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QFT 4-AcO-DMT is so kind and gentle. Its hard to find a chemical so forgiving even at high doses.
The Big and Dandy 4-AcO-DMT thread - New incarnation
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MagickalKat777
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Hmmm... VERY nice! Maybe I should stock up :D How's the body load on this one? 4-HO-DET and 4-HO-MiPT had a fair amount of body load...
Oh I know it will. I'm just saying... People that have "degraded" 4-AcO most likely have a 4-AcO/4-HO mix...
And that's one thing that scares me greatly about 4-AcO-DMT... the fact that just about every sample most likely contains some measurable amount of psilocin.
Delsyd
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i still have some of the original batch and it is good as ever.
(but now my 2 grams has dwindled to about 200mg, will be time to stock up again soon.)
Stored in an amber glass vial in a tin box with silica packets.
(but now my 2 grams has dwindled to about 200mg, will be time to stock up again soon.)
Stored in an amber glass vial in a tin box with silica packets.
Jblazingphoenix100
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MagicalKatt - why does that scare you!?!?!
Different varieties of mushrooms contain different ratios of alkaloids - 4-aco-dmt feeling almost NOTHING like Liberty Caps from my experience, but very similar (almost identical in fact) to some beautiful Gold Caps I had a few weeks ago.
Don't be scared, just embrace it.
Different varieties of mushrooms contain different ratios of alkaloids - 4-aco-dmt feeling almost NOTHING like Liberty Caps from my experience, but very similar (almost identical in fact) to some beautiful Gold Caps I had a few weeks ago.
Don't be scared, just embrace it.
MagickalKat777
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More for legal purposes... If a baggie says 4-AcO-DMT but is tested to contain psilocin due to break down, it is officially a schedule I substance.
demon66
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careful with RC's people!
MagickalKat777
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This one is much less of an RC than any other RC out there because it is ridiculously close to psilocin... so close in fact that I'm amazed nobody has cracked down on its distribution.
nopipesdfw
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^ Word, as an experienced psychedelic user, I feel that this one lacks the mental and physical "I'm going to die" feeling that I am so familiar with even if you pushed it to a ridiculous dose. That's no ultimatum of it being physically benign, but that does not mean a hilarious buzz word that got attached to it due to it's relative discovery on our time line means that it is physically dangerous!
Morninggloryseed
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Tried 4-AcO-DMT vial IM injection last night. Dose was 12mg. Full +++
Beautiful that way! Came on in two minutes...but other than that....it felt like it does when taken orally....perhaps more DMT-like.
Beautiful trip with entities all around watching me, and fixing my brain. Went to sleep on half my usual medication and no wine.
I feel in control again and I am going to work hard to stay with this.
My batch is 3 years old and has not lost any potency, and is still an off-white powder. I do keep it well frozen.
Beautiful that way! Came on in two minutes...but other than that....it felt like it does when taken orally....perhaps more DMT-like.
Beautiful trip with entities all around watching me, and fixing my brain. Went to sleep on half my usual medication and no wine.
I feel in control again and I am going to work hard to stay with this.
My batch is 3 years old and has not lost any potency, and is still an off-white powder. I do keep it well frozen.
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This was a method I've been considering trying, perhaps not for a while, but considering none the less. Anyway, what sort of dosage did you find works with IM?
Jblazingphoenix100
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This I'd like to know ^ I have been considering IM for a while as as new ROA... I would never IV anything, but IM seems OK...been there done that.
Morninggloryseed
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Added dosage (12mg)
PepperSocks
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I'm glad you had a good trip man. 
I've somewhat recently found that trying to remember something psychological I've learned always ends up making me lose it. The very act of trying to "hold on" to a lesson brings a form of tension and makes one lose the state.
I've actually found the best way to do it is to just let it slip into the subconscious.
Forget about it; that way you won't lose it.
I've somewhat recently found that trying to remember something psychological I've learned always ends up making me lose it. The very act of trying to "hold on" to a lesson brings a form of tension and makes one lose the state.
I've actually found the best way to do it is to just let it slip into the subconscious.
Forget about it; that way you won't lose it.
Jesusgreen
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Just speculation here, but am I the only one that's considered the idea that 4-AcO-DMT *does* turn into Psilocin, and the reason for its differences from mushrooms is the presence of Baeocystin (4-PO-NMT) in mushrooms (also Norbaeocystin, which I believe is 4-HO-NMT, not sure though).
Also, just for people who are wondering, if you have fumarate, which is what most vendors stock, it shouldn't be degrading into Psilocin until you eat it. If you have the HCl though I'd be wary.
Also, just for people who are wondering, if you have fumarate, which is what most vendors stock, it shouldn't be degrading into Psilocin until you eat it. If you have the HCl though I'd be wary.
Jesusgreen
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This still agrees with what I said, if you take say 20mg of 4-AcO-DMT, it isn't going to turn into 20mg of 4-HO-DMT, some will be lost, and so by weight 4-AcO-DMT is less potent. Also, 4-HO-DMT almost always comes in HCl form - which is once again more potent by weight, whereas fumarate, the form 4-AcO-DMT is most often sold in, is less potent.
Plus the trip duration and timing might differ due to the fact that it must be broken down into 4-HO-DMT in the first place. I personally believe if someone took say 30mg of 4-PO-DMT (Psilocybin) fumarate aside 30mg of 4-AcO-DMT fumarate, the results would be identical aside from the usual differences from trip to trip.
I do notice quite a bit of difference in effects from the other 4 subbed tryptamines I have tried.
The acetoxy version always seems lighter in effects - and for me, almost non-visual. If this is due to the metabolic conversion of the ACO-to-OH somehow slowing down the effects of the drug, or whatever else it could be, I have no idea. I really know very little about pharmacology and biochemical, enzymatic processes.
The acetoxy version always seems lighter in effects - and for me, almost non-visual. If this is due to the metabolic conversion of the ACO-to-OH somehow slowing down the effects of the drug, or whatever else it could be, I have no idea. I really know very little about pharmacology and biochemical, enzymatic processes.
Jesusgreen
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I am pretty sure it is, this is just a potency issue from the conversion of the chemicals. I assure you that 4-AcO-DMT is EXTREMELY visual when you up the dose, I'm talking your entire visual field blocked off by fractals, faces, eyes, not knowing whether your eyes are open or closed, etc.
MagickalKat777
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Seriously? Holy crap... Only thing that has ever done that to me was high dose 5-MeO-AMT...
What dose might be required to produce such visual awesomeness? I'm thinking I may really like this one if it produces visuals like that... May even make me skip out on 2C-T-2 if its that good.
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