Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

[rolls_]

History 16mg > 2mg over 8 months, no hickups during the way and a very smooth taper, went down to 4mg pretty fast and then slowly went to 3 then 2.

so 12 days ago I made the drop from 2mg daily to 1mg daily, it went fairly smoothly but my body has needed some adjusting. The slight buzz I got disappeared (expected and a good thing) and whilst it held me all day the smaller dose wore off at night time, this left me with the sweats, really bad dreams where I am just ridiculously anxious and a racing heart beat.

As soon as I got up I would be ok but lying down trying to sleep was not fun. To counter the side effects I have been taking 50 to 100ug of clonidine at night and every couple of nights 2.5mg (half a tab) of nitrazapam to sleep.

Now as 1mg was a pain in the ass to take I've since reduced further to 0.8mg as they come in single tablets but the night time anxiety has persisted. I don't want to increase my dose but I also don't want to take benzos as it will just make the problem worse, I have some phenibut coming soon which should help but how long is this likely to last? It has almost been 2 weeks now and my body is still barely reacting any different to the first few days.

It is totally manageable during the day but at night time it can get quite bad, mainly the anxiety as the clonidine stops the sweats and hot flushes very effectively.

 

[SkagKush]

2mg again today with no mishap...... hoora

 

[jamesBrown]

good for you man. i think ill be dead before you reach 1mg though...jk lol

 

[destiny_days]

I think tapering fast from the higher doses eventually catches up when your on the lower doses..Don't forget the half-life of Sub is very long so it's basically taking time for it to come out of your system (half-life of the higher doses). That's why it's wise to taper slowly or gradually even from the higher doses..It took me like 3 weeks to stablize in each drop, this even from the higher doses..Am currently on 1mgs and doing well. I also exercise a lot, so try that, it will give you good sleep, but then again I take my dose in the evenings as that is when I wake up, funny thing is I feel better when am awake during the night and sleeping during the day, I think that's why 1mg is holding me apart from the Excercise..

P.S I've been on Subutex for 5 years now. You gotta be mentally strong too.

 

[rolls_]

I think tapering fast from the higher doses eventually catches up when your on the lower doses..Don't forget the half-life of Sub is very long so it's basically taking time for it to come out of your system (half-life of the higher doses). That's why it's wise to taper slowly or gradually even from the higher doses..It took me like 3 weeks to stablize in each drop, this even from the higher doses..Am currently on 1mgs and doing well. I also exercise a lot, so try that, it will give you good sleep, but then again I take my dose in the evenings as that is when I wake up, funny thing is I feel better when am awake during the night and sleeping during the day, I think that's why 1mg is holding me apart from the Excercise..

P.S I've been on Subutex for 5 years now. You gotta be mentally strong too.

yeah I do loads of exercise, 4x a week of heavy weights sessions and 30 minutes of hard cycling, i'd be fucked without the exercise, keeps my natural endorphins flowing, get depressed if I take more than 4 days off.

 

[jamesBrown]

Actually, I get practically zero exercise and yet im able to feel great on only 0.5mg's. Not only that but I get euphoria from that low dose. I also get anti-depressant properties, and energy boosts....but apparently the energy boosts arent strong enough to get me off my ass to play sports like I use to.
Its sad, I was an amazing athlete for 17 years of my life, but once I was a heroin addict, that all went away. Im still working on becoming more active, as im sure it will benefit me in so many ways......im just still finding it hard to process all the bad things I have done and the time I have wasted in my life.

 

[SkagKush]

hey james! only third day of 2mg for me....lol

even 2mg daily makes a pill last awhile.....

 

[rolls_]

Actually, I get practically zero exercise and yet im able to feel great on only 0.5mg's. Not only that but I get euphoria from that low dose. I also get anti-depressant properties, and energy boosts....but apparently the energy boosts arent strong enough to get me off my ass to play sports like I use to.
Its sad, I was an amazing athlete for 17 years of my life, but once I was a heroin addict, that all went away. Im still working on becoming more active, as im sure it will benefit me in so many ways......im just still finding it hard to process all the bad things I have done and the time I have wasted in my life.

yeah I got a buzz off 2mg that lasted quite a few hours, 1mg gives me it as well but it only lasts about 30 minutes then its gone, kind of want to learn to live without the buzz though so I'm happy for it to leave me, during the day when im at work getting results I feel very happy, same with after exercise but come night time I dont know why but I feel shit, even if I have my dose at night.

Really hope my body adjusts soon so I can enjoy sleep again, then once I've done that for 2-4 weeks I'll jump down to 0.4mg and do it all over again I guess.

 

[SkagKush]

tried snorting?....................

 

[rolls_]

tried snorting?....................

whats the point in that? all it does is increase the amount that gets into your blood stream, might as well just ask to go back up a dose if I am going to do that, whole point is to reduce the dose and get my body used to it, taking more is the opposite.

 

[SkagKush]

thats true, but alot of people who dose even lower do IV or snort it.... faster onest, so you can distinguish the euphoria.

just dose even less.....

 

[rolls_]

thats true, but alot of people who dose even lower do IV or snort it.... faster onest, so you can distinguish the euphoria.

just dose even less.....

then its going to be even worse at night as it doesn't last as long, if anything I'd want it to last longer, not shorter.

 

[SkagKush]

Thats why i do subling aswell... duration.

but u can dose once in the morn and once in the PM, and be prime. doses being 0.5mg.

so ur 2mg now lasts 2 days

 

[SkagKush]

not tryna preach here rolls, im taking 2mg subling every AM still.

 

[rolls_]

Thats why i do subling aswell... duration.

but u can dose once in the morn and once in the PM, and be prime. doses being 0.5mg.

so ur 2mg now lasts 2 days

fair enough but I am on only 0.8mg a day, splitting the dose up into morning and pm might be worth a shot though, I'll give it a go tomorrow.

 

[SkagKush]

hmm ya plz do and report back, this will prove as good reading material for many...

im at 2mg a day atm, subling, in the AM... thinking of snorting 1mg in the AM and doing the rest in the evening. i know thats not as low, but maybe ill be there soon. i think im doing damn well for under a month.

 

[j0nj0n]

I'm currently taking anywhere between 2-4mg a day..not sure due to breaking up an 8mg pill.

I'm also currently snorting it..I break the pill in half then break little pieces off so that's also why I'm unsure of the does. I'm trying to taper off since I only have so many and I moved for school.

to me from what I read above, snorting it gets more into your blood stream right? So should I just start sticking it under my tounge? Taste is kinda horrid but I need to get off.

I'm kinda scared to get off but in the end I kinda have no choice. The thing is I'm mentally unable to not take it. Like I don't really need it before I leave for school but I feel I need to take it. And also right when I get home from school..there's ilke 8 hrs in between. how do you guys keep mentally strong??

 

[SkagKush]

make equal piles, or cut it even with a blade....

 

[spaceyourbass]

I'm currently on suboxone maintenance. I get the 8/2's, the highest dose available to my knowledge. This drug may have saved my life in the long run, but it has definitely saved my life in the short-run. I have been able to go to class everyday since I started maintenance. I'm expecting to make a 4.0 GPA for this semester and get on the Dean's List for the second time in my life. The other time I made straight A's was about 2 years ago, and that was when I had a steady supply of oxy 80's for next-to-nothing prices.

If anyone out there is considering suboxone therapy, feel good about yourself for this consideration alone. My advice is to start looking NOW, or tomorrow at least, for doctors that will prescribe suboxone. Your best bet is to find a pain management office with a doctor certified to prescribe suboxone. Other doctors may have a waiting list and you might have to wait MONTHS for an appointment. If you can find a place like I mentioned before, you might have to wait 2-3 weeks for an appointment. You might get lucky like I did, even though my wait was 3 or 4 weeks.
Another thing to take into consideration is your insurance. You've got to have prior authorization from your insurance company for them to cover the prescription. So after you get an appointment, talk to your insurance company beforehand. Your doctor is going to have to call your insurance company and convince them to cover your suboxone.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to PM me (or whatever that's called) on bluelight. I am ready to help anyone on BL interested in suboxone therapy.

 

[spaceyourbass]

I'm currently taking anywhere between 2-4mg a day..not sure due to breaking up an 8mg pill.

I'm also currently snorting it..I break the pill in half then break little pieces off so that's also why I'm unsure of the does. I'm trying to taper off since I only have so many and I moved for school.

to me from what I read above, snorting it gets more into your blood stream right? So should I just start sticking it under my tounge? Taste is kinda horrid but I need to get off.

I'm kinda scared to get off but in the end I kinda have no choice. The thing is I'm mentally unable to not take it. Like I don't really need it before I leave for school but I feel I need to take it. And also right when I get home from school..there's ilke 8 hrs in between. how do you guys keep mentally strong??

If I was in your situation, I would start sniffing (NOT "snorting") the subs you have left. Try to start small, sniffing maybe a quarter a day. Soon, you will be able to sniff a tiny pinner and be fine all day. Start experimenting to find out when you start going through withdrawals ( is it 1 full day without, 2 days?).

After your able to sniff pinners every other day with no w/d symptoms, you're in the money. Keep it up. Soon, you will be down to your last pill. Start sniffing half pinners now. Wait a couple days, and snort another half pinner, etc etc. One thing about it is that there's no way around it - you WILL have w/d symptoms once you stop taking the subs. You might want to save 1/8th of a pill just in case the w/d's are too much to handle. Don't sniff this though, just let it dissolve under your tongue. Hope this helps.

PS your other option is to do something like I said before, but doing it sublingually. I don't have experience in this though, so if anyone else has a better method than I gave, please let this guy know.