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The Big and Dandy DMT Thread

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Yeah I'm trying to prepare for a DMT experience. Trying to see if I want to wade in or dive in. I've heard so many mixed things about it that I'm glad to see some positive things being said about it. I just kind of had a night of reading horrific trip-reports last night so I was all sketched today. Looking for the best mimosa provider... Anyone offer up some advice in that area? PM me if you'd like to donate some thought, or post it here. Been checking eBay, keep re-reading the erowid guide entitled "QT's Extraction Method for Students." Thanks so much for any help. Any other really spelled out guides or alternative solutions would be great, but this guide seems really well put together.
 
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the lye unhooks the DMT hcl and turns it into the freebase. Then you extract it with the solvent and evap the solvent and you have DMT freebase. You probably should wash it once to get it purer if its yellow.
 
Drug Geek said:
If you don't mind I'd like to add to your question by asking the following:

If an extraction was obtained using lye from Mimosa hostilis, resulting in a yellowish white crystal, is this DMT HCL or DMT Freebase?

Also, if you can provide some more commentary Walked on the Moon, it would be appreciated; for example, how to you prepare the freebase for snorting, what duration results from the doses you are using, and what are the negative effects experienced from insufflation?

Thanks.
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duration from insufflation lasts from 45min-2hours. i do not know what the duration difference is caused by. negative effects are extreme extreme pain in the nose, possible vomiting (i have never experienced this), and you smell dmt for the next few days. i find that keeping my head forward or completely upside down after insufflation rids the drip of me
 
Thanks SS, it actually is beautifully clear white/clear crystal, I just thought if I said that it might confuse the issue, because most home extracted material I've seen is yellowish ... :D

I still can't believe you like the smell of DMT! I had a teacher back when I was in Grade 6, and she had a terrible problem with tooth decay. DMT brings me back to Grade 6 with shocking clarity ... 8(

Thanks for the info Walked! Sounds rough.
 
^^Weird! It smells like some sort of exotic incense to me. It smells really familiar somehow. The smell is very evocative for me. It makes my head spin.
 
Walked on Moon, you have me extremely curious about insufflating DMT now. So, 100mg would be a good dose then for a strong trip?

Again, does anybody know if theres a way to neutralize the freebase to make it less painful to snort (and perhaps more efficient at absorbing?)? Would the HCL absorb faster/better?

Please answer as my curiousity is piqued to an all time high!!!!! (I did not realize the peak could last over an hour!!!).
 
Anyone have any suggestions for easy techniques for washing small quantities of DMT?
 
twoci -- by "wash" do you want to remove dust from off the outside of crystals? Or do you really want to recrystalize it? This can refine off-colored DMT crystals themselves to much purer form. If the latter, then you want to dissolve the crystal in warm heptane or hexane (use Bestine brand) and then slowly bring the temperature down to freezing to re-precipitate the crystals. Search for a recrystalization tek to find the exact steps involved.
 
I've done about 10 or 15 low doses of DMT in the last couple weeks and its been GREAT! The last time I did it I was graced with a very pure and real contentment and peacefulness. I had the urge to become more familiar with a tree next to me (that I sit next to and drink my morning coffee everyday). I felt it breathing!

Anyways, I think DMT is telling me to reconnect more deeply with the natural world.

ps morning coffee + low dose DMT = miracle!
 
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Ive tried to 'darken' my trips with black metal and thoughts of sadness
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That's some brave shit. I' m not sure I'd like to go wherever it is that Emperor and Dimethyltryptamine would take me...
 
The material you end up with is hard to work with oily. I think the picrate salt (which is a form of hcl if I'm correct) is easier to work with. Or I believe you can convert it to citrate salt (with vinegar I think).

I don't know the steps behind that though, but you might be able to research something with those keywords.
 
I prefer no music, I find it distracting. I also must smoke it outdoors around trees, they are the answer I think, they are ALIVE!!!

Whats up with trees and DMT?
 
Whats up with trees and DMT?
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my thoughts
dmt allows you to percieve the spirit more.
And trees have alot of spirit life.
rivers are also quite powerful with energy/spirit.

I too find music distracting on DMT and also DPT....all other states of mind i enjoy music to enhance the trip.
But with DMT it is just an instant shift in consciousness.
I like to be by myself and have no thoughts and no distractions.....then inhale some dmt and see what unfolds
 
my thoughts exactly. yes rivers are also on my mind. I also like swimming/bathing in river water after a psychedelic experience. It is so CLEANSING.

horses also are very powerful on DMT (I remember my oral DMT trip was centered partially around horse (it was in a horse pasture) - nested paranthesis what a dork!).
 
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Would it be easy to convert 50mg pure DMT freebase to HCl form? If so, how?
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Not if your trying to get DMT HCl crystals. If your thinking of leaving it in solution for IM/IV injection, I recommend using citric or ascorbic acid to dissolve the freebase. It goes into solution more easily with a weak acid. Dilute acetic acid (or white vinegar) is another option. Do not use lemon juice as a source of citric acid! I found that you can dissolve up to 400 mg/mL DMT freebase with 200 mg pure citric acid. ;) Oh, and I don't know if this helped or not, but I added some sodium bicarbonate to decrease the acidity.
 
^I've seen a few other posts saying this on Bluelight so I might as well confirm it. I've successfully converted the (pure) freebase to DMT acetate for IM injection by heating 50mg in 1cc of 2.5% acetic acid solution. Citric acid (lab grade or better of course) may work better, though I can't personally comment on the concentration used. The experience is similar to but not quite the same as ayahuasca, its greatest comparative advantage being logistical. For me it has a 5 minute onset, a 15 minute peak, and a fairly quick decline with visuals disappearing at around the 40 minute mark. Syrian Rue or other MAOIs may potentiate it, change it qualitatively, and lengthen its duration. Subcutaneous administration may also increase duration. All of the usual considerations and precautions for preparing and administering injections should be observed.
 
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