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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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^^It has different effects on different people. Maybe it's not for you? I never get strong visuals on aMT, but do enjoy the ride! Maybe an increase in dose will get you where you want to go. I think 50mg is a good next step.
 
Boombox2 said:
Ok. Had my first amt experience. Slightly disappointed. Received 1/2 gram of grey HCI powder (apparently a slightly stronger synth). Took 35mg. Felt groggy and shaky on the come up. About 5 hours in feels ok, had a line of ket. Felt nice and couldn't really move. 6 hours in re-dosed another 30mg of amt. Then not a lot happened for the rest of the trip. Couldn't sleep until about 15 hrs after first dose and just felt stimulated and tired. No visuals at all.

Day after, slight headache and very tired.

Was expecting much better really. I'm someone who's more interested in the psychedelic side rather than the MDMA side of amt (ideally a bit of both!) but all i really ended up with was a reasonable high and lots of stimulation.

Have I got rubbish stuff (I hope not at £80 a gram!) or was I just unlucky? I did smoke a lot of weed during and I guess that bit ok K may have made a difference. Do other drugs take the edge of the psychedelia/high?

Should I try 50mg with no re-dose and no ket or weed in a couple of weeks?
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HCl is not a potent as freebase and people usually need at least 50 mg of freebase to start getting psychedelia. Maybe try 50 mg next time and work your way up from there. It may take a few trials with AMT to find the right dose because everyone reacts differently and it requires fairly large doses before it gets visual.
 
Volundr - I hope not too. For your sake. please let us know how it goes.

tragiclemming/love sex desire - Thanks for the advice. Will up the dose and see what happens.
 
Does anyone else feel that a distinguishing characteristic of AMT is its light, transparent, and lucid feeling? I mean this both bodily and mentally.
 
On MAOI properties:

I ate some pastrami during the come up on 30mg HCl. I had an annoying headache from trip onset until I took a couple of ibuprofen maybe 8 hours after ingestion. I never made the link until now, looking back on my trip ramblings in EADD. Pastrami is possibly bad with an MAOI.

After the ibuprofen had worked it's magic I stupidly drank a bottle of red wine and ate nuts, blue cheese and chocolate, all contraindicated. I was starving and that's all I had... it didn't hurt me at all, in fact I felt great.
 
Boombox2 said:
Ok. Had my first amt experience. Slightly disappointed. Received 1/2 gram of grey HCI powder (apparently a slightly stronger synth). Took 35mg. Felt groggy and shaky on the come up. About 5 hours in feels ok, had a line of ket. Felt nice and couldn't really move. 6 hours in re-dosed another 30mg of amt. Then not a lot happened for the rest of the trip. Couldn't sleep until about 15 hrs after first dose and just felt stimulated and tired. No visuals at all.

Day after, slight headache and very tired.

Was expecting much better really. I'm someone who's more interested in the psychedelic side rather than the MDMA side of amt (ideally a bit of both!) but all i really ended up with was a reasonable high and lots of stimulation.

Have I got rubbish stuff (I hope not at £80 a gram!) or was I just unlucky? I did smoke a lot of weed during and I guess that bit ok K may have made a difference. Do other drugs take the edge of the psychedelia/high?

Should I try 50mg with no re-dose and no ket or weed in a couple of weeks?
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i had a similar experience, somewhere inbetween mongy pip pills + 'not enough mushrooms' feeling.. i took somewhere between 20mg and 25mg and did not enjoy the 'trip' whatsoever. nasty sicky feeling, dull elements of 'tripping' and body felt like led weight. the come up was about 5 hours long and then the actual experience only lasted 2 hours.. until ketamine was thrown in the mix which actually felt like a breath of fresh air.

is this entirely due to the dose i took? would a higher dose make the drug more enjoyable or would it just add more intense effects on to the aforementioned bodyload nastiness? if the latter i don't think i'll be dabbling in aMT again
 
^Try it rectally at the same dose and see if it's better. Simply mix the freebase with white vinegar and weight until it dissolves. Now you have aMT acetate for plugging. You may want to dilute the vinegar with extra water since it might sting a little.
 
its my first time doing AMT, its freebase, what would be best ROA between smoking & snorting it, would i use different amounts for each ROA or the same,
i dont want to plug,
 
^Snorting freebase won't work, at least not well. Smoking it changes the nature of the trip to something that's more stimulating and less euphoric, at least in my experience, and I assume you don't want to do oral because of the potential nausea. It's just your butt; get over it and you'll be rewarded.
 
^Between 50 and 75 percent of your oral dose I think, assuming you've used it orally (otherwise start with like 20 I guess). I've only done low doses that way so maybe your should wait for someone who's done higher.
 
I plugged 30mg and it wasn't any stonger than the same oral dose, I am sure it has been mentioned somewhere in this thread that plugging doesn't really increase potency with aMT and I agree.
 
My 30mg HCl dose was plugged. I was aiming low but got middle, with mild visuals at the peak (multi-coloured halos), waves of euphoria and stimulation for 6-7 hours after. I am average build, 95kg. Could certainly bear to take it higher but I wouldn't if it's your first dose.

Edit: I've never dosed orally so can't draw a comparison.
 
MrTiHKAL said:
I plugged 30mg and it wasn't any stonger than the same oral dose, I am sure it has been mentioned somewhere in this thread that plugging doesn't really increase potency with aMT and I agree.
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Hmm, I wonder why not. IMing most definitely increases potency, by more than double in my experience, so if it's not first pass that's lowering bioavailability I don't know what it would be.
 
About the same as orally. I've never done it personally but I have friends that have and they swear by it - faster come up and less of the 2-3 hour "tweak" period, more like 30 minutes, and a very strong and clean trip with much less nausea and overall bodyload.
 
I had no nausea whatsoever plugging, even with the pastrami. Muscular tension would be the only "bodyload". I did start with an empty stomach though.
 
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