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The Big and Dandy 4-AcO-DMT thread - New incarnation

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At 35mg my visuals were pretty good* but I'm going to up the dose next time. (not purely for more visuals, just because i want to find my 'perfect' dosage)


*I could make mountains and the landscape around me melt etc.
 
Umm all the foliage on the mountain opposite me would twist upwards in a never ending fractal motion yet of course never move. Kinda like those patterns you look at that move yet are completely still. I had what i like to call 'HD Vision', as in, all the colours around me were enhanced and I could follow anything with my eyes, for example a bee flew past before heading off into the distance and I could follow it in perfect crispness for at least 100m of flight before i looked away. All the foliage around me would form into patterns if I allowed them to, however at times it was pretty much vertical wet terrain so i didn't allow myself to lose too much focus :p

Ah and the clouds, i discovered that the clouds are actually giant snow flake shapes layered like a snowflake brush or something in photoshop haha


But yeah, i'm sure I could've allowed it to get a lot more visual but for safety reasons i had to keep some degree of focus in to what i was actually doing physically.
 
Seriously? Holy crap... Only thing that has ever done that to me was high dose 5-MeO-AMT...

What dose might be required to produce such visual awesomeness? I'm thinking I may really like this one if it produces visuals like that... May even make me skip out on 2C-T-2 if its that good.

I actually only got that with a combination of whiskey, 2C-E, and 4-AcO-DMT, but there was barely any 2C-E and I'm sure the whiskey didn't add to the visuals, I took around 30-35mg 4-AcO-DMT, 5-10mg nasal 2C-E and had drank a bottle of whiskey beforehand.

I haven't had it so intense other times but I've definitely had it get extremely visual, all the walls swirling, patterns appearing, overlays of eyes, faces, lines, shapes etc.. colours everywhere, the only thing I don't get with 4-AcO-DMT is tracers, and if I'm taking a lower dose I never get anything in the way of melting/morphing.
 
Sounds like quite a promising substance. I hope it isn't too stimulating though... last thing I need is to have to take more klonopin on top of what I already take (2mg a day).

Also, I get visuals on just about anything... Methylone even gives me quite strong MDA-like visuals... so I'm thinking I'm going to really like the eye candy on this.
 
Yes, it is somewhat sedating...moreso than 4-HO-DMT. And it has the same amount of depth that 4-HO-DMT does, in my opinion (with just as good of visuals, same potential for ego loss at the right dose). I actually prefer it to mushrooms.
 
I feel in control again and I am going to work hard to stay with this.

I've somewhat recently found that trying to remember something psychological I've learned always ends up making me lose it. The very act of trying to "hold on" to a lesson brings a form of tension and makes one lose the state.

I've actually found the best way to do it is to just let it slip into the subconscious.

Forget about it; that way you won't lose it. :)

Took me so long to learn this lesson. Keep a journal, but don't read for any purpose other than nostalgia. The growing is in the experiencing. There is nothing to remember that will help you.

Good stuff, all the same.
 
Wahoo I got my order this morning - will be bioessaying this tomorrow I think - at around a 40mg dose (very different from my last 14mg dose).

It is a lot more crystalline than the last order of this that I got, which was fairly matte, so I am thinking I might have received the Hydrochloride, not the Fumarate.
 
Wahoo I got my order this morning - will be bioessaying this tomorrow I think - at around a 40mg dose (very different from my last 14mg dose).

It is a lot more crystalline than the last order of this that I got, which was fairly matte, so I am thinking I might have received the Hydrochloride, not the Fumarate.

You should ask the vendor/dealer, if it's HCl the dosage is a little lower, so you could take 30-35mg for the same effect.
 
I was just about to order 1g from that site and now they're sold out. DAMN YOU!


However I presume as it wasn't part of their sale it will be restocked. (Bordering on vendor discussion, apologies)
 
Anyone have any experience with mixing this stuff with aMT? Did 4-aco last weekend and aMT the weekend before, for a while I was torn on which to do this weekend since both are insanely awesome. Now I can't help wondering if I can have the best of both worlds?
 
Anyone have any experience with mixing this stuff with aMT? Did 4-aco last weekend and aMT the weekend before, for a while I was torn on which to do this weekend since both are insanely awesome. Now I can't help wondering if I can have the best of both worlds?


Do one friday after work then save the other one for saturday ?
 
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