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substance synergies

Nitrous and Salvia
Nitrous and Alcohol
Alcohol and Weed, in that order (although most would disagree).
I think nitrous deserves the Bluelight Synergetic Substance Award!
 
N2O Bluelight Synergetic Substance Award! ha, ha!!!
I actually made a neck ornament from a used bulb which I used to hang on my neck five years ago. Now I have it attached to the zipper of my bag. It sets off metal detectors - that's it's job - as a decoy to detract attention from the actual hidden stash.
Once I brought my canister to a rave with about 10 boxes of bulbs. The bouncer actually found the bulbs and shook them.
"Ah tic-tacs!!!" he said. But he let me in with them anyway (bless him) and I must say, that night turned out to be one of the best ever.
I also had a "donald duck" trip. This was years ago. Ah, the pleasure of memories - lucky for me, it's only my short term memory that's completely fucked, he he.
[ 02 April 2002: Message edited by: Disco Diablo ]
 
Fry-d: There is enough information that the papers could take out of context from any area of the whole drug discussion side of Bluelight, including this thread or a thousand others, that would do the site harm. In fact you've done the exact same thing by quoting me out of context without reference to the later post, in which basically explains that dosage is completely personal and the need for people to know how much of a drug people are comfortable with, via research and careful discrete experimentation. This of course is the harm minimisation side, but it can easily be omitted by the papers or anyone else for that matter and turned into a beat up. Now i'm not advocating poly drug use, and you're right taking a combination of drugs is more harmful to your health, primarily for the fact that you are taking more drugs than if you were just doing one. And finally you talk of a proven list of safe substances with which to synergise, if dosage is at all mentioned then there can be no such thing, as all psychoactives effect all people differently. I think i'm going to have a dosage disclaimer (maybe Bluelight should have one as well, especially in trip reports), stating that dosage is not concrete and what works for me, will definately harm others..... maybe then people will stop calling me an ill informed, spreader of dangerous poly drug use bluelighter (which i'm not, as opposed to those who harp on about how wickid an actually contraindictive drug combinations is.... these are the people who deserve your ire at presenting infomation on bluelight that the media could use as ammo against us)
 
I think generally most of the people on this board are smart enough to know who to believe, and who to think "what a load of shite".
Its pretty obvious...
Anyway, I have a ton, but I guess i'll add my favourite so far.
Two experiences, similar outcome: 2c-t-7 & MDA, and 2c-t-7 & MDMA.
I'm a very visual person, I love my psychedelics so I wondered what this combo would be like. Apparently it is very dangerous to build the peaks, so I had the 2c when I felt the MD wearing off (although only ever so slightly)
The first time (with the MDA) I had 5mg snorted, and the second time (which I will talk about) I had 7.5mg snorted.
By the way, little disclaimer about 2c-t-7... I had this weighed absolutely precisely... please DO NOT EYEBALL DOSES because you'll get yourself in trouble. Big trouble. Go to Erowid and read about the 2c-t-7 deaths.
Ok, so I had had 2 MDMA pills and they were starting to wear off. I decided to try the 2c-t-7 (I was in a safe environment, at home with friends at hand) and snorted it. The pain CAN NOT be described. Its out of control. I can only warn you and say be prepared for about 15 - 20 mintutes of gut wrenching pain. But after that.... *phew*... ;)
I was starting at the wall paper and it started spiriling into a 3D landscape. A forest started growing through the little turning cogs that had formed, then flowers sprouted and every pettle was a different colour. Before this experience I had thought these visuals just wern't possible, but it seems they are. The feelings were very nice, but everything was masked by the amazing visuals. None were negative, although they were so overwealming that my friend started to panic for about 15 minutes. He then relaxed and accepted it.
We went down to the beach and lay down and looked at the stars, then a little pac man started eating them. It was crazy... I can't explain how phenominal it was.
Anyway, the comedown was a little sketchy, and I popped a valium after everything had worn off and slept for 12 hours. But it was amazing, something i'll never forget.
 
sounds fucking lovely horsey... when you're getting visuals like that, you know you're in kings country... i too am a very visual person, unfortunately i can only imagine the bliss you speak of.
fry-d...
Poly drug use is dangerous and is worse for your body there is no escaping that.
this statement goes for all drug use. eating two pills instead of one is dangerous and worse for your body and there is no escaping that.
this thread is not about poly drug use, although it does have mention of such things in it.
it has not turned into a 'look how many different chemicals i took and luckily woke up the next day' competition.
the person who posted this
Multiple hits of liquid, 40 bulbs and smitchon of weed, 33 beers, champagne, vodka, whisky---> my number one drug experience with out of this world visuals is obviously a little off topic. the information he/she posted is not what this thread about, and is plainly uselss. don't attack my thread over it. talk to the person responsible.
you obviously have little experience with the media. they will do and say what they want about bluelight. odds are they will get away with it too. there are guides on this site to purifying and injecting drugs. there are guides to getting off on cough syrup. information on the "date rape" drug (rohypnol). information on pregnancy and drugs. a guide to narcotic withdrawl. and many more guides & faqs on how to administer drugs to ones self.
if the media decide to give bluelight a bad name, imagine what they could do with the things i just listed. i can see "guides to the date rape drug, which could easily be used to assist a reader in getting the chemical and using it", i can see "teaches anyone with a computer how to shoot up". "details how to getting drunk on cough syrup" which has extremely seedy and desperate connotations in its self... i don't need to go any further. if you haven't got it yet, you're a lost cause.
i'm not defending this thread anymore, people who've got problems with it can email the moderators, or me if they want.
[ 03 April 2002: Message edited by: apollo ]
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Please don't feel you have to defend your thread apollo, it's making you rather nasty, and defensiveness makes it harder to have a subjective view on things.
People are not attacking you here. Myself and a few others have simply expressed a concern about this thread, this bares no disrespect or disrepute on you simply because you began the thread. Your original post at least included some form of disclaimer.
 
sorry entropope, i know i got a little worked up there.
it was my view on everything in this thread (and thus subjectivity) that led me to be so defensive. bit of a downward spiral.
anyways, continue the discussion people.
 
*all user accounts provided in the interests of harm minimisation*
A couple of less common ones that are enjoyable:
LSD + Mushrooms - trip ABSOLUTE balls. Open eye hallucinations – seeing little men running around, symbols, patterns – your brain is just overloaded with a new sense of reality. Definitely recommended if you like to trip hard. No cross tolerance, they add together and spank you hard. Pulling nitrous is the most beautiful and profound experience, verging on indescribable.
5MeO-Dipt + MDMA - The 5 MeO makes you very "jittery" and combined with MDMA gives massive body rushes. Usually mix around 8-10mg + half a pill, but that's enough to have very intense choppedness. Nausea is a definate problem with 5MeO, but if you can work through the body load it becomes kinda pleasureable. Apparently very "sexual" for some, while others are trapped between diarrohea and vomitting (akin to DXM bodyload).
DXM + Nitrous + Weed - At higher plateaus (eg 10/11 mg/kg) i find this combination not really that "pleasureable", more a way to fuck yourself up seriously and re-create brain damage. You get dissociation (ie you legs and arms feel like they're floating above you, you can see the room from 6 inches above your head), your tactile sensations change (eg cloth feels like water, water feels warm and furry) and the "hangover" last a good 2 days (if not longer). This combination also has the real bad side effect of extended impotence. A trip to build character rather than to "have fun".
MDMA + GHB/1,4B - Usually take g or 1,4B after the peak of the pill is wearing off. Have to be careful with dose as just a little too much g can make you pass out and miss the good stuff. The effects intensify the pill, make your body feel fantastic, your brain goes crazy and you will fuck anything, anywhere, anyhow. Good fun near running water and naked bitchez :P.
Alcohol + Cocaine - extremely good synergy. A good mindset, the lines taste nice, and it's oh so ASX/fashion shoot.
Alcohol + LSD - go extremely well together. The alcohol makes you laugh more, relaxes you more (allowing more hallucination) and is just generally awesome fun. Really hard to hold it together for public activity at high doses though. A good combo for heading to the casino hehe.
MDMA + 2CB - the 2cb just opens up a whole new chapter of hallucinations from MDMA. Tracers, laser beams splitting, stretching and bending, swirling patterns of colours, it adds heaps to the experience. Had one of my best nights out ever on this combo.
MDA + LSD - noticeably different to a normal candyflip. The "emotive" aspect of MDMA is definately lessened, and there are more intense visuals. An extremely good combo for listening to psy and watching the ceiling. It also lasts nearly 2 hours longer than you'd get outta MDMA.
Weed + Cocaine - the effect of a couple of lines after being stoned is enjoyable. Clears your head up immensily, makes you buzz hard, and the drip feels nice. The good morning combo.
Meth + MDMA + K + LSD + GHB - It can be done, and it is exttemely enjoyable. Very messy: your body is getting pulled all sorts of different ways. This combo can really push your body's limits, so make sure you have an in-depth knowledge and a high degree of comfort with all chemicals involved, and with your body's limits.
There are way more combos, it's interesting to hear other people's and whether they enjoyed them.
But, please if you read this thread and see stuff you haven't tried or didn't know existed, please don't rush in, start on a low dose and research as much as possible. I have friends who've taken DXM and MDMA, I've had Alcohol + GHB, etc - extremely dangerous combos that could have killed us because we didn't research enough or thought that we would be indestructible.
There are plenty of synergies to explore, but remember your safety is a more important consideration than going hard. *Stares jealously at horse* hehe :S
 
OFF TOPIC:
disco diablo: yes yes and more yes to that fantastical feeling on mushrooms.
in my case its related to the mandy moore - wanna be with you song ;)
even now 1 year later i love that song and get rushes from it :)
 
i can't believe no one has mentioned this...
ketamine + G
on a fairly low level of both (100-150mg ketamine and a 'comfrotable' G-Dose + topups) i found it to be exactly like a nice low level, controllable, unfucky acid trip. completely calm, contented, happy, and just a hint of nice controllable visuals (thats for me at least, and i usually dont get a lot of visuals on acid) best thing is how much you can topup until you feel perfect. mix some k in with water and just take sips if you feel you want a bit more dissociation/headfuck, or a tiny bit of g if you want a bit more sloshedness.
i wouldn't, however, ever suggest doing this on your own. from my experience with k its easy to be fucked and forget what the hell your doing, and it wouldn't be naive to think even an experienced G user could decide they really do need a 40ml G topup. have someone not kfucked to make sure your not topping up stupidly.
ps. i did a brief check through erowid, didn't find any material stating this to be an unhealthy combo. please correct me if i'm wrong oh ye worldly mod's ;)
 
RE: MEDIA - 2 quick points:
1) It is hard to worry about the media too much on a site where they can post something then quote themselves. Last time I saw a quote from here, it was by a greenlighter on theire second post. Who's to say the journalist wasnt that greenlighter?
2) You may as well ban any discussion on polydrug usage if youre overtly worried about the media - most of any of the polydrug threads will have a couple of *extremely damaging* quotes that could be used.
That said, I'm still with entropope... no point encouraging them.
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To go back on topic, I often find that my perfect combo happens when on that ONE perfect nang, as other drugs come on. For instance, you candyflip, have a blunt to kick the trip and pill in, then go the nang - my entire night can be worth it for that one 30 second stretch :)
 
Codeine + Alcohol + Methamphetamine: Ok, having gone back to this combination in moderation, having taken 60mg codeine, followed by a few shots of vodka, then a tiny line, possibly 1/4 of a point of meth. Repeating throughout the night every 3/4 hours. This is very very euphoric and in my opinion comes close to rivalling MDMA for euphoria, but with a less forced and more natural feel to it. Start out low with the dosages for all of the ingredients, and build up from there slowly.
-plaz out-
 
Doesn't codeine have one of those stickers with the red triangle that says keep clear of alcohol? Back in the day (when i was young & stupid and had found any 'class A, hard drugs' yet!) i used to drink some beam with a couple... ok 4 codral day tablets. I only had a third of a half size and i was completely fairsnickened, so much so that i rode the 75 tram from hawthorn, to the city then back to camberwell and then back to the city! It seemed to amplify the effects of the alcohol much as a antihistine such as zyrtec would. I guess if ya was the meth then getting that schlargened would be nigh on impossible, even so if people are doing codeine, if you have alcohol don't have to much or else you'll be so munted you'll think the toilet is a wonderful place for swimming. ;)
 
LSD + WEED
:D
it was MAD! the weed increased the visuals, increased the length and increased the intensity.
i found that whatever i wanted to think about, i could make appear in front of me somehow out of the surroundings. trees were becoming whatever i wanted them to!
not to mention the fantastical idea of the munchies while tripping, i had SO MUCH FUN eating MnMs :)
 
LOL
LSD + Weed +M n M's = A whole lotta FUN!
eheheh
but yeah the weed FULLY enhanced the experience and is a combination that i will definately try again!
ohohoh also, LSD + Bulbs = wo0o0o0o0o0o baby!! ehehehe I've never seen so many nang whores in one room! :P
 
This thread is quickly degrading into a "Take all the drugs you can think of at once" thread...
Basically, this thread was started to talk about specific substance synergies, and what they did for you, not to dick-measure, and say what you've had lots of together...
So please guys, keep it serious and as safe as possible...
[ 24 April 2002: Message edited by: Dante ]
 
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