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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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I tried the freebase at 50mg orally for the first time recently after only having had the grey hcl in the past, come up was smooth as silk and bodyload much reduced, very euphoric, better visuals and more pleasant and enjoyable in every way.
 
MrTiHKAL said:
I tried the freebase at 50mg orally for the first time recently after only having had the grey hcl in the past, come up was smooth as silk and bodyload much reduced, very euphoric, better visuals and more pleasant and enjoyable in every way.
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That sounds good to me, so i will probably do it orally, did you bomb it in a rizla or mix in a drink, did you redose atoll,
would 50mg be okay for first time ever on AMT or would that be too much
 
^Yeah i bombed it in a rizla, you don't want to taste it, trust me on that.
I really want to say yes take 50mg for your first dose because I had such a wonderful day on it but you are not me and I can't say how it will effect you, aMT really effects people in different ways which you will see if you read through this thread.

I worked my way up from 30 to 50mg with the grey hcl over a few weekends and it wasn't until I hit 50 that I really saw the potential in this stuff, so I was confident to jump in at 50 with the freebase even though it is more potent by weight, in fact I could still have gone a bit higher but I only had the 50mg as a free sample, so there was no redosing but i took it at 11 am and couldn't get to sleep until 1:30am and that was after a couple mg of xanax so didn't need to top up.

Only you can make the decision where you want to start really.

Have fun.
 
^ its freebase i have, yeah i know i can only make the decision,
just reading this snip below from someone elses post has made me think i dont want to take too little if this is how it makes you feel,

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had a similar experience, somewhere inbetween mongy pip pills + 'not enough mushrooms' feeling.. i took somewhere between 20mg and 25mg and did not enjoy the 'trip' whatsoever. nasty sicky feeling, dull elements of 'tripping' and body felt like led weight,

so in your opinion would you say freebase is better than hcl
 
^Only tried the freebase once but yeah as I said above I found it better in every way.

I haven't done it myself but a few people here have advised first timers to take 30mg and see how you feel after a couple of hours, if your not where you want to be take a bit more.
 
It's interesting reading the salt vs freebase debate. Basically, it boils down to this. The HCL salt has approx 20% more mass per mole, or for the non chemists, 1 molecule of salt has approx 20% more mass than 1 molecule of freebase. aMT freebase molecular mass = 174g/mole and HCl salt (174 +35.5) = 209.5g/mole. Assuming the products are 100% pure (which they won't be), then they should have the same effect assuming you have the same molecular ratio. You just need approx 20% larger dose of the salt (actually 17% by mass). Once inside the body, the salt will dissociate into it's respective ions and will be indistinguishable from the 'pure' basic aMT.

So, it all depends on the quality of the synth rather than salt vs freebase.
Steps off soap box.
 
Yesterday at 1.00pm i took 5mg orally of AMT freebase for it`s antidepressant effects,i had just run out of my Rhodiola rosea that i had been taking for the last five months and wanted to see if the AMT could lift my spirits.

I should also add that i`m just finishing off a Dianabol only cycle,also i`m going through a tough time with a seperation and a new baby involved.

So at 1.00pm i took the AMT,my first ever dose of this compound,i don`t know if it was a psuedo effect but i`m sure i had alerts at the 30min point,at 2.30pm the music on my mp3 player sounded much better,richer and deeper,the sun felt hotter than usual and everything felt and looked brighter...Clearer.

By 3.30pm my mood hadn`t lightened but it had become heavy,the weight of my problems became magnified,i was in a paradoxical state of mind,the antidepressant effects of the drug were not apparent,if anything my mood had declined.

By 6.30pm i had improved and felt slightly stimulated,i felt quirky and silly,by 11.00pm i felt tired and went to bed,i fell asleep easily but had disturbing dreams...Well not all of them,in one my ex and i had wild sex and that she had the perfect body,but in the other dream she was being totally cold and i flew into a rage and ended up beating her.
The dreams were so realistic it was frightening.

Today has been not good at all,not only have the dreams disturbed me,bt i have felt very depressed.

So all in all the experiment to find an antidepressant in AMT has failed terribly.
 
Sorry to hear than Pheonix rising. I think the anti-depressant qualities at such a low dose are cumulative. I doubt that 1 x 5mg dose would have any significant impact on your current state of mind.

I think you may get a better impression over a longer period of time. That's not to say that professional help may also be better than self medication. Good luck and welcome.
 
Thanks Tragiclemming,

I understand about what you say with it be cumulative,like any MAOI then,but if used in a high dose then the MAOI effects would be more apparent over the following week.

I know self medicating is not always the right way,but maybe i need a higher dose for a breakthrough,maybe not,especially when doing it on your own.I`m not really into the spiritual aspect of psychedelics,but more the scientific approach using the intellect to sift through and resolve problems on a deep level.

I`m looking forward to getting to know people here.
 
tragiclemming said:
So, it all depends on the quality of the synth rather than salt vs freebase.
Steps off soap box.
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Yes mate, I was comparing it to the grey hcl that has been doing the rounds here, rather than hcl in general because that is the only one I have tried. Maybe that didn't come across well.
I am sure that the freebase I had was a better synth though, it was white for a start, or is hcl always grey?
 
Took a 5mg allergy test on Monday night. No problems, felt a slight relaxation/happiness but I reckon that was more down to me than the drug.

Had 25mg tonight (5 hours into such dose now) and was sorely disappointed. It's very light and relaxing (eventually, after 3 hours of waiting) but no euphoria, no energy... Didn't feel nausea at any point. The bag smells rank though, so I can only presume it is indeed amt.

I'm hoping a 40mg or even 50mg dose may take me to where I want to go. Roll on Saturday. Cross fingers.
 
RLP, I found 25mg underwhelming myself and it was even dysphoric at times. 50mg, however, was unbelieveable and a really beautiful experience. Little visuals but shockingly intense euphoria which just kept giving! Mixed in some Mephedrone which took me to where I wanted to be, heaven! :D This was the freebase form, fyi. :)

Good luck!
 
Cheers. I'm only looking for mild visuals to be honest. A major trip can be fun but I don't have time to write off the best part of a day anymore.

I reckon I'll go with 50mg. Why not eh?

Edit: I've also got the freebase form. It smells delightful!
 
phoenix rising, research about ketamine in google and you'll be very surprised. I was surprised.

I write this because 4 days ago I learned, thanks to this forum, about a legal analogue of ketamine, Methoxetamine (search here on bluelight, sorry I can't post links yet). Methoxetamine is legal, and maybe you can buy from the same place you bought amt. Otherwise surely you can google somowhere.

One of the posters here on bluelight named it "heaven on earth". I haven't tried ketamine ever before, and I tried methoxetamine for first time yesterday -I can't disagree with the poster.

But search about ketamine, about its healths dangers and its anti depressive properties on google. If you do not now about it, as I didn't know, you too will be amazed and flabbergasted... but no so much as when you actually try it though!
 
Be careful how you use them though. They are notoriously innacurate with near-zero weights.
Best technique is to put something on top first, eg bank card (do not re-zero/tare the scale) and then add what you're measuring on top.

Then redo it at least once.
 
i imagine these experiences are some of your first experiences with psychedelic compounds.

I imagine you may have done mushrooms and things like that before, but i've always noticed that when working with the pure compounds, especially those people, who are not completely psychedelically inclined to every aspect of their psyche, and of the experience, will find that they are experiencing a different almost more personal array of effects than those who are more able to fundmentally tap into the "system" a bit more.

Now you also need to realize that maybe your dream, was two possible outcomes, and you got to experience each one of them, kind of like a drop in time. Just understand that, it's the nature of the pendulum to swing back and forth, and its the nature of the coin to have two sides. Yin and Yang, if there are undealt emotions, and you take a psychedelic, it will make you deal with them.

AMT is an antidepressant, but it is also a Psychedelic. and an Amphetamine.
It will produce stimulation, prolonged concentration, visuals, and it will put you in touch with things that you thought you've buried.
But it will allow you to deal with these zombies, in a more relaxed, gentler way, than lets say DPT, or 2c-e.
 
The worse by a long way BL I had from aMT was after eating a can of smoked oysters, I thought the MAOI profile of said bivalves was OK, could the smoking or canning process increase it?
 
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