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The Big and Dandy 4-AcO-DMT thread - New incarnation

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It really sounds like I'm going to love this stuff. Not stimulating, lots of visuals, and not harsh on the body or mind until higher doses.
 
Insufflated around 65mg of this recently. Very bitter tasting compund.
I must say 4-aco-dmt feels very light in its effects. Great bodyhigh, feels very relaxing, this is probably my favourite aspect of this chemical. Not much visual activity, though 4-aco-trypts are typically almost non-visual for me.
Mentally it feels very clear, no mental confusion of any kind. What I really like is the therapeutic aspect, it really allows me to analyze myself, others - realize, and work through problematic issues while remaining pretty clear-headed.
 
drugs said:
Insufflated around 65mg of this recently. Very bitter tasting compund.
I must say 4-aco-dmt feels very light in its effects. Great bodyhigh, feels very relaxing, this is probably my favourite aspect of this chemical. Not much visual activity, though 4-aco-trypts are typically almost non-visual for me.
Mentally it feels very clear, no mental confusion of any kind..
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Insufflating this substance is a far less superior way to ingest this chemical. That cant be said for too many other chemicals but ive noticed that my sweet spot for oral ingestion is 25mg thrown in a capsule and swallowed. When you insufflate this substance it dosnt seem to get processed properly. Without a doubt go with an oral dose.
 
Big)Sky said:
Insufflating this substance is a far less superior way to ingest this chemical. That cant be said for too many other chemicals but ive noticed that my sweet spot for oral ingestion is 25mg thrown in a capsule and swallowed. When you insufflate this substance it dosnt seem to get processed properly. Without a doubt go with an oral dose.
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what ARE you talking about?!?! Sniffing ANYTHING is more efficient than oral ingestion.

"superior" - what on earth...
 
Not with the 4-aco-dmt molecule. At least in my past few experiences. When insufflating this substance it kicks in slightly quicker but no where near the visual status when oraly ingesting.
 
Big)Sky said:
Not with the 4-aco-dmt molecule. At least in my past few experiences. When insufflating this substance it kicks in slightly quicker but no where near the visual status when oraly ingesting.
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No way dude, even the "basics" page on erowid says snorting increases effects and decreases come-up time, and based on my personal experience, and the like twenty other people I've given 4-aco-dmt too, all agree snorting makes it work better, faster, and stronger. Plugging is also awesome, and I've read about IV being even better.
 
Ive had a quick look through but couldnt find whether people had combined this with MDMA, i have some really nice md and want to try it with 4 aco for a friends bday.

I think it will be an ace combo, anybody experienced this?

Peace
 
I have done 4-aco-dmt orally as well in the past, albeit at half the dose. I would have this time too, but I had recently consumed a meal and didnt want to wait it out. 4-aco-dmt is not a very strong psychedelic for me. I find higher doses of iprocin to be alot more intense. Though, I really like the therapeutic side of it, and the bodyhigh is excellent, almost like a psychedelic sedative.
 
4-aco-dmt isn't stronger than oral when snorted, yeah it goes against the typical trend with drugs, but i guarantee you, it is not as strong, perhaps even weaker when insufflated.
 
Its weaker because of the method of action that the drug is believed to follow - that it is de-acetylated into psilocin itself... Putting it up the nose, this process takes a lot longer for the drug to reach the appropriate enzymes
 
I cant say I noticed much difference in effects between oral and insufflation. it still takes around 30min until it starts to take effect. The trip is about the same for me.
I think the deciding factor for me is the Acetoxy group. I just dont respond well to 4-aco trypts. I seem to need the hydroxyl group to get the desired intensity in effects.
 
^ i found 4-aco-dmt to be very underwhelming until I heavily stepped up the dosage (oral) and then it became as intense and visual as anything, only with no mental or body side effects. Absolute control and wonder.
 
Volundr said:
4-aco-dmt isn't stronger than oral when snorted, yeah it goes against the typical trend with drugs, but i guarantee you, it is not as strong, perhaps even weaker when insufflated.
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Thank you man. This drug does not belong up your nose. It is without a doubt weaker when insufflated. If this drug doesnt have the visuals your looking for kick the dose up to 25mg. I took 25mg and had the visuals i was looking for. Everything was dancing and moving very fast. Towards the peak the colors started really getting vivid and it gave me enough energy where i was dancing around my kitchen. Mind you i had a cup of coffee and a fat pile of bee pollen before dropping, but on the come up i was floored staring at my celing dance around to a lettuce live set.8o

Also when i first took it i weighed out my dose 15mg and just dipped my finger in the pile like i was eating some molly and ate it that way and didn't have the effects i had when i threw it in a capsule and dropped it directly in my stomach. Much better effects.
 
Its hard to give a definitive answer to your question...it depends on a lot of factors. it will probably be ok for a pretty long time without any loss in potency, if possible put it in the fridge
 
I've read through this thread and a few others in this focus forum as well as some Erowid experiences about different psychadelics and I think this is the one I'm going to choose to be my first ever. Just asking to make sure there isn't something I'm missing that makes this a terrible idea :P
 
so long as you are careful to take into consideration the things you would with any psychedelic (set, setting, dosage, etc) i think 4-aco-dmt would make a great first psychedelic
 
drugs said:
Insufflated around 65mg of this recently. Very bitter tasting compund.
I must say 4-aco-dmt feels very light in its effects. Great bodyhigh, feels very relaxing, this is probably my favourite aspect of this chemical. Not much visual activity, though 4-aco-trypts are typically almost non-visual for me.
Mentally it feels very clear, no mental confusion of any kind. What I really like is the therapeutic aspect, it really allows me to analyze myself, others - realize, and work through problematic issues while remaining pretty clear-headed.
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Why are so many people so obsessed with stuffing every drug they come across up their noses? Something, I dunno, psychotic and infantile about it. DO SOME RESEARCH! Things that work best when swallowed... SWALLOW THEM godamnit!

These are probably hundreds of posts on here that state that this compound barely works when snorted. Yet here we have again one of the current generation of "Spoon feed me everything, I can't be bothered to spend 10 minutes clicking a few links and reading a few paragraphs." When people die because they are this careless and did I say, LAZY, honestly, I am not very upset and just figure it was their destiny and life-lesson for being so, one more time, LAZY!

OK, sorry... there, feel alot better to have gotten that off my chest! :!
 
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