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The Big and Dandy DMT Thread

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It's tough for me to make a direct comparison because of the differing lengths of action and my lack of experience at this point. My initial trial with 40 mg DMT citrate (actually 40 mg DMT freebase) seemed to be roughly equivalent to 30 mg smoked, but each phase (come-up, plateau, and back to baseline) was about twice as long. This trial was performed at a Modest Mouse concert right as the show kicked off. As I made my way back up through the crowd it was kicking in pretty hard. The effects were building significantly in under 2 min and the plateau lasted somewhere around 5-10 min. I was close to baseline after about 20-30 min and whaddya know, my lungs felt great! They don't take kindly to harsh chemical vapors. The show was amazing as well ... bathed in a DMT afterglow! =D

From Tihkal DMT entry:

(with 20 mg, intramuscularly) "I began to see patterns on the wall that were continuously moving. They were transparent, and were not colored. After a short period these patterns became the heads of animals, a fox, a snake, a dragon. Then kaleidoscopic images appeared to me in my inner eye, fantastically beautiful and colored."

(with 30 mg, intramuscularly) "There was eye dilation and, subjectively, some perception disturbances."

(with 50 mg, intramuscularly) "I feel strange, everything is blurry. I want my mother, I am afraid of fainting, I can't breathe."

(with 60 mg, intramuscularly) "I don't like this feeling -- I am not myself. I saw such strange dreams a while ago. Strange creatures, dwarfs or something; they were black and moved about. Now I feel as if I am not alive. My left hand is numb. As if my heart would not beat, as if I had no body, no nothing. All I feel are my left hand and stomach. I don't like to be without thoughts."

(with 75 mg, intramuscularly) "The third or fourth minute after the injection vegetative symptoms appeared, such as tingling sensation, trembling, slight nausea, mydriasis, elevation of the blood pressure and increase of the pulse rate. At the same time, eidetic phenomena, optical illusions, pseudohallucinations, and later real hallucinations, appeared. The hallucinations consisted of moving, brilliantly colored oriental motifs, and later I saw wonderful scenes altering very rapidly. The faces of people seemed to be masks. My emotional state was elevated sometimes up to euphoria. At the highest point I had compulsive athetoid movements in my left hand. My consciousness was completely filled by hallucinations, and my attention was firmly bound to them; therefore I could not give an account of the events happening to me. After 3/4 to 1 hour the symptoms disappeared, and I was able to describe what had happened.

(with 80 mg, intramuscularly) "My perceptual distortions were visual in nature and with my eyes closed I could see colored patterns, primarily geometrical patterns moving very fast, having sometimes very deep emotional content and connotation. My blood pressure went up and my pupils were dilated."
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Btw Psood, what do you mean by intraparietal injection? Directly into the parietal lobe? 8o 8o
 
samadhi_smiles said:
(I remember my oral DMT trip was centered partially around horse (it was in a horse pasture) - nested paranthesis what a dork!).
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hahaha, you should start writing in LISP
 
I want to know if there's 'plateaus' that are reached for DMT.

I want to know what the dosage is for smoking and orally correllate to each 'plateau'.
Anyone have any idea how much for each?
 
I haven't ever seen anything written out about "plateaus" in the way that dxm/ket/salvia have been.

Search for "breakthroughs" at about 50mgs pure.
 
Dondante said:
Btw Psood, what do you mean by intraparietal injection? Directly into the parietal lobe? 8o 8o
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I was reading a text on brain damage before that post and my head was full of jumbled jargon . I meant to say intraepidermal and it came out "intraparietal"; but really it makes more sense to say subcutaneous so it was all just stupid. I've edited it. No one go injecting DMT directly into your brain! Or if you do at least write a trip report afterwards if you still retain that ability.
 
What would some of you more experienced heads reccomend for a first time dose? I've smoked DMT-plant matter before and just gotten intricate visuals, nothing too overwhelming though. I want to break through, and am thinking about 20-30mg smoked?
 
Depending on your sensitivity 20-30mg will probably not be enough for a full 'breakthrough' but you can definitely have a very profound experience on that amount. You will defnitely see visuals!

I started by smoking little hits (like 10mg) and then waiting a couple hours then smoking another slightly bigger hit (15), then stepping it up from there. I finally broke through for the first time on around 42mg (it was my fourth trip that night).

I'm going to experiment soon with 5-MeO-DMT as an adjunct to the DMT trip. I believe I can breakthrough FULLY on 6mg of 5-MeO-DMT and 25mg of DMT.

peace and love
 
oh I'll also be using a 55mg rectal dose of bk-MDMA as a springboard! I will try to immerse myself in the Love that permeates reality, sitting in the sunshine next to my favorite tree and let myself go, fully, as I exhale the 5-MeO-DMT and DMT.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
oh I'll also be using a 55mg rectal dose of bk-MDMA as a springboard!
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So, have you mixed MDMA & DMT already?

I'm interested as I had very interesting results with MDMA & Salvia.
 
bk-MDMA (aka M1) and I have not personally mixed these but have it from a few different sources that the combo is fantastic.

I'm thinking about an even lower dose of Methylone than 55mg, since 103mg sent me into a fullblown +3 experience. So, I guess 45-55mg will suffice to project me into the Love and Warmth of reality without any sort of major comedownish period.
 
psycosynthesis said:
What would some of you more experienced heads reccomend for a first time dose? I've smoked DMT-plant matter before and just gotten intricate visuals, nothing too overwhelming though. I want to break through, and am thinking about 20-30mg smoked?
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Samadhi Smiles gives a good idea. There is no need to go full bore right off if you don't feel comfortable with it. Put a bunch in your pipe, and take small repeated drags, and get to know the substance for a while. Then when you are ready hit it real long and hard.

Tolerance does seem to build up though when smoking, so as he suggested, you might take breaks in between sessions, like 1-2 hours.

I've found talking exact dose with DMT kind of pointless, because there are too many factors of loss during smoking. There are just small hits, moderate hits and big hits. If you suck in enough vapor so that you see a huge vapor cloud upon exhaling, that will probably be the last thing you see for a few minutes. =D
 
I only need 30mgs to have a full break though when I lie on my back. I have smoked 45mgs sitting up and not broke though and never broke though sitting up. You guys that have problems breaking though should try laying on you backs in a quite place, might work. If not the 5-meo-dmt combo I’m sure will, I lay on my stomach with 5-meo-dmt just because it is so powerful and some people puke so I just do it to be safe so I will never choke on puke but I have never puked but its good to be safe. A 5-meo-dmt combo break though is different then a DMT, more intense, like a spiritual jump start.
 
samadhi,its been suggested to me to try mixing 5 meodmt and dmt in a 4:1 ratio,so ill probably be trying that same dose you are :) not sure when we are going to get up the balls to try it,but it should be in the next few weeks,maybe with mdma as a "springboard" like you say!
 
I'm going to experiment soon with 5-MeO-DMT as an adjunct to the DMT trip. I believe I can breakthrough FULLY on 6mg of 5-MeO-DMT and 25mg of DMT.
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i tried 5mg of 5meodmt+30mg of DMT last week....very good combo...much better than a high dose of either.
the 5meo added the power to the DMT, while the DMT added more colors to the 5meo.
both were complementary of each other
 
Fishface said:
So, have you mixed MDMA & DMT already?

I'm interested as I had very interesting results with MDMA & Salvia.
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I know it's way off topic in here, but could you private message me or post that trip report? I've been very curious about that combo. I quite enjoy the immeasurable depths of a salvia experience, but my instinctive fear can sometimes kick in. I would think that MDMA would alleviate that.
 
MDMA and DMT = rushing alot of body load
and yeah mixing 5me0DMT and DMT is good
i like to mix DMT extracts from several plants and rip them down at once. its like all the alkaloids combine to give u all the light
 
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