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The Big and Dandy DMT Thread

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samadhi_smiles said:
And, as MorningGlorySeed has stressed many a time just because you find anal stimulation pleasing, it does not mean you are gay. In fact, males are hardwired (the p-spot) to find stimulation of the anus very arousing/erotic.

I would say that if you are against a finger or tongue in the butt, then you must not have tried it yet because once you do there's no going back!!! =D
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did youknow your penis actualy extends into your anus?


next time you get an errection feel it out starting at the taint.


BTW, rectal admin works alot better if you are errect
 
A few more trials with DMT last night:

A friend came over and was interested in trying it since I'd told him about my one experience with IM. It's posted in this thread already ... 40 mg IM in the deltoid. It was suggested that I try the thigh as an injection site to lengthen the experience. Also, note that the dosages are for DMT freebase, but the solution was actually DMT citrate.

50 mg DMT, IM, thigh
I loaded 50 mg (using sterile technique), swabbed the injection site with an alcohol prep pad, and injected the viscous DMT citrate into his thigh. He said the burn was fairly significant, come-up took about 4-5 minutes (much longer than my deltoid IM injection). Peak at about 6-8 minutes and steady decline ... not quite baseline after 30 min.

15 mg DMT, IV
I decided I needed to try it as well, but IV instead, just to break into new territory. I actually did this as he was getting the first effects and beat him to the peak! After injecting 15 mg, the alerts were instantaneous. I made my way to the couch just in time to collapse and let the DMT world take over. It was surprisingly intense ... room was vibrating, I could see my feet out in front of me, but as far as I was concerned they weren't mine. Thoughts raced and a strong sense of love and euphoria seemed to emanate from within. Peak was reached in 1 min (+++) and I was back to a + after about 8 minutes, and back to baseline at about 20-30 min. There was absolutely no burn and the experience felt very clean overall. I found it somewhat similar to my IM dose, except the set and setting were much different. The 15 mg IV was much more intense than 40 mg IM, however.

15 mg DMT, IV
My friend decided to try IV since he wasn't terribly impressed with 50 mg IM. Same dose, I let him inject. We later found out that he'd missed at least a portion of the dose because he had a big histamine reaction around it right by the vein. He must have gotten most of it though because he was peaking in about 1-2 min. He said it was worlds better than the IM dose ... and "it felt like a different drug." So 15 mg IV (despite partially missed injection) was more intense than 50 mg IM.

22 mg DMT IV
After he got back to baseline, I offered to let him try again if he wanted. He asked for a small amount more this time (at this point we didn't know about the missed portion of the first dose). I gave him 22 mg, thinking about the fact that Shulgin's range went up to 30 mg and Strassman's was similar. I think Shulgin's reports are with DMT HCl so his 30 mg report is equal to about 25 mg of freebase. Strassman's are with DMT fumarate so his highest level, which is somewhere around 30 mg DMT fumarate, is equal to about 23 mg fb.

Moving on ... about 30 sec after I administered the injection, he turned to me and said, "is there anything I can do to make this stop?!!" 8o I told him no, you just gotta ride it out. Let your mind take you and it will be over soon. Conclusion: 22 mg is an incredibly intense dose! If I'd noticed the first botched injection I wouldn't have given him so much. I put on a song called "Banshee Beat" by Animal Collective. Just as it ended (about T+0:06), he sat up and said, "Okay, I'm back." I asked him if he met any elves, to which he replied no. The closest thing I've seen to entities is described in detail in my MET + 2C-T-21 report. =D I didn't close my eyes for much of the trip this time, and maybe 15 mg wasn't quite enough to get me there. Anyway, according to my test subject ;) , 22 mg felt like "a rollercoaster going too fast" or like "being strapped to a rocket." Once he started the descent he said he could finally enjoy the experience. He said he was glad that he'd had the experience, but didn't know if he'd ever repeat it at that dose.

Both of us agreed, DMT is psychedelic cotton candy. It's incredible stuff, but lacks all the true benefits of the longer acting psychedelics. The racing thoughts makes the experience too disorienting to gain much from it. It is instant euphoria, and an amazing visual display, but I don't find it to be useful in the way that mushrooms, 2C-E, or LSD are.

=D =D =D
 
Dondante, you're the man! :)

Thanks for posting this info!!!

16mg of DMT freebase (vaporized) - instant reset button after coming down from methylone/2CD combo (this comedown is VERY pleasant at least at the dosage levels I was working with).
 
Dondante said:
Both of us agreed, DMT is psychedelic cotton candy. It's incredible stuff, but lacks all the true benefits of the longer acting psychedelics.
=D =D =D
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Have you combined DMT with an MAOi? And if you have, is it the entire DMT experience that you're referring to as lacking? I agree that smoking DMT is almost a waste of such a beautiful compound. I found this compound in combination with an MAOi to be so rich and beneficial that more than a year after an intense experience I am still integrating aspects of the voyage.

But maybe that's just me and my nervous system.:)
 
We don't all agree that smoked DMT is almost a waste of material. Its definitely changed my life.

Oral DMT is out of this world transformative.
 
No, I haven't tried DMT + MAOI ... and I do have high expectations. I assume it's a different beast altogether. The psychedelic cotton candy comment refers to DMT only. And that doesn't imply that DMT can't blow your mind to pieces, I'm just saying that, for me, vaporized/injected DMT is rather innocuous when it comes to evoking a state of enlightenment. I even consider DMT + long-acting psychedelic also to be more useful than unaided DMT, because you drop back into a psychedelic state that allows more analytical depth. Not to mention, the experience itself can be quite drastically changed.

Oh, and one more thing ... the peak of 15 mg IV was roughly equivalent to 50-60 mg vaporized DMT.
 
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I did not mean to slander the good name of solo DMT. Vaporized DMT has its place (and I by no means think that my preferences apply to other people). I do however, in my person opinion, reached through experiential means, find vaporized DMT to be a coin operated plastic grocery isle horse, as compared to oral DMT with an MAOi, which is akin to a wind wild undomesticated four legged and maned god; one that may let you get on, but not let you break it.

I guess one appeared more recreational than the other; yet again, that may be a particular response by my nervous system.

It would be sweel to locate a psychedelic plant compound that produced the same subjective experience in all people, making it safe to theorize that the metabolization of the mystery compound evoked an entity that borrowed the nervous system of the end user. (Edit. That make no sense, did it?)
 
I broke through for the first time yesterday, and I am still speechless! a new way to say hooray indeed!
 
Dondante said:
No, I haven't tried DMT + MAOI ... and I do have high expectations. I assume it's a different beast altogether. The psychedelic cotton candy comment refers to DMT only. And that doesn't imply that DMT can't blow your mind to pieces, I'm just saying that, for me, vaporized/injected DMT is rather innocuous when it comes to evoking a state of enlightenment. I even consider DMT + long-acting psychedelic also to be more useful than unaided DMT, because you drop back into a psychedelic state that allows more analytical depth. Not to mention, the experience itself can be quite drastically changed.

Oh, and one more thing ... the peak of 15 mg IV was roughly equivalent to 50-60 mg vaporized DMT.
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I didn’t expect IV DMT to be so much more efficient v. the smoking route. Good to know. I’ve never IV’d anything but this sounds like the way to go, especially considering that it doesn’t seem to be that much shorter in duration than IM.

I’ve had a recent overpowering IM DMT experience at 50mg that involved syrian rue and small portions of other psychedelics that I’ve mixed with DMT and syrian rue (but not all with both) in the past without incident. I even used 25mg and waited 8 minutes (plenty of time with IM) to see how strongly it would affect me--not much--before finishing the remaining 25. The DMT trip lasted an hour and a half and involved limp-limbed, involuntary body contortions (including grinding my face into the bathroom floor), a complete shattering of proprioception that made purposeful movement nearly impossible, vomit, and an unrelenting torrent of tears and snot I assume was some kind of histemic reaction to the DMT (I’ve gotten this before but never at that level). DMT with a MAOI: a different animal indeed.
 
I smoked a little of this one again last night.

I weighed out 30mg, and there was probably ~3-4mg left over from the last attempt. I was kind of apprehensive about smoking it again, but I really thought it was time.. So anyway, I convince myself to smoke it again, and start to, but can't get myself to go back for the last hit.

It was an interesting experience, thats for sure. I closed my eyes, and saw the same exact room. However, empty where there was people (my friends) expect for these 4 figures, that start coming up and crowding me, but I was never able to see their head, but a spiraling fractal universe in their bodies. When I try to look up, the rooms perspective shifted, and I was looking at them the same exact way still! Like I could turn my head 90 degrees to any direction, and was still seeing the room the same way I saw it as I took the last couple hits of DMT.

That was the last of it, so now I have to move on to 5-Meo-DMT and see where that one can take me.
 
psood0nym said:
I didn’t expect IV DMT to be so much more efficient v. the smoking route. Good to know. I’ve never IV’d anything but this sounds like the way to go, especially considering that it doesn’t seem to be that much shorter in duration than IM.
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IV DMT was quite interesting, but if it sounds like I'm promoting IV drug use, well, I'm not. I actually had nightmares last night afterwards about IVing DMT in which I found myself going into septic shock instead of DMT hyperspace ... actually there was something about me losing an eye too, but not sure how that tied in! 8o Maybe it's my micro/infectious disease course, but either way, there are significant risks to IV drug use that one must be extremely careful about.

Just to give a fun example, bacterial endocarditis can be caused by introducing bacteria into the bloodstream, which can adhere your heart valves and form dense antibiotic-resistant vegetation. If you're not careful, there's risk for quite a few bacterial infections, many of which are associated with significant mortality.

I never re-use (or share!) a needle. I always use iodine or an alcohol pad to prep the injection site, and I always sterilize the drug prior to use with a micron filter. Don't think about IVing anything if you can't follow these simple precautions. In the name of harm reduction, you have my 2 cents. ;)
 
Anyone tried cleaning extracted dmt with activated charcoal? I saw foafs posts at mycotopia and was wondering what others have experienced with this method of cleaning.
 
I tried some form of DMT today. It was a herb mix which seems to have a high concentration of DMT in it. I didn't break through but after 1 bowl of it(smoked through bong with direct flame) I got a huge rush not unlike that of nitrous then my hearing dimmed a bit and I started seeing fractals in everything including the hair on my arms. Anything 2D also appeared to have a lot more depth and paintings looked very 3D. Whenever I shut my eyes I saw beautiful fractals and shapes in my vision. Are these sort of effects achievable just from smoking 1 bowl of plant material or could it have some how had DMT extract soaked into it like fortified salvia leaves?
 
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