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The Big and Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread (Archive start - 4-14-2008)

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Took me about 3 tries of 9g MG to finally get a good batch that accuatly made me trip. I just layed in my bed and I had an ego death, very intense mental trip.. It was kind of hard to get up the next day and continue living my life like I usually do. I have no desire to try these again.
 
HBW sublingual

so over the years i tried on various occasions to sublingual HBW seeds, to no avail. but i have foudn that if i powderize the seeds in a coffee mill and swallow them they kick in much faster, and nausea was tolerable, but muscle cramps were not. last trip was a about a week ago, a half ounce of amanitas combined with 14 woodrose seeds, ground and swallowed. fantastic trip. god too amazing to go into now, but anyhow, the seeds were still too toxic for my liking. this morning i took ten seeds, powderdized them, and held them in my mouth for 20 minutes with a small taste of cabernet sauv...anyhow, i am wondering why i have never been able to acheieve effects through this rout? im hoping it works this time, but who knows, ill have to report back. anyone else have troubles getting ANY effects the sublingual rout?
 
I have tried sublingual and rectal. Neither worked very well. The only way I have got the desired effects is by eating them. I use HBWR seeds. My best trips have been with HBWR seeds, but they also have the worst side effects. Nausea is certain, and usually I end up with diarrhea after that. With less than 10 seeds, I usually won't vomit. I had a +4 from just eight seeds. Sometimes the nausea and stomach cramps last through the whole trip and completely ruins it.

I have tried dramamine and ginger extract to help with the nausea, but it did not work very well. They may have helped some.
 
well i am definatly feeling *something* off this ten seed sublingual dose, but i can feel it, i know its going to be nowhere near my 14 seed injested trip the other day. and yeah, i have had a ++++ experience off 14 seeds ground and swallowed several years ago. it was more powerful and more visual than ANY acid i have ever eaten. my first morning glory trip (ten packs) was a ++++ experience as well.
 
klowns said:
well i am definatly feeling *something* off this ten seed sublingual dose, but i can feel it, i know its going to be nowhere near my 14 seed injested trip the other day.

So in other words, you just tripped "the other day," and now you're trying to trip again? Ever hear of tolerance? ;)
 
Baby Woodrose Seeds (LSA) questions.

Last night i grinded and drank about 25 soaked baby woodrose seeds in a small bottle of water. I got the water to a dark consistency and i ate all of the seeds when I was done.

I first felt a small high but then it started to wear off and we smoked in order to "intensify" it. I'm not sure if I felt any trip whatsoever. I was highly disipointed and I feel that it was a waste of time.

How many do you recomend that I should take next time in order to have a decent trip?

25 isnt working.

Any tips?

Thanks..
 
^^forget these seeds and try to buy real hbw from hawaii or madagascar, and don't take 25
 
Fuckin 'ell I had an absolutely terrible strong trip on 5 HBWs 3 years ago but then I got mine from an ethno supplier.
 
WaseFraKa said:
^^forget these seeds and try to buy real hbw from hawaii or madagascar, and don't take 25

Well we already purchased the seeds and we have a good bit left. I am going to make the best out of the situation and get some sort of satisfaction from them.

Back to my question, how many should I mix in with my water?
 
Erowid has dosing information.

I need about 6 seeds for a +3. 8-12 for a strong trip and 16 is about the maximum I would use. Start low, the side effects can be very unpleasant.

I had a +4 with 8 seeds + poppies and neurontin. It was so overwhelming and beautiful that I was crying, not out of sadness but joy, overhwelming emotion, and thought.


If you have the bunk seeds, just forget it. They will not work, but you will get some of the side effects if they are the same as the ones I had.
 
Bunk seeds?

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So you think I am wasting my time and stomach on these? We took way more then 8 and we didn't feel much.
 
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Sugar Magnolia said:
Bunk seeds?

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So you think I am wasting my time and stomach on these? We took way more then 8 and we didn't feel much.

I got no significant effects from 30. I thought I felt something, but it could have been placebo. I did get some slight stomach cramps and diarrhea, so I would not subject myself to it again.

When you buy the seeds, make sure they have some of the fuzzy layer on them. Mine were light brown and did not have that layer. They were also a little rounder than the good ones. They were supposed to be Hawaiian strain, but obviously were not.
 
i recently got 25 seeds from an online source and they look different than the ones i usually get. i suspect i got ripped off.
 
If they dont have an easily removed, loose layer of fur on them, they are probably not going to do much.

Also, they should be a rich brown, not dark and shiny as some vendors like to pass off as the real thing. There is only 1 consistent supplier, but I cant list it.
 
Tryptamine*Dreamer said:
I got no significant effects from 30. I thought I felt something, but it could have been placebo. I did get some slight stomach cramps and diarrhea, so I would not subject myself to it again.

When you buy the seeds, make sure they have some of the fuzzy layer on them. Mine were light brown and did not have that layer. They were also a little rounder than the good ones. They were supposed to be Hawaiian strain, but obviously were not.
Mine were not fuzzy at all.

I might try 30, hopefully my stomach holds better than yours.
 
if you ate 30 hbwr seeds and they were the real ones, you would be out of this world. i have some real ones right now, they are a little fuzzy and dark brown. you got jacked
 
I guess so.
*I don't know if this is against the rules or not but if you have a link to a reliable source please PM me it.*

I took advantage of my coffee grinder today and grounded up 23 in one bag and 30 in another. I will take the 23 first and see if I feel anything. If not, I am not going to waste my time and stomach on the 30. I knew the numbers seemed off when my friend gave me them. The website sounded a bit shady but I felt something the first time.

We have about 300 left :-(
 
There are places that sell baby woodrose seeds that are a indian or african variety and they have far far far less actives in them. It sounds like thats what you have been sold, you want to be certain they are the Hawaiian variety & as other people have said, they should have a brown fuzzy coating.

Another thing to think about is the fact lsa seeds lose potency depending on their age & the conditions they have been stored in. Morning glory seeds seem to retain their potency for much longer periods than HBW in my experience.
 
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