts', rather then people, names, objects... very akward.
Also food tastes great and looks very very very yammy
MG has somthing like MDMA to me, I love everybody I understand them and I want to be with thim. Natural exctasy if you ask me!
Only negative aspect is the speedy feeling before I start to trip, I'm like constantly running around and thinking 'What was I doing, were am I going' but this subsides very fast.
And for all of you people having a hard time on MG, try weed! It is like a natural supercharger!!!
Morning Glory seeds!!!!I always use the cold water extraction method with seeds from a very thurstworthy supplier.
I mix 350 seeds in a blender and I only use the white powder that sticks to the glass of the blender. I put this in 15cl of water, in the fridge and then drink it.No nausea, no cramps. After two hours I become the most stoned I'll ever be
I like the way MGS let's you comprehend the relation between some taughts and events. I also like the schematic view in my head. It is like I can order my toughts and visualise them.
I also noticed that I think in terms of 'concepts', rather then people, names, objects... very akward.
Also food tastes great and looks very very very yammy
MG has somthing like MDMA to me, I love everybody I understand them and I want to be with thim. Natural exctasy if you ask me!
Only negative aspect is the speedy feeling before I start to trip, I'm like constantly running around and thinking 'What was I doing, were am I going' but this subsides very fast.
And for all of you people having a hard time on MG, try weed! It is like a natural supercharger!!!
hey people.
I got my seeds yesterday and thought hey fuck it, long weekend, why not! so i grabbed like 10 of em, cracked em, removed the husk, moved this wierd layer of orange shit from the ouside of the seed, crushed em up/cut em up pretty good and ate them. hour later i was feeling really sleeping, 2 hrs later even more so, then i fell asleep and woke up like, 4-5 hrs since i had taken them, no visuals, no different feeling, just REALLY tired(and no muscle, no stomach or any other cramps/pains) so i just went back to sleep.
So yeah... that was lame. there not really hairy or rough, there kind of smooth and dark, much so like these:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/show_image.php?i=hbw/argyreia_nervosa_seeds1.jpg
so yeah, tonight i was gonna dehusk about 20 of em, crush em up reallllllly fine, mix em into a paste with water, and rub em all over my gums after holding some fresh pineapple in my mouth and against my gums for like 20-30 mins and brushing my gums roughly with my toothbrush.
Btw: i asked someone last night via pm if the orangey stuff on the outside of the seeds are all good, he rekond they were, thought i might just double check...am i meant to only be concerned about taking off the husk, nothing else? oh and i assume the seeds are meant to bre grey-ish black-ish sorta... kinda like.. sunflower seeds..?(im pretty sure thats what sunflower seeds look like, i havnt seen em in a while)
I got my seeds yesterday and thought hey fuck it, long weekend, why not! so i grabbed like 10 of em, cracked em, removed the husk, moved this wierd layer of orange shit from the ouside of the seed, crushed em up/cut em up pretty good and ate them. hour later i was feeling really sleeping, 2 hrs later even more so, then i fell asleep and woke up like, 4-5 hrs since i had taken them, no visuals, no different feeling, just REALLY tired(and no muscle, no stomach or any other cramps/pains) so i just went back to sleep.
So yeah... that was lame. there not really hairy or rough, there kind of smooth and dark, much so like these:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/show_image.php?i=hbw/argyreia_nervosa_seeds1.jpg
so yeah, tonight i was gonna dehusk about 20 of em, crush em up reallllllly fine, mix em into a paste with water, and rub em all over my gums after holding some fresh pineapple in my mouth and against my gums for like 20-30 mins and brushing my gums roughly with my toothbrush.
Btw: i asked someone last night via pm if the orangey stuff on the outside of the seeds are all good, he rekond they were, thought i might just double check...am i meant to only be concerned about taking off the husk, nothing else? oh and i assume the seeds are meant to bre grey-ish black-ish sorta... kinda like.. sunflower seeds..?(im pretty sure thats what sunflower seeds look like, i havnt seen em in a while)
Morninggloryseed
Bluelight Crew
Such nice things you say about me.
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I always use the cold water extraction method with seeds from a very thurstworthy supplier.
I mix 350 seeds in a blender and I only use the white powder that sticks to the glass of the blender. I put this in 15cl of water, in the fridge and then drink it.No nausea, no cramps. After two hours I become the most stoned I'll ever be
I like the way MGS let's you comprehend the relation between some taughts and events. I also like the schematic view in my head. It is like I can order my toughts and visualise them.
I also noticed that I think in terms of 'concepts', rather then people, names, objects... very akward.
Also food tastes great and looks very very very yammy
MG has somthing like MDMA to me, I love everybody I understand them and I want to be with thim. Natural exctasy if you ask me!
Only negative aspect is the speedy feeling before I start to trip, I'm like constantly running around and thinking 'What was I doing, were am I going' but this subsides very fast.
And for all of you people having a hard time on MG, try weed! It is like a natural supercharger!!!
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