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Hi to all,
First post as just received 250mg of Diclazepam powder, have used benzos that are available on script regularly so wanted to try this. My question is how long on average does it take to notice the onset of the effects, I weighed out 5mg of the crystals at 11:15 and swallowed them inside a capsule then, its now half an hour later and not feeling any different yet? Will update if I notice a change!
Thanks
 
Diclazepam how long after taking is the onset of effects?

Hi to all,
First post as just received 250mg of Diclazepam powder, have used benzos that are available on script regularly so wanted to try this. My question is how long on average does it take to notice the onset of the effects, I weighed out 5mg of the crystals at 11:15 and swallowed them inside a capsule then, its now half an hour later and not feeling any different yet? Will update if I notice a change!
Thanks

Now 1300 hours and nothing but a bit wobbly, still clear head and no warm benzo feelings so have taken another 12mg swallowed in a capsule. Surely this should work?
Any answers to onset time experiences appreciated.
 
I posted this in another section of the forum but thought i might get more answers here.

What are the chances of getting a supervised benzo (diaz) script off the dr for a taper, im uk based (northern ire) and in my early 20's? Been on and off rc benzos for 3 years now, longest time off them being about 2 months id say then I slowly slip back into full blown dependency quite sporadically. I have plenty of rc benzos to taper with but every time I get down to around 0.5mg diclaz I start to struggle and end up going on a mini binge taking me weeks to get back to a lower dose, im sick of this seemingly never ending cycle!

I want benzos out of my life for good, they have caused me to isolate myself due to anxiety issues or being to fucked to give a shit about anything including uni work and maintaining healthy relationships. I think having the support of medical professionals behind me id be able to stick to the taper and wouldn't feel as secretive and dodgy as taking rc benzos and keeping it a secret from firends/family.

Whats the worst that could happen? Id be labelled a a druggy with addictive behaviours and risk not being prescribed certain medicines in future incase I abuse them and maybe be turned away completely? Im guessing my Dr hasn't a clue about rc benzos so maybe I should print off some info about them?
 
Hell guys, first of off i used to be addicted to Etizolam for years and had a full clean year sober since the, this year iv had the odd benzo or two but nothing much, i used to be an alcoholic and only take Etizolam (Ettilam) over one weekend a month when i feel the peer pressure of friends to drink, i can easily take 85 etiz over the weekend to keep me chilled, i remember when i could take 2mg and be asleep lol, is this a consequence of being addicted years ago and having the odd dabble with the super potents every few month? Do i have a very high tolerance, iv not taken any for the past three weeks sticking to my one weekend a month again so nothing stupid happens, i mean i know you could get tolerance but not this much, last month i took F-lam because i couldn't find Etiz(Only buy pharma) Has anyone else had experiences where they were addicted in the past and can now take copiates amounts to get a nice feeling?

Fuck U brain :(
 
Well, for myself I've been habituated to Klonlpin for nearly a decade, originally prescribed by my methadone clinic's physician! 4- then 3-mg/day, and have abused RC benzos in the past, taking maybe 2-mg of flubromazolam in a night, or even 25-mg etiz, 3 to 6-mg clonazolam (the king of benzos imo.)

I've had many excursions like that but always kept them to a few days at most before returning to my normal, prescribed 3-mg Klonlpin/day or 60-mg diazepam, with maybe a little etiz to take an edge off.

Now I'm at 27-mg/diazepam and not taking / craving the RCs, but they're temporarily out of reach so that helps. I'm hoping to taper to 5-mg/day diazepam, maybe less and hold there a good while. I want to be easy on my GABA system. I've beat it hard, I'd like to be easier on it with the taper. I may require a prn 'script of something, maybe just something like hydroxyzine or propanolol (sp?) to assist with the physical sensations of anxiety. The mental part I seem to have been very effective at limiting with extensive, intensive therapy - nine years worth, twice a month (9 * 24 * $100) + serious commitment = what it took to best my emotional anxiety. I had it very bad. We'll see after my taper is finished and time rolls by how truly effective was the therapy (CBT /ACT - acceptance and commitment therapy.)

I still get great effects from clonazolam at 1-mg, and Flubro-Azo @1-mg absolutely kicks may ass. I seem to be in the minority though, most seem to build longer lasting tolerances. I do not get inter-dose w/ds even after 3-mg clonazolam over three days and no diazepam for those three days. A couple weeks off any benzo and my tolerance to that one only drops significantly. It does go back up quickly, and that has limited my use of RCs. Besides I'm tapering off... So haven't touched the RCs in well over a month.

They were easy to put down while at 30-mg valium in my taper. Just a couple night's insomnia, and the 30-mg Diaz is all I require to feel fine. Guess I'm "fortunate" in some way. I know this will not be the case when my diazepam dose is lower.

But my best advice is don't try to figure out your tolerance reduction, just get tapered down and chuck out the RCs. If you have a legit prescription maybe try to hold onto a 7- 10 day/month "rescue" dosage of Xanax or Valium if you have panic issues or severe agoraphobia (e.g. #7 1-mg xanax / month) but really therapy is the way to go to get permanent, "instant access" tools learned for use to abate or eliminate panic and anxiety. Diet, exercise can't be overstated, imo.

That was general ^^, not for anyone in specific.
 
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Sick, anxious 5 mg to 4 mg librium

I posted on the wrong thread, at first, sorry.


I have posted earler explaining I take max doses of two antidepressants and adderall. I also have for 18 months taken librium. From 40 mg which I took by mistake, I easily (still depressed, of course) went two 10 mg daily, then for a year just 5 mg. Now to my shock I cannot go from 4.5 to 4. I had a pharmacist turn the lowest dose capsules (5 mg.) into 1 mg., and .5 mg.

I am very sick, pretty severe anxiety, some panic. Does anyone even take librium any more? Is this even possible? Can it be the %, not the amount; in other words I have gone from 5 to 4 in 10 days -- 20%. Help please -- tell me I am not losing any more marbles than usual -- and remind me this is wthdrawal.

I shouldn't complain. The guy who chemically discovered librium (and valium) lost most of his family in the Holocaust. Don​
 
i am currently on ativan .5mg twice a day. sometimes i take more than 2 a day, some days i dont take any. anyway, i have a long history with xanax. and ive heard people complaining of hallucinating on ativan and some other benzos.. the scary thing for me is i started taking xanax daily, (between 1mg and 4) since i was 15 (im 19 now) one day i noticed that walls started to breathe and move in and out, my carpet would pop up at me and start to spin, weird hallucinations. anyway, whenever i take ANY benzo, it all goes away like 100%. i have a feeling xanax caused this because now not only do i have that, i also was diagnosed with Generalized anxiety disorder, and Major depressive disorder. i was fine before and during the time i was on any benzos. anybody think that they could be the cause of these psychotic symptoms? ive heard of drug induced schitzophrenia, but im afraid to tell my doc about all the xanax, because i need my benzo to function in most parts of life,
EDIT: i also took adderall in massive doses to stay up for days, and took xanax in massive doses to calm down and fall asleep. symptoms got worse coming down on adderall and on weed.
 
I got some diazepam. At least, I'm told it's diazepam, I trust the source and it's what I expected in terms of effects. Other than some horrible RC benzo experiences and some enjoyable but not noteworthy experiences with clonazepam I haven't tried much else in this department. What are the odds of getting a reliable ID on the pills? Is that something pillreport is good for or is that just MDMA?

Anyway, I took 1 (supposedly 10mg) and felt good, it was subtle but that's in line with past experience. I took another 10 mg maybe 2 hours later and it seemed to increase effects nicely. I felt sober a couple of minutes ago but then seemingly came up again. I'm taking Omeprazole which I'm told may prolong effects. Also had 2mg Suboxone today. What kind of doses do light / occasional users go for? up to 20 mg seems very enjoyable but I'm all too aware of how thin the line is between a good dose and a blackout dose with some of them.
 
XANAX

I take 1 - 3 mg on two or three days a week, once a day. Then I go for the rest of the week without taking any.

I'm a former heroin addict, clean for 3 some years now. I am very very aware of the way addiction sneaks up on you.

Basically, I would like to hear from a former addict what this usage pattern looks like. I feel I may be heading for trouble, so I skipped taking any last week at all. I noticed there was a definite pissed off feeling I did not get to take it, just being upset about it because why shouldn't I.

I also notice that the day after using xanax, there is an afterglow almost where I am content not taking it. On the second day, I feel normal again.

Can someone give me am opinion? Thanks.
 
XANAX

I take 1 - 3 mg on two or three days a week, once a day. Then I go for the rest of the week without taking any.

I'm a former heroin addict, clean for 3 some years now. I am very very aware of the way addiction sneaks up on you.

Basically, I would like to hear from a former addict what this usage pattern looks like. I feel I may be heading for trouble, so I skipped taking any last week at all. I noticed there was a definite pissed off feeling I did not get to take it, just being upset about it because why shouldn't I.

I also notice that the day after using xanax, there is an afterglow almost where I am content not taking it. On the second day, I feel normal again.

Can someone give me am opinion? Thanks.

Fine for now...
 
The biggest issue I want to avoid is having to take it every day, and have the monkey on my back.

4 day breaks and moderate dosages (never exceeding 3 mg) over the weekend should be good?

It really helps me decompress after a long week of working 12 hour days.

What are the early warning signs of withdrawal and dependency I should heed?
 
The biggest issue I want to avoid is having to take it every day, and have the monkey on my back.

4 day breaks and moderate dosages (never exceeding 3 mg) over the weekend should be good?

It really helps me decompress after a long week of working 12 hour days.

What are the early warning signs of withdrawal and dependency I should heed?
If you're actually following that regimen, you'll be a-okay.... like, seriously.

Warning signs and red flags would be... "well, taking 4mg is no big deal" and feeling the need for more because you don't get as high. but if you have good self control, it won't be an issue.
 
/What is Xanax XR like? Doesn't it seem like a shitty version of clonazepam?

Xanax is awesome for instant onset and relief, then its gone and you're fine. Which is fine, except that we have a long acting potent benzo around like clonazepam. I haven't tried it but can and I'm a little curious.
 
/What is Xanax XR like? Doesn't it seem like a shitty version of clonazepam?

Xanax is awesome for instant onset and relief, then its gone and you're fine. Which is fine, except that we have a long acting potent benzo around like clonazepam. I haven't tried it but can and I'm a little curious.

Like, shitty xanax... Kind of. It's nicer because it lasts longer.

I hate xanax, I love clonazepam though. It's just my username because...i don't even know actually.
 
If you're actually following that regimen, you'll be a-okay.... like, seriously.

Warning signs and red flags would be... "well, taking 4mg is no big deal" and feeling the need for more because you don't get as high. but if you have good self control, it won't be an issue.

Well thank you for those words, I feel I can never ever let my guard down around drugs. I realize people take 2 - 6 mg ever day prescribed and only go through short periods of discomfort after stopping.

I suppose after my stint with heroin I am a bit of a hypochondriac when it comes to signs of withdrawal and dependency.

What is tolerance like with the stuff? At the level I'm taking it sporadically, is it something to worry about? The muscle relaxant properties and sedation as well as completely killing my nervous worries are fantastic, and I'd hate to loose those effects due to tolerance.
 
Well thank you for those words, I feel I can never ever let my guard down around drugs. I realize people take 2 - 6 mg ever day prescribed and only go through short periods of discomfort after stopping.

I suppose after my stint with heroin I am a bit of a hypochondriac when it comes to signs of withdrawal and dependency.

What is tolerance like with the stuff? At the level I'm taking it sporadically, is it something to worry about? The muscle relaxant properties and sedation as well as completely killing my nervous worries are fantastic, and I'd hate to loose those effects due to tolerance.


Tolerance is tricky but it's fast... 2-3 months your tolerance will be quite high if you take them almost every day.... at your rate, can't really say.

Most people try to do what you do and fail... like myself but if you keep to it, I think you'd be fine... this is only in my experience, though.
 
Going to eventually skim/read through this thread but figured I'd just post first and wait for responses while I do.

I tend to have generalized anxiety throughout the day and doctor initially gave me a prescription for .5mg Ativan once a day before bed (was suffering from sleep issues). Afterwards, he suggested an SSRI (Paxil?) but coworker told me to stay away from SSRIs. He thought I should continue with Ativan if I thought it had worked. I ended up asking the him about Valium (since Ativan isn't a long half-life benzo) and he prescribed me 5mg 1x a day.

He also seemed to be willing to prescribe Klonopin when I asked but I had read that 1mg of Klonopin = 10mg of Valium and figured it'd be easier to split the 5mg Valium in half and take every other day or something due to fears of dependence/withdrawal after reading peoples' experiences on different forums.

Is there a common consensus if one is "safer" than the other for long term low-dose maintenance for anxiety?

I do try and do some cardio 3x a week; can't lift weights due to a recurring wrist issue and surgery coming up soon. Any other recommendations for natural/herbal solutions? Friend told me she's scared of Benzo's and recommended Adderall but I'm sure my doctor would be like "Adderall? Wth?". Unfortunately, smoking weed isn't an option due to work. I already had the Valium prescription filled but have yet to pick it up. Could possibly just tell the pharmacy I don't want it and go another route and speak with my doctor again.
 
Hello, i don't have a question, only want to write something i experience like a benzo-daily-user for 2 years. (started 3 years ago).

i was taking 6mg of Alprazolam each day, to forget the coke... it was effective, but i win a tolerance to benzos.. a very good tolerance,, and the WD were/are horrible.

If my english isn't good , sorry, i really speak spanish.

So when i was taking 6mg of Alplax each day i can detox from coke and others drugs, but i spent my days doing nothing, talking with nobody,... listless? maybe... i win an addiction, and depression. i were months and months in the bed... i decided i have to leave the high dose of benzos, so i switched to 4mg clonazepam/day... with too much WD , slowly i was taking 3,5mg a day, 3 months later, 3mg, like 2 or 3 months later 2,5.. and so to 1,5mg. at this point the depression and WD were increasing several. I started taking Olanzapine 2,5mg and then 5mg with Sertraline 50mg.... now with this help i am not depressed, i can work, i can do socials, etc... currently taking 0,5 Clonazepam/day. 2,5mg Olanzapine and 100mg Sertraline...

well... this is some of my history with benzos. thanks
 
I just got RX'ed Clonazepam. 1mg/day.

Fuck. Yes. <3

It's been a long time coming, and I needed this. Long story short, I've been taking benzos every day for about 4 years. Had a script for Ativan, then Xanax, then I got taken off the Xanax, started using lots of Etizolam (pellets and powder) then switched to Alprazolam liquid, rapid tapered off of it using Diazepam, then got put on Gabapentin to deal with the PAWS. Then I went back to taking benzos (mostly Etizolam), discovered Clonazolam and used it daily for a long time, recently I've been using Flubromazolam...

And honestly I'm tired of fucking with these RC benzos and feeling like a junkie. If I'm gonna use these drugs I may as well have my habit overseen by a licensed practitioner of medicine right?

Plus, I feel like Clonazepam is the best benzo currently RX'ed in the US. Synergizes very well with my Gabapentin, plus a dab or two and also a few beers...

Fuck yeah.
 
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