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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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pixplzthx said:
Thanking you. <3

I actually know of a pill mill doctor. I swore I would never go there but desperate times call for desperate measures, eh? %)
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I think it's sad that we have to resort to these sorts of things, because there are essentially no legitimate doctors who are willing to do the right thing. :(

I hope that this other doctor helps you out. Let us know how it goes for you!
 
pixplzthx said:
Thanking you. <3

I actually know of a pill mill doctor. I swore I would never go there but desperate times call for desperate measures, eh? %)
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Well, as long as you feel strong enough to ask this "pill mill" for the correct meds in the correct doasages and to not get carried away it should be allright. But im sure I dont have to tell you how easy it is to slip into an addiction, so just be careful and make sure you take care of your pain, but not 100%. Its important to always have that last little bit of pain or "uncomfortableness" to help prevent dependancy and addiciton.
 
Oh yeah. I got you there. But that is always solid advice.

I just want enough to be able to be... more normal. Pain is normal. Debilitating pain is not.
 
How to, and How long does it take after suboxone can you take an opiate *Experience!*

Hey guys, i have been clean for almost 8 weeks and have been on Suboxone all that time. I take a full 8mg Suboxone daily. I planned out a little slip for myself that occurred a couple of hours ago today (Monday). For my slip, it involved a little under a gram of coke and 2 Opana 30 mg ER. Since i have been on Suboxone for quite some time, i needed to prep for the night (Monday) with tapering. I started on Friday which i took a half of a pill making it 4mg in the morning. The next day (Saturday) i jumped down to 2 mg without any problems. I then did the same on Sunday with 2mg. Then came monday, the day of the slip! I woke up around 8:00am and had a full day of school ahead of me. I didnt take any Suboxone because of fear that this might be able to block out the Opana. Withdrawals started occuring with cold and hot sweats, nausea, runny nose, lack of appetite and that's about it and it really sucked and reminded myself what i never want to get into again with that horrible routine. i Went through that all day until 8:00pm rolled around. I sucked the coating off the 30mg Opana, crushed it and did it all in one shot by snorting it. The results you may ask? They were great! I felt nicely high and haven't felt that way in quite some time. I then proceeded with doing the coke and then after the coke was finished after about 3 hours of nicely spacing out the really good coke, i crushed up the second Opana after taking the coating off and and then again snorted it in one shot. This was my experience with getting around the Buprenorphine. Monday did suck going without suboxone but it took a little over 24 hours from last taking the Suboxone for me to feel the full or at least most of the opiate effect. Hope this might help some curious people who are on Suboxone and wondering if they can slip up here and there while taking it.
 
this isnt really HR....

you will learn in time that these awesome "slips" just make recovery harder... you already said you didnt wanna go back to that horrible routine.

how do you feel on a full 8mg? the constipation made me wanna use less...... im now on 2mg daily......
 
SkagKush said:
this isnt really HR....

you will learn in time that these awesome "slips" just make recovery harder... you already said you didnt wanna go back to that horrible routine.

how do you feel on a full 8mg? the constipation made me wanna use less...... im now on 2mg daily......
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The full 8mg does the job for me well. To battle the constipation i take 2 to 3 100mg Coalace pills (mild laxatives) that help regulate my bowel movements without any discomfort which really helps and id recommend it as well. As far as the routine, it is definitely something which i never want to go back to as i had said. The reason i wanted to share this is because i just had first hand experience with taking an opiate while on the Suboxone program and for people who are curious on how it can work to get around the Suboxone which relatively has a long half-life. I do not intend on making this a habit and i know it wont be after what i have been through with heroin and other opiates previously.
 
congrats man, i also was using a mild laxative at the 8mg dose, but now on the 2mg dose i am just using benefibre. i am going to the washroom every single day. so this seems to be almost perfect. taking stool softners or laxatives everyday is not the best.

whats your bupe therapy look like in the future?
 
i have a few questions for anyone who shoots their suboxone

a. how many cottons do you go through? i go through about 3 if im shooting 2 pills, and feel as thoguh i am wasting s much of i, however putting ISO on those cottons is fruitless. my syringe simply clogs every time i try to pull up

b.what color is your final product? ive heard ppl ending up w/ clear yet milky white substances. is this normal? if so i dont see how and must be doing something wrong. even if i let the ISO fully evaporate theres still orange resin in the spoon. (usually however i boot it as soon as whats left of the solution is small enough to fit in my syringe. i think the ok alc rush outwieghs the pain, and distracts till the bupe hits but thats just me.)
 
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wso337 said:
i have a few questions for anyone who shoots their suboxone

a. how many cottons do you go through? i go through about 3 if im shooting 2 pills, and feel as thoguh i am wasting s much of i, however putting ISO on those cottons is fruitless. my syringe simply clogs every time i try to pull up

b.what color is your final product? ive heard ppl ending up w/ clear yet milky white substances. is this normal? if so i dont see how and must be doing something wrong. even if i let the ISO fully evaporate theres still orange resin in the spoon. (usually however i boot it as soon as whats left of the solution is small enough to fit in my syringe. i think the ok alc rush outwieghs the pain, and distracts till the bupe hits but thats just me.)
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Shooting iso can't be that good of an idea? Maybe ethanol but isopropyl?

Captain heroin has a thread showing a prepared suboxone shot somewhere
 
SkagKush said:
congrats man, i also was using a mild laxative at the 8mg dose, but now on the 2mg dose i am just using benefibre. i am going to the washroom every single day. so this seems to be almost perfect. taking stool softners or laxatives everyday is not the best.

whats your bupe therapy look like in the future?
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ahh yes see i started a big fiber diet myself when i first got on the Suboxone but it wasnt good enough. the laxatives were needed. I figured taking it every day cant be too good but i really have no other choice but to be constipated which i hate. Its looking like i gotta stay 90 days clean first on the 8mg and then from there the tapering begins
 
KidNapster said:
ahh yes see i started a big fiber diet myself when i first got on the Suboxone but it wasnt good enough. the laxatives were needed. I figured taking it every day cant be too good but i really have no other choice but to be constipated which i hate. Its looking like i gotta stay 90 days clean first on the 8mg and then from there the tapering begins
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According to who?

Taper yourself, save the pills, own your Dr.
 
JamtasticX said:
According to who?

Taper yourself, save the pills, own your Dr.
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exactly....as long as you know what your doing you can be taking a much smaller dose than your doctor thinks you are taking....fuck him if he says you cant taper yet. Allthough, the benefit to waiting a few months before tapering is that it gives you time to adjust to sober living which is a big mental aspect of being an addict. But, I think you should taper right now...actually, you should drop your dose to about 2-4mg's immediately, you shouldnt have any withdrawal effects, and if you do, take a little more sub until you feel better, and then taper your dose quickly to about 1mg/day within about 1-2weeks. It really isnt a hard taper to do...its not like tapering a heroin addiction or soemthign.....trust me, I know MANY MANY people including myself who have dropped doses like that with no problem whatsoever. And then, once you are on the tiny dose, you stay there for the remainder of your maintanence and when you finally wanna get off, you can lower your dose to like 0.2 mg's with no problem and stay at that for a couple weeks or maybe longer and then jump off from there with little to no withdrawal hopefully. It works for me and it has worked for all the people who have followed my advice exactly(which isnt many people yet, but im hoping more will give it a try).
 
JamtasticX said:
Shooting iso can't be that good of an idea? Maybe ethanol but isopropyl?

Captain heroin has a thread showing a prepared suboxone shot somewhere
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Unless it's medical grade isopropanol (and even if it is, I still wouldn't...) you are doing damage because of the impurities in standard grade rubbing alcohol.

Also, here's the micron filtering mega thread you were referring to.
 
opiates0924 said:
has anyone personally shot a suboxone film yet?
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Theres another thread I think I answered this in, but it should be better/easier than the pills, unless there is some nasty thing in it, but i have not looked into the inactive ingredients.
 
JamtasticX said:
Theres another thread I think I answered this in, but it should be better/easier than the pills, unless there is some nasty thing in it, but i have not looked into the inactive ingredients.
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actually the captain allready has posted the inactives in the film strips and the only thing that could be problematic is the tiny amount of "white ink" than is in the strips but not in the tablets. but I do not think this will cause any major problems, especially considering you allready got rid of a shitload of binders and fillers already that were dangerous to inject(of course without a micron filter)
 
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