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The Big and Dandy DMT Thread

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samadhi_smiles said:
Whats shulgin's deal not dosing some of these chems rectally?
Hmm. Well let me take a couple of guesses first most people who aren’t gay don’t like to stick things in their but. Second most people who use psychedelics consider them sacred and most non-gay people don’t like to stick things that are sacred to them in a hole that is full of shit. I don’t know Shulgin personally but those would be my first two guesses.
 
First off to the poster above STFU.

Ok I have been smokign my 5meo-DMT with little to no real profound effects. Exept shortness of breat and time slowing and mild visual perception changes and alot of breathing patterns and color change. WHY HAVEN'T I broke through into the real deal. I have used alumnium foil,glass pipe,and light bulb. I have a ACCULAB vic-123. Which will be for sale soon on ebay!! and I measured out 15 mg and lightly toasted it and nothing but a mild visual change and shifting time and huge erotic sensations! Am I not getting the whole DMT thing but maybe I am not getting the entire hit. I want to experience pure terror. Liek I did with my 27 mg of 2cb-fly Whos looking over my shoulder......:p
 
luckytaak said:
Hmm. Well let me take a couple of guesses first most people who aren’t gay don’t like to stick things in their but. Second most people who use psychedelics consider them sacred and most non-gay people don’t like to stick things that are sacred to them in a hole that is full of shit. I don’t know Shulgin personally but those would be my first two guesses.

Anal absorption is meant to be the most efficient way to take drugs aside from I.V. I don't think it's a homsexual thing, more like a cost-efficient thing. I haven't done it but plan to soon (mdma). So :p.

And Mr. Smiles, by "fake" I mean that objects in my room, and my room itself..appeared to be platic, surreal. Like true reality is hiding behind my perceptions. I've yet to try it outside, would like to though!
 
luckytaak said:
Hmm. Well let me take a couple of guesses first most people who aren’t gay don’t like to stick things in their but. Second most people who use psychedelics consider them sacred and most non-gay people don’t like to stick things that are sacred to them in a hole that is full of shit. I don’t know Shulgin personally but those would be my first two guesses.

Rrrrrreally?

Well, I and others have found that taking psychedelics (for me phenethylamines in particular) alters the subjective effects, which include: taking time off the comeup which can be a period of anxiety/tension for some, decreasing nausea and other peripheral effects, and shortening the entire trip's duration which can be a benefit for longlasters, decreasing amount of material needed to reach the same intensity (often half as much material is needed as oral, sometimes as much as a third of an oral dosage can be used).

And, its really fun to stick a baby syringe (the kind w/o the needle of couse) up your butt and squirt some chemical up there (it tickles sometimes).

Peace and love!
 
Oh, and if the psychedelic experience has taught me anything, its taught me to look objectively at my own thoughts and judgements and perceive them as such; constructions of the mind that could easily be manipulated to have a drastically different profile.

It is the case that if our society traditionally administered medicines rectally and I, for some reason, used them orally, we might be in reverse positions and you would be making fun of me for taking psychedelics orally (perhaps saying I have a 'baby fetish' or something like that).

Peace!
 
sensitivity

Well maybe you should try to learn some sensitivity, a lot of people don’t like to hear about people sticking things up there but and it drives people away that might other wise enjoy these threads or contribute to them. You have a whole thread on rectal administration and you still troll all these threads in to rectal stuff, not everyone enjoys that, try to have a little sensitivity, not every find rectums attractive or fun to talk about and you are ruining these threads for those people. It is one world try to be a little considerate to you fellow human beings who share it with you. Peace, love and sensitivity.
 
^ That's the funniest thing I've read in ages!!! =D =D =D

We'll have to dream up some kind of 'Anus Alert' to stick on future postings so you won't be offended!!! 8(
 
For all the people in the world that are sensitive when I bring up discussion of rectal administration, I am deeply sorry for the emotional turmoil I have put you through.

I would politefully suggest seeing a professional therapist as it seems (to my untrained eye) that there is something deeper going on there than just a superficial aversion to rectums.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
Oh, and if the psychedelic experience has taught me anything, its taught me to look objectively at my own thoughts and judgements and perceive them as such; constructions of the mind that could easily be manipulated to have a drastically different profile.

It is the case that if our society traditionally administered medicines rectally and I, for some reason, used them orally, we might be in reverse positions and you would be making fun of me for taking psychedelics orally (perhaps saying I have a 'baby fetish' or something like that).

Peace!

*slow clap* :)
 
I’m not homophobic like you guys think I am and I am not against peoples sexual preferences. I have a lot of friends that are gay and they are good people I would say better then average people, I think this kind of rectum trolling behavior gives the gay community a bad name a lot of people aren’t as open minded and will start to think that all gay people just troll around and talk about putting things in their ass all day long. It doesn’t bother me when people say I going to take this drug rectaly it just bothers me when people troll 2 pages of a thread about cleaning feces out of their rectum and sticking things in their ass. I just don’t enjoy reading about people playing with their assholes, just like I don’t enjoy watching people pick up dog shit or change a diaper at a nursing home it seems like a lot of people don’t that’s why they have bathroom stalls and people say excuse me while I use the bathroom instead of saying I’m going to take a shit and wipe my ass. But no I’m not homophobic yes I don’t like reading about feces and assholes, and yes I think samadi is a rectum troll. I just wanted to say sorry to anyone I offended and let you guys know that I am not against gay people. Sorry to get so far away from the subject of DMT.
 
I agree with you luckytaak, I may have gotten a little out of control with talking about rectal administration. I'm sorry if I offended you and will try to stay more on-topic in the future (and generally try to keep discussion of rectal administration to a minimum). My apologies.

I would say though in the 2CT7 thread we have had some very good discussion of the merits of rectal administration (Dondante brought up some very good and thoughtful counterpoints replete with graphs and such).

I don't know if this is the right time or not to add this, but I just wanted to note that DMT freebase doesn't need to be dissolved in milk or anything for it to be active rectally. I just finished plugged 22mg of it and it is quite active just tossed in a gel cap and plugged (+2 peak for 20 mins).
 
Fishface said:
^ That's the funniest thing I've read in ages!!! =D =D =D

We'll have to dream up some kind of 'Anus Alert' to stick on future postings so you won't be offended!!! 8(

I propose a special version of the NSFW tag that we can use specifically to discuss
NSFW:
anuses.


The text could be something like "BUNGHOLE ALERT!"
 
Sorry but I'm too stupid to keep my mouth shut.

I very much appreciate honest and open drug discussion and I feel it is absolutely essential that practices of drug administration be discussed without sensitivity if this board is to maintain it's aim of HARM REDUCTION.

If some folks are pushed away from contributing to a thread as a result of their sensitivities , so be it, at least those who may be risking their own and others health and welfare will have access to uncensored and accurate information.

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Thanks also to samadhi_smiles for the info about rectal admin of DMT , I was particularly curious about that . Also thanks for his mention that Infected Mushroom will be right here in my hometown, Atlanta, next month;) =D .
 
luckytaak said:
above posts

Rectal administration is a common method of dosing these drugs if you don't want to read about it then don't.But bitching at people for posting about it is just childish.
 
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luckytaak said:
Well maybe you should try to learn some sensitivity, a lot of people don’t like to hear about people sticking things up there but and it drives people away that might other wise enjoy these threads or contribute to them. You have a whole thread on rectal administration and you still troll all these threads in to rectal stuff, not everyone enjoys that, try to have a little sensitivity, not every find rectums attractive or fun to talk about and you are ruining these threads for those people. It is one world try to be a little considerate to you fellow human beings who share it with you. Peace, love and sensitivity.

Wow, you really can't expect people to edit themselves on your behalf. If you're sensitive enough to be harmed by the mention of anal administration of chemicals, then the internet is NOT the place for you.

It's fucked up, bro.
 
Luckytaak, I appreciate your honest and civil explanation. However, it does seem to me that you have some sort of deep discomfort with things anus-related. Why should it bother you to read someone's report about the way they took a drug? Why should that give the gay community a bad name? I very much doubt that most people would read through this and end up thinking "Oh man, all those damn gay people! All they do is shove drugs in their ass and tell everyone about it!". Not to mention, why do you seem to assume that the people discussing rectal administration are gay? It's not fun, it just works a lot better for some things, and hence the small price to pay (discomfort) is outweighed by the benefits.

The thing is, it's a valid form of administration. Pharmaceutical companies make suppositories because rectal administration is way that doctors use for certain things and which some people are required to do daily for various conditions. May I suggest that you consider the possibility that the discomfort you obviously feel over the thought of it is brought on by your being brought up in a society begun on puritan ideals, which has resulted (as long as you're an American anyway - which I'm pretty sure you are) in our society having this strange taboo regarding sexuality/body parts/etc. My point is that feeling uncomfortable at the mere discussion of it, not to mention actually expecting everyone to censor themselves for you and feeling like you're right in asking that, is the result a neurotic thought process in your mind put there by the way you were raised, and unless you can honestly live your life in such a way as to accomodate everyone's neurotic desires about any little thing they are repulsed by, well, you should be able to realize that it's a silly fear/disgust/repulsion. That's beyond fine if you don't want to use rectal administration. Hell, it's not comfortable, I can understand. But how can you request that everyone stop talking about it and make some wild assertions as to its reflection on the gay community with a straight face? I'm repulsed by only a few things, and those are needless violence and cruelty, oppression, and eyeballs. So I'd like to ask that you please keep ANY and ALL discussion of eyeballs and touching eyeballs, such as putting in eyedrops and contacts, out of the forums. It reflects badly on the optometry field, and we need to keep Bluelight image neutral!

;)

Sounds silly, yes. But some people ARE disgusted by eyeballs and discussion thereof (like my friend =D). But more importantly, I hope you can realize that the rectal thing is primarily a societal thing imprinted on you for no good reason. Although of course we are all affected strongly by our cultures in many, many ways, once you realize you've been behaving in some way that is illogical and neurotic (being so disgusted with the concept of rectal administration - not "playing with your asshole" by the way - that you expect that everyone else should stop discussing that drug taking method), well, it would be just plain silly to keep acting that way. It's just your ass. it has no connection whatsoever to homosexuality, except that homosexuals use it sexually in many cases. Correlation does not equal causation.
 
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And, as MorningGlorySeed has stressed many a time just because you find anal stimulation pleasing, it does not mean you are gay. In fact, males are hardwired (the p-spot) to find stimulation of the anus very arousing/erotic.

I would say that if you are against a finger or tongue in the butt, then you must not have tried it yet because once you do there's no going back!!! =D
 
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