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Benzos The Benzodiazepine MEGA THREAD - Direct Benzo Questions Here

I have a question regarding the after effects of benzos for the occasional user. I have been reading through all the valium vs kpin vs xanax forums and everyone talks about which one gets them more high or "feels more" from. I cannot find out anything regarding the withdrawal 2-3 days later. Right now I use xanax to come down from a late night of partying (coke). I fall asleep no problem, however over the course of the next 3 days (not taking anything at all...weekend warrior style) my sleep is not as good, I handle stress poorly, my memory is shot, and I am just moody as fuck. I feel this is from the xanax as I am not this way with a stick it out come down. Would using Valium for come downs be better or even kpins due to the longer half life. Do they all have bad rebounds? I am only familiar with Xanax. Any information is appreciated.
 
I'm going to the doctor tomorrow. He has me on valium and I ate those already. I'm thinking of ask about xanax or adderal you get the idea. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
 
mrcakes said:
I have a question regarding the after effects of benzos for the occasional user. I have been reading through all the valium vs kpin vs xanax forums and everyone talks about which one gets them more high or "feels more" from. I cannot find out anything regarding the withdrawal 2-3 days later. Right now I use xanax to come down from a late night of partying (coke). I fall asleep no problem, however over the course of the next 3 days (not taking anything at all...weekend warrior style) my sleep is not as good, I handle stress poorly, my memory is shot, and I am just moody as fuck. I feel this is from the xanax as I am not this way with a stick it out come down. Would using Valium for come downs be better or even kpins due to the longer half life. Do they all have bad rebounds? I am only familiar with Xanax. Any information is appreciated.
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it sounds like normal shit to me. Blow & xanax will do that to ya, but its so fun!
 
mrcakes said:
my sleep is not as good, I handle stress poorly, my memory is shot, and I am just moody as fuck. I feel this is from the xanax as I am not this way with a stick it out come down. Would using Valium for come downs be better or even kpins due to the longer half life. Do they all have bad rebounds? I am only familiar with Xanax. Any information is appreciated.
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You feel worse from the coke than the xanax because it releases more neurotransmitters and therefore throws homeo/neurostasis into imbalance. Avoid kpins as they hit extremely potently and cause worse memory problems. Valium on the other hand is a great one for this!
 
mike.vick said:
You feel worse from the coke than the xanax because it releases more neurotransmitters and therefore throws homeo/neurostasis into imbalance. Avoid kpins as they hit extremely potently and cause worse memory problems. Valium on the other hand is a great one for this!
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Why are you spouting nonsense? I see you in multiple threads saying shit that isn't true or is just flat out wrong.
 
Thanks everybody for not giving any suggestions for my appointment today! Got my 75 xanax bars, 120 15mg fast act adds, 50mg seroquel 3x day, and to top things off 15 norco . SO HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING?
 
Rectal Administration/Plugging Benzodiazepines

I KNOW THIS IS A VERY DISPUTED TOPIC

But here is my own experience with plugging benzos.

I have scripts for Xanax, klonopin, and Valium. I also have a very high tolerance (went through 1200mg of Valium and 120mg of Klonopin in about 5 days, did not experience blackouts but did have some fuzzy memories).

Back to the topic though. The Valium, orally, does absolutely nothing for me. The Kpins work nicely but again, not terribly strong anymore. I don't fuck with the Xanax because I do stupid shit and can't function.

In the interest of increasing my enjoyment of the weaker two, I tried rectal administration using a suspension in water with a food prep syringe.

It worked very, very well. I did have to use roughly the same doses (250mg Valium, 15mg Klonopin), ground finely and suspended as mentioned, and I was amazed that I actually experienced a rush similar to insufflating oxy. Obviously not as good (would be a nice mix though, however I am adamant about never touching opiates again). Kratom adds nicely to the effect (orally, of course), and a little caffeine. Drink some grapefruit juice or take cimetidine to slow down the metabolism of the active complex and relax.

The point is, at least for me, it worked very well. A little prep time and not the most comfortable method but l would prefer it over sublingual.

P.S. Please be responsible! Do not drive on benzos - ever -, don't be a jackass, and do not mix other depressants unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing.
 
Benzos are absorbed at amounts nearing 100% when taken orally so.. you don't have to put them in your ass.

If you want to enjoy benzos, you will want the compounds with short half lives. Klonopin and Valium, while useful for people who take these every day and want a therapeutic effect, will not get you high regularly. I could have taken 10 mg of klonopin when i was taking 3mg'/day and really not felt much. 10mg of xanax whne i was taking 3/mg a day, different story.
 
Plugging Benzodiazepines (Most of them I would imagine, plugging Midazolam/Brotizolam would be interesting) /shouldn't/ do much more (other than a rush) than taking them Orally or SubL. So... it is kinda like sniffing oxy. If you take it orally you get a longer duration, yet longer onset. Insufflated, faster onset, shorter duration, but there is a rush there. So... I guess it comes down to, do you want it to last longer or get a rush.
 
justinisup said:
Benzos are absorbed at amounts nearing 100% when taken orally so.. you don't have to put them in your ass.

If you want to enjoy benzos, you will want the compounds with short half lives. Klonopin and Valium, while useful for people who take these every day and want a therapeutic effect, will not get you high regularly. I could have taken 10 mg of klonopin when i was taking 3mg'/day and really not felt much. 10mg of xanax whne i was taking 3/mg a day, different story.
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I just administered 16mg xan and 12mg using my described method (although this time I added a little glycerin to the mix and I'm buzzing very hard right now... I never get that orally. Does this mean I will always do this? Hell no! Most of the time it is sublingual but, IMO, it definitely works well.
 
Tried last benzo I hadn't that's on the market, Nuctalon aka. Estazolam. On par ime with nitraz n temaz... very strong hypnotic... Took 8x2mg but also diaz alpraz lopraz oxaz n lyrica (gonna drop another 200 mg of the later. Just took a dose of Methylone plugged. .. sweetness.

I'll be back in a bit
 
Quick question about lorazepam..wud I be able to crush the pills and try and dissolve it in veg glycerin..my thought on this was maybe the glycerine can xtract the loraz out the binders and have a solution that I can sublungual for better absorption..or plugit or even dilute the solution and I.v.

And thought on if veg glycerin can dissolve benzos like ativan..I don't have any propylene glycol so I'm wonderinh if the glycerin will work
 
~QuirKyNai~ said:
Quick question about lorazepam..wud I be able to crush the pills and try and dissolve it in veg glycerin..my thought on this was maybe the glycerine can xtract the loraz out the binders and have a solution that I can sublungual for better absorption..or plugit or even dilute the solution and I.v.

And thought on if veg glycerin can dissolve benzos like ativan..I don't have any propylene glycol so I'm wonderinh if the glycerin will work
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no it won't work mate don't waste your lorazapams , oil sure you've heard this many many times before , but oral tablets are designed to be taken orally especially ones that aren't water soluble, not crushed up and snorted or crushing them and attempting to extract the main ingredient unless it's water soluble then you could do a CWE on it ... That's just my opinion tho , I'm not claiming to know I'm just going by research .
 
OldManBenzo said:
Thanks everybody for not giving any suggestions for my appointment today! Got my 75 xanax bars, 120 15mg fast act adds, 50mg seroquel 3x day, and to top things off 15 norco . SO HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING?
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Lmfao! Now get up and do something constructive!!!!! :) Hello, nice to meet you! (PS: Norcos Suck, and I run from Seroquel)
 
Personally, ahem, (Oh and Hi, It's Very Nice to Meet You All ! ) Whyyyyyyyyyyy do people use this stuff to get a "rush" >? !ugh that bothers me. I just need the therapeutic properties, i guess... :| Otherwise I'd be camping right now :| Besides, benzos do not give me any kind of rush, it also appears that i have a "super-tolerance". Which sucks because I'll be on them for a few years until my disease kills me. . .That said, I Love My Benzo Though!!!! WoooHoooo!
 
Drderms said:
no it won't work mate don't waste your lorazapams , oil sure you've heard this many many times before , but oral tablets are designed to be taken orally especially ones that aren't water soluble, not crushed up and snorted or crushing them and attempting to extract the main ingredient unless it's water soluble then you could do a CWE on it ... That's just my opinion tho , I'm not claiming to know I'm just going by research .[/QUOTE

The BEST way to take benzos is to dissolve it under your tongue. The longer it stays there, the better! :) Try it! (At First) It won't be great or even good-enough, for a regular IV user, but it's your life! If you can get to this place in your mind, where YOU want the (relief and control), when you also want to, be as normal as possible, deliver your medicine into your body without needles or smoking or snorting! and not go near your rear!!!!! I say stick it under your tongue NOW! (Like a normal person) :) <3
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