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The Big and Dandy DMT Thread

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water is always a good energy source to be around. i like to go to the mountains and trip by rivers.

anyways i would also like to know more about the purity of the DMT that is available in this imaginary world we live in....
 
illusion25 said:
water is always a good energy source to be around. i like to go to the mountains and trip by rivers.

anyways i would also like to know more about the purity of the DMT that is available in this imaginary world we live in....
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I realy dont udnerstand why anyone would want to risk possable trouble for ordering DMT when you can get it so easily.



Is synthetic REALY that much different then extracted? honestly, anyone who has done booth, maybe on extracted, reagurdless of you pureity (Iv had some PURE stuff, which I found a waste of time to go through all the effort of obtaining, off white/yellow crystals do me just fine! :p ) you just cant get to this place where aliens talk to you and you get anal raped by alagators.


I wnat that, to be rape by some reptiles, you know they have something called a hemi penis right? ITS DUEL PENIAL ACTION!!!
 
I realy dont udnerstand why anyone would want to risk possable trouble for ordering DMT when you can get it so easily.
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me neither.

i was just curious about the purity of synthetic dmt compared to peoples own extracted DMT (from mimosa)

as u mentioned....
does the trip differ if something is made in a lab rather than from a plant.

my brother thinks it does...thats why he eats only shrooms and doesnt like "rc's"

i tend to think...a chemical is a chemical.
 
illusion25 said:
me neither.

i was just curious about the purity of synthetic dmt compared to peoples own extracted DMT (from mimosa)

as u mentioned....
does the trip differ if something is made in a lab rather than from a plant.

my brother thinks it does...thats why he eats only shrooms and doesnt like "rc's"

i tend to think...a chemical is a chemical.
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I used to think that, but smoke some DMT and look at the world behind the wolrd, these things arnt what we make them out to be, things have energy in which is unmessurable by any sceince.


I personaly ahve stoped all my obscure psychedelic chemicals using (fuck the term RC, ITS FUCKING COLA, AND DAMN DELISIOS!!!!LIKE COKE WITHOUT THE SYRUP!)



that is untill someone can get me hooked up with 2c-b again, all these damn people talking about 2c-b has had my tooth aching for months now!!! I honestly have more sorces for LSD then I know how to hook other up with, and DMT has always been something there, but it hasnt been till my ?psychedelic? maturity of now (I dont realy ask why, I just "ket it be") that Iv found GREAT use in, as hell, an anytime drug just to get an idea of a situation, take a DMT a blast befor you buy an apart, see what it has to tell you and if its true to what the realitor has said lol I dont know, Im fucked.



edit, so yeah, having LSD and DMT out the ying yang realy doesnt have me "searching" for that mr. right, Im aso sure that alot of those things Iv done havent been very good to the psyche, the 4aco DMT was NOICE but that shit lasted what? 2 1/2 weeks in my hands.


edit, also, from the mouth of my man who lays his own crystal

"LSD is just LSD till you put your love and hope into it. Then it turns into something special."
 
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well i will have a DMT or DPT trip this week and the next.
maybe both.

as for 2cb it isnt that great, personally. i pefer 2ce.
you can find 2cb if you looked hard enough.

the thing i like about mushrooms(and other plants)
is that each plant has a unique spirit and different one...so each mushroom has something different to teach you.
the universe is also different at different times...tap into it at the right time and ASK and ye shall recieve...right?

i am excited either way for this weekend...maybe i will wrie a trip report...but i dont like explaining things as it seems words can be misleading and tangible.

but i might share my DPT/DMT trip this week....we will see
 
illusion25 said:
the universe is also different at different times...tap into it at the right time and ASK and ye shall recieve...right?
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I was just thinking about that. It's very interesting to me how it seems that at different times, especially on a large scale, the psychedelic state seems to be different, to contain a different energy/message/feeling/etc for all of us. This seems especially true with DMT.

I often wonder what it would have been like to trip in the late 60s. Of course some people here know. But I'm a bit too young for that personally.
 
It's very interesting to me how it seems that at different times, especially on a large scale, the psychedelic state seems to be different, to contain a different energy/message/feeling/etc for all of us
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i like to believe that some psychedelics allow us to open up and learn about ourselves (phensthylamines)
while other psychedelics allow us to not only tap into our own mind but also the universe (Gaian Mind). The universe is always changing, the only constant in the universe is change.
So we must periodically tap in, tune in and listen to what the universe has to tell us.
Considering we came from the universe, are a part of it, and are ONE withn everything, its makes sense to listen to it and stay balanced.

I will open my third eye this weekend and see what the universe has to offer.
sometimes you get a glimpse of the harmony and sometimes the chaos.

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I was just thinking about that
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it seems like when i bring up discussion at my hoe with my brothers and close friends they tend to say the same thing.
it is always nice and reassuring to know that some people are on the same frequency as you .
 
Youkai said:
Is synthetic REALY that much different then extracted? honestly, anyone who has done booth, maybe on extracted, reagurdless of you pureity
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Interesting inquiry. Consider this:

wikipedia said:
The root bark is often the most desired part of the plant; it contains the highest recorded concentration of tryptamines, such as DMT and other phytoindoles.

Another completely unrelated use for this plant comes from Mexico, where the bark of the tree is used under the name tepezcohuite as a remedy for skin problems and injuries such as burns, and it is now used in commercial skin and hair products which are promoted as being able to rejuvenite skin. Research has shown that it has some useful activities which support the traditional uses. The bark is rich in tannins, saponins, alkaloids, lipids, phytosterols, glucosides, xylose, rhamnose, arabinose, lupeol, methoxychalcones, and kukulkanins. In vitro studies on bacterial cultures have shown it is three times more effective as a bacteriocide than streptomycin, although in vivo studies have not been as positive.
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Are there any other alkaloids in this popular source, mimosa hostilis, or any other commonly used plants? I understand that impurities of acid-base extracts are often the yellow/green tannins, but would other alkaloids be present to commonly play a role in the smoked effects?

Here's erowid, though the question does not exist anymore:

One substantial difference between these two plants is that MHRB has been reported by Ott and others (Ott 2000; Ott et al. 1999) to be orally active without the addition of a MAO inhibitor. Indeed, vinho da jurema, an entheogenic beverage traditionally used in Brazil, is prepared from MHRB without the inclusion of an additional known MAOI-containing constituent2. Ott has conjectured (Ott 2000; Ott et al. 1999) that MHRB may contain an unknown non-ß-carboline MAOI or some other as yet undetermined psychoactive substance(s).

A recent paper (Vepsäläinen et al. 2005) reported the isolation of a novel phytoindole from Mimosa tenuiflora stem bark (creating an entirely new class of phytoindoles), dubbed yuremamine (after 'yurema', an alternate spelling of jurema), and suggested this substance may be a MAOI, thereby orally activating the DMT in M. tenuiflora3. It is somewhat strange that the researchers analyzed M. tenuiflora stem bark, since their paper acknowledges that jurema is traditionally prepared from the plant's root bark, and different plant parts frequently have differing chemistry. For example, Mimosa tenuiflora stem bark, which is used medicinally in Mexico to treat burns and skin ailments, has been reported to contain merely 0.03% DMT (Meckes-Lozoya et al. 1990), which makes it a pretty weak source for this tryptamine.
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cache of source

This leads me back to square one: What else is in mimosa?
 
One early "report" of the pink synthed DMT HCl in different forum indicates it is "the best DMT you will ever smoke". They report needing to smoke only 30mg, as opposed to 50mg of the freebase extract, and that the smoke is much smoother. It may be a week or so before I can confirm this.
 
What can I expect from a prepared bottle of Ayahuasca Pisco?
I've experienced DPT many many times and 5-meo-dmt several times.
For some reason I've had this bottle of Ayahuasca in my fridge for
almost a year... I am thinking it is almost time for it.
 
how did it compare to extract?

15mg is a very small dose for extract. if you got any activity at all it means the stuff must be quite potent.

post a comparison or trip report when you smoke a full dose :)
 
After reading I just had to go see for myself. Vaporized 10 mg.

Yep, it works!!! Oh yes it does indeed!!! =D =D =D 8o =D

Think it could be the freebase? It must be, there was almost no residue and the smoke was not very harsh compared to other extracts I've tried. :)
 
TheAngryGolfer said:
how did it compare to extract?

15mg is a very small dose for extract. if you got any activity at all it means the stuff must be quite potent.

post a comparison or trip report when you smoke a full dose :)
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Yeah I was just testing it. I've never smoked extract so I can't compare. The poster from another forum I quoted earlier indicates it's about 40% more potent by weight and not as harsh though. Naturally he reported the experience as the same. It might be that having less pain in the lungs going into it could make for a better experience overall though.
 
Not all extracts are born equal though. I bet some are >90% pure while others are < 60% pure. With this stuff though, I bet you've got >99% purity minimum.
 
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