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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread and FAQ v17.0 + v18.0

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I definitely could give a rats ass about trying to sell them I just want to be comfortable but I have heard if you dose is too low. I would like to take it twice a day like once in the morning and once in the afternoon. I just don't know where I will be comfortable. I am seeing that a lot of people on low doses are tired all the time and I don't want that I sleep enough as it is but I felt really good at first. Also my Dr is giving me the strips that dissolve under my tongue and I cant help but spit it out it doesn't seem like it all dissolved before I had to spit. I am wondering if I am feeling withdraws because enough didn't get in my system but again IDK maybe I am just speeding and it is not the fun kind BTW I'm a Mam not a Sir ;)
 
If you have issues dissolving it, then that would be more likely your problem. That dose should more then comfortably hold you, BUT you only get the full dose (or anything close) if everything actually dissolves.

Lots of users swallow before fully dissolved and have the same issue. Most of the people I met that found subs didn't work for them were doing something wrong. Have faith, suboxone works well for most users (in terms of treating w/d).
 
I'm getting ready to start sub therapy, maybe long-term. I was at rehab in january and told myself if I relapse afterwards I should stop fucking around and get on maintenance until I am able to rehabilitate my mind to the point of where my addict-brain is less in control of my actions. After relapsing a few times now in the past month I'm finally getting my induction appointment in 5 days. I am grateful for this site and this thread for being such a great resource and community to help us poor addicts make the best decision for ourselves.
My habit is about one bundle a day of east coast #4 H. Maybe 4 mg of sub a day is a good place to start (2mg x 2)?
Thanks.
 
^ You might need a bit more at first to keep the withdrawals away, but after a few days you could drop down to the desired dose. With a habit like yours the first few days might be uncomfortable, and I've found that no matter the dose there is no way to avoid that. So don't go taking 16mg if 8mg doesn't help at first, because it's not going to help more. Some people might think it does at first but that's usually because it takes a few hours to fully work, so if they redose 2 hours later then start feeling better it's probably the first dose just finally working fully, and not the next dose that's making it work more. So wait a good 24 hours before starting the suboxone, and if 4mg doesn't help you enough then take 2mg more every 2-3 hours until it does, but I would stop after 8mg if it doesn't since if that doesn't cut it then no dose will at that time, and it will just take another day or 2 before you are all good.

two4tyler said:
I just started suboxone today and I am freaking out I can't tell if they gave me too much or not enough. I can't find any answers anywhere! It sounds like you guys know what you are talking about so I figured I would try and ask if you don't mind. I took 4mg every 2 hrs sublingually today and topped off at 12 and I felt good when I left that was 6 and 1/2 hrs ago now I can't tell if I am in withdrawal or they gave me too much. I am shaking again sweating hot and cold heart is beating fast as crap and I feel super crappy I never felt like tired or relaxed today what is going on is it too high or too low I seriously feel like I am going down hill fast! Please help I go back in the morning and I really just want to feel normal again. BTW I am coming off 60mg of OC's a day for 1.5years Thanks
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Sounds like too high of a dose. If your habit was 60mg of oxycodone then 2mg of suboxone is equal to that, so you are taking a dose of suboxone that's equivalent to way more than that. So now you have 2 options. You can drop down to a lower dose, or you can stay at that dose and allow your body to adjust to it, but beware that this would also mean that your tolerance would be increased a lot, and when it would come time to come off of it you will more likely regret having been on such a high dose.

It's usually best to take as little as you can to take the withdrawals away, and if it doesn't help with cravings then take a little bit more at a time until it does. Because although you only need a little bit to take away the withdrawals in your case, that wouldn't really help if you still crave a lot and you relapse due to it, so while 'less is more' is usually true that doesn't mean jack if you keep relapsing due to being on a low dose. But with your low tolerance you will probably find that 2mg is enough to both keep the withdrawals away and help with your cravings. And if that dose doesn't hold you the full 24hrs then you can split it or take 2mg in the morning and 1-2mg at night (1mg would be fine for withdrawals but 2 might be better for cravings).
 
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Buprenorphine said:
Hey Guys first post here.
Anyway. I have been on Suboxone for 4 years almost 5.. So for the most part I use to take the tablet 8/2 the orange one. Then I went to the Strip like most did and ever since I been on this Strip 8/2 it sux. So I just found about this new Zubsolv or whatever.. Does anybody know what the price would be estimate for 50 a month of the 5.7 zubsolv's. Anyway how would I go by telling my doctor I want to switch to this new formulation and also if I take 8/2 subs how do they know how much of the 5.7 zubsolvs to put me on a month? Any ideas guys on these questions?
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Well, My doctor switched me to the new zubsolvs and boy m I so excited. Im on two 5.7 a day and the pills are tiny they are awersome. The work alot better for me and are alot more useful. So just letting everyone know def try to see if your doctor can rx zubsolv
 
marienbad said:
Let's talk about suboxone and sex.

So, I'm a guy. I've been taking 2mg Suboxone daily since last September (I am small/have a naturally small tolerance, so 2mg/day is plenty for me and I even still feel a buzz/big mood lift when I take my doses). Everything is pretty fantastic EXCEPT it's really hard to cum within a few hours (sometimes as much as 5 or 6 hours) after my last dose. I take 1mg twice a day, typically, say, the first at noon and the second at 6pm. But this is throwing a wrench into my sex life with my girlfriend, and I can't always predict when we will or won't have sex so as to wait to take the sub until after, etc. It's really frustrating and there's few things worse than having my girlfriend tired and sore and me still trying to get off. Even worse is when we have to stop sometimes and I still haven't finished, people call it "blue balls" and joke about it but it makes me feel seriously depressed. It's sometimes even hard to keep a hard-on going if I've taken sub too recently, and this is even more embarrassing somehow.

It's also annoying because it's unpredictable. Sometimes I can take my sub like usual and still cum quickly 2 hours after a dose, but a lot of times it will take an ungodly amount of time for me to cum unless I wait AT LEAST 4 hours after the dose. What can I do?

I wanna bring this up to my sub doc next time but I'm afraid he'll just say there's not much that can be done. What do you say? Serious responses only.
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Well I can say that I been on Bup forever and I never had any problem with that but... I can suggest getting some extenze or some type or penis pill. Not to make it grow that shit dont work for that However I have heard that it gives you a great erection and helps blood flow down there. Or try to see if you can look up some natrual ways to increase blood flow for your guy. All this will def work it will help you cum 4 sure
 
Does anyone get their generic Subutex script from Wal-Mart or Sams Club? If so can you tell me what brand they usually give you?

I've been at Walgreens for my subs and a year or so ago they switched to the Hi Tech generics exclusively, which was fine until now because I may not have insurance for a small period of time and will be tapering off which is nearly impossible to do with these super tiny little things. I know it can vary regionally or store to store but was hoping someone could let me know what brand their local WM carries.
 
I'm weighing my options as far as quitting is concerned. I shoot heroin and have been for the past several months, everyday. My boyfriend gave me three and a half Suboxen strip things. Idk how to take them or anything. I also doubt that three and a half is enough to work my way to sobriety. I'm deathly terrified of the withdrawals. I don't think I'm strong enough to face it cold turkey because the chills and nausea and restlessness and scary fast heartbeat and complete discomfort not to mention puking and diarrhea is not something I handle like a big girl.. I'm not strong enough. I always break down and get high even if I have to do dishonorable and degrading things to get it, its worth it to avoid WD.
 
So if I choose Suboxen, how does it work and do regular doctors prescribe it? Also, Methadone? What's the deal w/ that? Does either one get you high? Or just make you feel better?
 
I have been back on Bupe for 2 years and with the last year being at a dose of 1mg, and I am feeling the need to taper off and be done with it soon because I have not touched a full agonist opiate for a long time.

Thing is I was not responsible and I missed my doc appt, and only have a hand full left (maybe 15). I want to do a quick taper and be done with it.

I have the knowledge to build my own taper schedule, but maybe I am here for a bit of support.

Not quite sure.
 
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No doubt, man. Tapering can be a scary thing.. the thought of being off everything totally ya know? Good news is you have plenty of suboxone to do a very comfortable taper, so you'll be fine physically.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
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You can use google for that kind of super basic info.. I mean, at least put in some effort ha.
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lol Mr.scagnattie - that gave me a chuckle did that.
There's also the BL search engine too.
mdmazing_ you really need to be a bit more specific with your question. We could write you a book with this question - that's why it's being suggested to you to look on Google. If you be a bit more specific we could try and help you a bit further.
Also I'm not from the UK so I can't really help you sorry.
Evey xxxx

Scag not sure about tapers. I've not been there yet. Just want to say Good luck with getting off suboxone xxxx
 
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Haha. I didn't mean to be a dick, but come on right?

It's just.. there is so much to know about suboxone and methadone, you can't just be like "so tell me about methadone and suboxone." Hah. What do you wanna know?

mdmazing, I encourage you to search through BL, do a basic google search on subxone and methadone to familiarize yourself with what they are and how they work, then come back here and ask some specific follow up questions you have.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
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Haha. I didn't mean to be a dick, but come on right?

It's just.. there is so much to know about suboxone and methadone, you can't just be like "so tell me about methadone and suboxone." Hah. What do you wanna know?

mdmazing, I encourage you to search through BL, do a basic google search on subxone and methadone to familiarize yourself with what they are and how they work, then come back here and ask some specific follow up questions you have.
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lol I know you didn't. I took it the wrong way when you said that to me once lol.
But you're right to be honest. For some things it is worth doing a Google search.
Or the poster should aim to make the post more specific as I suggested in my last post xxxx
 
When I google stuff like that, this site is one of the first things that pops up which is how I even stumbled across it. I thought I was specific by asking how they work & if they just make you feel better or make you high. I figured it'd be better to ask people who know about the shit but I guess I was wrong for thinking that.
 
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No you weren't wrong. I apologize. I didn't mean to turn you off or try and make you feel stupid.

As far if they make you high.. not really. I mean, that's why they are used for maintenence. Because they have a long half-life and do not stimulate your opiate receptors as much as something like heroin. Though, some people report a slight euphoria sometimes for a few hours after dosing.. but your not "high" you know?
 
mdmazing_ said:
When I google stuff like that, this site is one of the first things that pops up which is how I even stumbled across it. I thought I was specific by asking how they work & if they just make you feel better or make you high. I figured it'd be better to ask people who know about the shit but I guess I was wrong for thinking that.
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Sorry if I came across as belittling you too. Going through a few stuff at moment, though that's no excuse. You're not stupid. if you need help you ask away ok. We only pointed out Google or the BL search engine because some people actually prefer to search that way so that's why we suggested it. But sorry if you took any offence in any way as that was no-one's intention to do so.

Evey xxx
 
Sorry for double post (I'm sure mods will sort it) when you ask about methadone n suboxone - well they are huge subjects, with a lot of different questions that can be associated with them. That's what mr.scag meant. He was not trying to be offensive in any way to you. A lot of people that come here are independent n wish to find the answers for themselves so mr.scag was just trying to help you - you understand that don't you?
Please find of some question that you want answering and we will try to answer them for you (I don't know much about methadone sorry but will try helping with suboxone in any way that I can).
Hope this helps and like I say sorry about the double post.
Evey xxxx
 
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