Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

[SkagKush]

get back to bupe, and taper down to below 2mg asap. you will get the most "high" this way.

 

[ilovevegas]

what a great thread,i will be starting my sub treatment in the next few days.im currenty on roxy 30s in a take about 20-30 a day.i have tried the sub treatment before but i failed,it only lasted a week or 2,in was because i was broke in didnt have money to go back to the doctor in do some other things i had to do to get my second sricpt filled.so i ended up relasping,about 2 months ago to this point.but im done with this cycle im going in tmoro or tuesday(as soon as i can get a appointment)and im going to get better!

ty to all,for you great insight in this thread it has def helped me decide to go in get on the subs again,and i have money ready to do all i need to do this time to make sure i get the doses and treatment i need to make this work.from all i have read here im guessing 2 pills day will be fine to start with,but prob only take one in morning in one at night to start off?does anyone have any suggestions for me in that manner,as to how many 8 mg sub to take a day to start off my treament?ty for any help,and i will keep my progess going in this thread in keep asking questions if i need to,to do everything in my power to make this work for me

 

[ilovevegas]

this thread has excited me show much that i read he hole damn thing tonight or least this one sub section of it

i would also like to ask this,im plan on my last dose being two hours ago,and if i can get a appointment,then i will be getting my subs tmoro midday late after noon,with that being said it would be around a 24 hour period(ill wait till later tmoro before i start)before i will want to taking my first sub.

from what i have read here i should start with maybe a 1/4 of a 8mg pill in see how it goes,in then take another 1/4 ever half in hour so from there is long as every thing is fine till i get to one full pill for the night,then start doing my reg doasage tmoro?

and again what dosage would you think would be a good starting point for me per day?

ty again for all help in thoughts

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

Ugh, the people I know who like subs would never take that long to prepare. A nasal spray would def work, and could use smaller concentrations of water for a better amount.

Just curious though, if I took one of the strips, and cut it up, say into 4. Then took 2/4 of them and pushed them up my nose with finger/pencil with erase (or something that won't cut/get stick) couldn't I just push it into the nasal cavity? It needs to be in the cavity and not the nostrils for this to work right?

all you need to do ( and it doesn't take long to prepare) is put some warm water in a spoon and add the desired amount of the strip and mix it up until completely dissolved 1-2min and then snort up the liquid.. it's as easy as that and sure beats shoving a strip up your nose with a pencil

 

[JamtasticX]

all you need to do ( and it doesn't take long to prepare) is put some warm water in a spoon and add the desired amount of the strip and mix it up until completely dissolved 1-2min and then snort up the liquid.. it's as easy as that and sure beats shoving a strip up your nose with a pencil

You see I can comprehend that, but some people who might stumble across my medicine arn't that educated. I'm just looking out for the stumblers.

Why though couldn't I put the strip up my nose, there should be enough moisture to make it dissolve.

 

[Deveel]

Weirrd situation here.... I left ny hyalfway house Friday, on bad terms. The owner has 12 of my suboxone and if being a dick about giving it back. I was taking 8mg per day for lile 2months and last I tool was 4mg Thursday morning. I've been gett7bg fuckd up (vyvanse, crack,xanax and weed. But I was sober up until like 8pm yesterday. I still don't feel sick? I've beenibg doing a lot of vyvanse is that affectinng my withdrawal symptoms?

 

[JamtasticX]

Weirrd situation here.... I left ny hyalfway house Friday, on bad terms. The owner has 12 of my suboxone and if being a dick about giving it back. I was taking 8mg per day for lile 2months and last I tool was 4mg Thursday morning. I've been gett7bg fuckd up (vyvanse, crack,xanax and weed. But I was sober up until like 8pm yesterday. I still don't feel sick? I've beenibg doing a lot of vyvanse is that affectinng my withdrawal symptoms?

If they are prescibed legally call the cops.

Suboxone has like a 36 hour halflife. So think of it like this.
+0 8mg, +36 4mg, +72 2mg.
You still have 2mg after 3 days. Suboxone withdrawals can take days to begin, where some people go into withdrawal the second their short acting opiate like heroin wears off

 

[Deveel]

My name is on that bottle. Ill try to call the halfyway house owner and threaten to call the cops. Since I left because I was getting high and gonna get charged150 in food with my foodstamp card.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

You see I can comprehend that, but some people who might stumble across my medicine arn't that educated. I'm just looking out for the stumblers.

Why though couldn't I put the strip up my nose, there should be enough moisture to make it dissolve.

you could try it and let us know how it works i suppose.
i would just be scared of suffocating on it somehow. lol.

 

[JamtasticX]

you could try it and let us know how it works i suppose.
i would just be scared of suffocating on it somehow. lol.

I'll try it only if the dr decides to switch. The way it is I can't ask the pharmacist like I could do for some stuff, the prescription has to say suboxone 8mg tablet or suboxone 8mg film.

I could ask my Dr, but until I know more about it I'll stick to the pills which are easy to sniff

I wonder how an 8mg strip compares to an 8mg pill when taken under the tongue. A lot of the pill is lost through spit/swallow. Sniffing gives about 2x the strength of sublingual.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

i just got switched to the strips on friday and they're actually not too bad, taking the strip (or part of it) sublingually works as well as the tablet (or a piece of it) insufflated IMO. My doctor first said he was giving us a choice on whether we wanted to switch or not and then when i went in for my monthly appt. he told me he was having everyone switch. the strips are the exact same price as the tabs in case you were wondering (not sure if it's been said before). and a couple weeks ago when i called to see if he was having everyone switch (when he said it was our choice) he said he had $75 off coupons for the scripts of the strips, but by the time my appt. came he was out of the f'n coupons, and i pay out of pocket for mine since i have no insurance i was pissed .

EDIT: with the tabs i used to snort or IV them (micron filtered but stopped IVing a while ago).. at about .5- 1mg doses.

 

[JamtasticX]

i just got switched to the strips on friday and they're actually not too bad, taking the strip (or part of it) sublingually works as well as the tablet (or a piece of it) insufflated IMO. My doctor first said he was giving us a choice on whether we wanted to switch or not and then when i went in for my monthly appt. he told me he was having everyone switch. the strips are the exact same price as the tabs in case you were wondering (not sure if it's been said before). and a couple weeks ago when i called to see if he was having everyone switch (when he said it was our choice) he said he had $75 off coupons for the scripts of the strips, but by the time my appt. came he was out of the f'n coupons, and i pay out of pocket for mine since i have no insurance i was pissed .

EDIT: with the tabs i used to snort or IV them (micron filtered but stopped IVing a while ago).. at about .5- 1mg doses.

I just went to my Dr last Wed and I'm going this wed. My Dr is a big fan of that here-to-help program (its a joke) so I'm sure he was the first to know about these, and is probably pushing them as the next best thing (I think my dr gets R&B kickbacks)

Its interesting that you didn't have a choice.

What sucks about my Dr is we have no choice of the phamacy we go to. We have to go to a phamacy and get drug tested by the same company...hmmm...

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ wow, i've never heard of anyone having to do that before.

 

[JamtasticX]

^ wow, i've never heard of anyone having to do that before.

Right, its crazy. I know other people scripted subs, they don't g et drug tested, and can take their scripts anywhere. They also get up to 30 day scripts.

I have to go to a lab to take drug test, then go to the Dr, then go to a pharmacy owned by the lab. You agree to do those things or you can't be in the program. You also go in between 2-4 times a month. If you do good you go twice a month, if not 3-4 times a month.

 

[SubDude]

Ive actually allready posted all about the method I used to prevent WD's from occuring. It may be seperated in a few seperate posts for people to put together on there own but its there. And its also slightly different for every person so each time I talk about it to someone, I tweak it to fit there situation as compared to someone elses.
I really dont care about publishing anything. Its out there, do what you want with it. Heres an idea, why dont you get it published under your name, and you can get rich off of it, ill just stay here on BL trying to help people by answering there questions. Good luck with that.

I would like to publish or blog it, but don't know what to say... Once again, you said, "no PAWS on subs... suboxone](or bupe) is a complex drug the methods used to manipulate it so that you "bypass" WD's are complex as well......and mny people don't take the time to recognize that or even care to recognize that, and then eventually they bitch about how much they hurt, when they could have gained some knowledge to prevent the pain

I think people want to know the methods available to manipulate and bypass WD's, using subs as a tool to become drug free. I also believe they care very much and many people will take the time to read and follow a proven strategy.

Please understand that what you've said regarding WD avoidance is profoundly important to [potentially] millions of people. In 2001, an estimated 15.9 million Americans ages 12 or older were current illicit drug users, meaning they had used an illicit drug during the month prior to the survey interview. Of course these aren't all opiate addicts, but many will become drug dependent.
http://www.usnodrugs.com/drug-addiction-statistics.htm

A systematic strategy for eliminating WD's... [both acute and PAWS] would be of interest to most every opiate addict in and outside of ORT. Something this significant could change the approach drug rehab doctors and therapists use with the recovery process. No addict wants to suffer WD symptoms.

I've looked at several of your postings on this subject but I'm seeing mostly generalities without really addressing what you refer too as the "complex" issues involved. I also wasn't aware there was a technique for eliminating PAWS [along with the acutes] until your most recent posting. I'm sorry but I've tried to connect your separated postings on this but have been unable to link them together into a plan which I think would be useful... and make sense to others.

If you would be so kind [when you have time] as to "connect the dots" for me in one posting, then not only will other BL'ers be grateful to you... so will others looking for help outside BL.

Also... since you're motivations are purely altruistic in nature... I'm going to make you a promise. I will, at my own time and expense, blog this procedure and make certain the blog is submitted/recognized/crawled by Google, Yahoo, Bing...etc. and will get a good chance to be found and ranked well under keyword phrases related to suboxone, addiction, recovery...etc. This will include submitting it to alexa, properly optimizing the meta tags, keyword content density & relevancy, add alt tags to images, and linked to social networks like twitter/facebook & others. That part will take time but something this important deserves the commitment. I will also put your name as the author and won't take any credit myself. BTW I own/operate several websites [unrelated to drug addiction] and have a fair amount of knowledge about search engine optimization techniques... and internet marketing. I'm not a professional at online marketing but have had nearly 3 million unique visitors to my own sites over the yrs.

 

[jamesBrown]

i'll see what i can do...but like i said, it varies from individual to individual. i dont know yet but this could equate to writing an entire book because it could become so complex, hvaing to do with all the different possible scenarios and all the different variables in each one of those scenarios. i dont know if i have the energy to type all that up.

thats why i enjoy helping people on a one on one basis here on BL because i can address these peoples individual problems/issues one by one to more accurately "bypass" these painful symptoms everyone complains of.

....and even if i could write some form of a "report"....it definitely would not be written using techniques and terms accepted by the general medical community.

 

[Never_Sober]

I know its hard to say anything new in this forum considering almost everyone on this covered everything I could think of, but I figured just for "educational purposes" I would put in my experience although it is extremley minimal. Four days ago I took my first 2mg's of suboxone (to help with the restless legs, which in turn helped me
sleep), I then skipped a day, for the next two days I took another 2 mg's per day, now after reading the posts I was under the assumption I wouldn't feel shit, but boy was I wrong! I should have read more carefully, with so few doses I apparently still had more than enough receptors open to feel an awesome buzz, but either way thanks for all the information, but the old saying is true "if you need to find something out, the best way is to do it yourself."

 

[Nortyy]

Just would like to post my opinion on bupe in the mega thread.

I used to get VERY little mental relief of opiate cravings when I put them under my tounge, up

my nose or in my arm. Then I tried taking them rectally...AND WOW it works great! If you are

looking to get more out of your subs please try plugging them!

 

[jamesBrown]

yea, in my opinion, rectal administration is the most euphoric form of administering suboxone.
I do it once every week or two.

 

[8L4YN3]

Fuck bupe i cant wait to switch over to methadone........