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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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^That is interesting about the opiate withdrawl. I get brain zaps while trying to sleep on hydrocodone. Brain zaps are usually correlated with low serotonin levels. Maybe opiates effect serotonin systems in specific parts of the brain. They don't really release it or block its re-uptake, but they could alter the way it's distributed through some as of yet unknown mechanism. The withdrawal mitigating effects of ondansetron and the brain zaps with hydrocodone suggest maybe something with serotonin is going on.
 
I agree... that's an interesting observation. I was about to say I've never had brain zaps from opiates, but actually I have, rarely, but only when awake. I couldn't speculate as to what conditions were present other than opiate intoxication.
 
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I'm umming and ahhing whether to get this or 6-apb.
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Two very different drugs. I've tried the 2nd synth sample of 6apb and it absolutely knocked my bollocks off. Mind you, I did fuck up my measurements and took way too much, but it was very MDMA, pushy, full OEV experience. Very very enjoyable. Felt like I'd had a very heavy experience when it was over.

aMT is much more subtle on all fronts, whilst still managing to hit all the right spots. The euphoria is consistent and not overpowering; at no point do you feel as if you are not in complete control. Of course, you're fucked, but not 'out of this world'. The visuals are also very different. On 6apb, I actually had tangible objects (bright blue orbs) in my field of vision that I could move around and play with. aMT is much more trippy and the visuals play around with the environment that's already there.

I say try and both and pick your favorite. I think they both have their strong points depending on your situation.

I would caution though that the new 6apb pellets do not appear to be anywhere near as strong as the 2nd synth. I think (for many reasons which I won't go into publicaly) the lab have had to scale back the amount of the 'good stuff' in the pellets. Not by much, but certainly to achieve what I achieved with the 2nd synth, you're gonna have to spend about £40-£50, which makes aMT by the far the best cost wise.

Enjoy!!
 
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Two very different drugs. I've tried the 2nd synth sample of 6apb and it absolutely knocked my bollocks off. Mind you, I did fuck up my measurements and took way too much, but it was very MDMA, pushy, full OEV experience. Very very enjoyable. Felt like I'd had a very heavy experience when it was over.

aMT is much more subtle on all fronts, whilst still managing to hit all the right spots. The euphoria is consistent and not overpowering; at no point do you feel as if you are not in complete control. Of course, you're fucked, but not 'out of this world'. The visuals are also very different. On 6apb, I actually had tangible objects (bright blue orbs) in my field of vision that I could move around and play with. aMT is much more trippy and the visuals play around with the environment that's already there.

I say try and both and pick your favorite. I think they both have their strong points depending on your situation.

I would caution though that the new 6apb pellets do not appear to be anywhere near as strong as the 2nd synth. I think (for many reasons which I won't go into publicaly) the lab have had to scale back the amount of the 'good stuff' in the pellets. Not by much, but certainly to achieve what I achieved with the 2nd synth, you're gonna have to spend about £40-£50, which makes aMT by the far the best cost wise.

Enjoy!!
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Yeah from the reports I'm thinking the pellets are no more than 80mg which is a shame. Will probably be best to hold back for a few weeks till some quality or greed control is introduced. Seems as though some of the pellets are well pressed and even, others less so. so there might even be different batches in this lot!
Having tried AMT once in tiny increments and building up, I think I'll have a lot less but a bigger dose this time, this will probably make it more intense as I think constantly redosing small amounts doesn't work as well, gets really mongy. I did abuse the shit out of it though. Only thing that puts me off AMT is the looong half-life of it. Will see what my state my finances are in tomorrow, wait for a few more reliable reports on the 6-apb front to come through then decide tomorrow. I'd just buy both but times are hard lol.

Cheers!
 
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^Yeah mate, don't be doing the whole 250mg again. That was crazy man lol! - the story is already quite legendary around here.

60mg oral on an empty stomach was a strong experience for me.

Something in the 40mg range would be a good first dose, in the scheme of 'larger doses'.
 
lol yeah was a bit of a stupid of me doing that much, do I still hold the record?=D
Felt like I was on the moon at one point the ground looked like it was waving up and down, saw about ten different me's everytime I looked in the mirror was very trippy indeed. Clouds were purple then flipped orange noticed all the details in hd was pretty damn cool at the time. There were some audal(sp?) hallucinations not like voices or owt just like warped nice relaxing wavy sounds, the wind enhanced it.
Felt somewhat shit for a couple days after but that's to be expected from not much sleep, food and quite a few cans while on it. Won't be going daft like that again! Not necessary really just thought i'd experiment and go for it as I find everything moreish once in the mood. It's not actually moreish though to anyone reading i'm just a fiend. Like you said though, you never feel out of control or anything like that, it is forgiving and not pushy. I think I'd have say 10mg just to get your body to adjust, then go for the 30-60mg dose.
 
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+ and- aMT (amtryptamine)

just found a tid bit about the potentcy of -aMT as compared to +aMT in a compilation of synth routes... they stated that the +aMT was five times as potent as a stimulant.

there have been alot of mixed reports about aMT and i believe this difference plays a strong role, as well as the differences between salt/freebase, ect forms of aMT


in my opinion +aMT is more desirable, however some people dont like speedy effects in which case they may prefer the other. this also explains why some people claim its relatively awesome psychedelic effects, while others tell a completely different story of a magical euphoric-psychedelic-stimulant

ive always wondered why amphetamine and aMT arent named more similarly?

a-m-phet-amine OR alpha methyl phenethylamine.

may i suggest: a-m-trypt-amine "amtryptamine" for Alpha methyl tryptamine.
 
^Interesting on the first point...mind linking your source?

It has also been shown that (+) AMT has 4x greater affinity for 5-HT2A than (-) AMT, so it's unlikely that the (-) enantiomer would have more (or even equivalent) psychedelic effects.

Psychoactive Drug Screening Program; results from McKenna DJ et al. 1989.

More importantly, I find it unlikely that there are various enantio-pure compounds circulating, since enantio purification requires additional steps during synthesis, and there is no reason why it wouldn't be marketed as such. Even if it had been, based on recent actions of the 'RC scene', I'd be skeptical until I saw third-party testing.

There are mixed reports on every psychedelic drug. That's just the nature of the beast. While it's tempting to chalk the differences up to unique drug structure, it's more likely that the differences are due to psychological set and setting plus the individual's physiology.
 
how long does AMT last when stored inside of a dimebag inside of a smellyproof bag
inside of a freezer? i want to treasure this remarkable material.
 
A long time... the freebase does anyway. It's quite stable, especially in the cold. I'd put the bag inside a small jar too if I were you. But probably not necessary, just even better.
 
I finally got around to laying my hands on some aMT over the weekend and just bought a scale on line today. I can`t wait to dose up a 40mg hit! But man that stuff does smell. It came in a smellyproof bag and then another 2 bags after that and when I opened the envelope my whole car reeked liked bad breath. My girlfriend was less than thrilled.
 
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I finally got around to laying my hands on some aMT over the weekend and just bought a scale on line today. I can`t wait to dose up a 40mg hit! But man that stuff does smell. It came in a smellyproof bag and then another 2 bags after that and when I opened the envelope my whole car reeked liked bad breath. My girlfriend was less than thrilled.
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your aMT doesnt sound like the aMT us brits are getting, sounds more like the freebase so it probably isnt the best idea to start off at 40mg lol you should start with an anti-depressant dose first of 5-10mg imo seeing as most people smoking the freebase even see psychedelic effects at this dose?
 
The smoked dose of AMT is much lower than the oral dose. Freebase AMT is what 95% of the existing reports are reporting, and the dosages recommended at Erowid are accurate for that. I think 40mg is a good starting dose, or maybe 35mg. But if you've never had AMT before, definitely try an allergy test dose first, a few mg anyway.
 
^ 35 mg seems to work well for most people for their 1st dose. Although some people just don't jive with this particular tryp, so starting low doesn't hurt.
 
So I didn't end up dosing until Saturday as it was more convenient for the both of us.

Decided to start off with 30mg instead of 40mg, but will definitely increase to 40mg next time around. Very smooth come up, and only mild stomach discomfit during the onset. Noticed a definite increase in energy after the first hour, was pacing around the room inspecting objects and whatnot. Everything was a lot more interesting, and things seemed more amusing. Started feeling really good coming up to the 2nd hour, couldn't resist the urge to smile from ear to ear. Sometime into the 2nd hour the rushes came on, along with a slight bodyload. Was feeling very happy and chatty so decided to invite a few more people round. Felt like a mixture of shrooms/MDMA. Visuals were kicking in by this point. Noticed distortion of the size of objects, accompanied by a zooming in and out effect. Colours were more intense, and light was more sparkley. Some mild CEVs as well. Music was more interesting, and had a lot more depth. Very similar to what I get with shrooms. Started getting speedier by the 3rd hour with slight jaw clenching going on. Headspace was somewhat trippy, but very easy to control. Spent the rest of the evening chatting with mates, and kicking ass on the Xbox. Bit of a migraine the following day and felt a little drained, but that was it really.

I have a feeling this chem will be perfect for Bestival at a slightly higher dose.
 
Hey does anyone know exactly what dose of AMT would be a Full MAOI Inhibiting dose.
My friend wants to try Oral DMT, but we currently have no access to MAOIS at the moment
 
^ AMT's MAOI action is weak. Someone mentioned trying a dose of AMT to try a kind of pharmahuasca and it didn't work.

I think AMT's MAOI properties are similar to some other psychedelics and MDMA. AMT's MAOI properties might be a little stronger, but not by much, and certainly not enough to be a plausible MAOI for oral DMT.
 
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