Skydancer -- A Democratic Bluelight *see first post for link to Skydancer's response*

I am quite aware he has stepped on more than one set of toes but some seem to be of the idea he has contributed nothing at all which is far from the truth.
 
Fry-d- said:
I am quite aware he has stepped on more than one set of toes but some seem to be of the idea he has contributed nothing at all which is far from the truth.
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I could care less about stepping on toes. I am talking about the effective implementation of promoting harm reduction policy.

Go tell someone else to keep quiet and adore him. I've already said in a different thread that if anyone needs to have their asses kissed around here, there is probably a sale going on right now on eBay for ass kissing services. :|

Fry-d- said:
Catch has contributed an incredible amount to bluelight you are not giving him respect for; don't use one inconsideration (edd) as a reflection of a life’s work.

I have no bias here but I think this witch hunt is definitely not in the best interest of bluelight.
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And your remards about"me" and EDD proves that you haven't a clue as to what it is that I am talking about.

Do you? :\
 
Just a quick note:

I edited the title so that people could see that SD responded, and they could locate his response easily (at this point there are tons of responses to sift through).

Also, a thank you to SD for taking so much time to respond to this thread.
 
starlightgemini said:
Just a quick note:

I edited the title so that people could see that SD responded, and they could locate his response easily (at this point there are tons of responses to sift through).

Also, a thank you to SD for taking so much time to respond to this thread.
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user options allows one to vary how many posts appear per page so it is NOT on page 14 for me ( nor will it be for anyone not using the default option of posts / page ).

i have edited my opening post to provide a link to SD's response >>

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2759262#post2759262

you might wish to reconsider the edit to the title.
 
skydancer said:
I hadn't addressed this but it deserves another Q. It is a simple name change and not a takeover. We are not shooting moderators or users. Currently the forum is titled "Drug Discussion" but it is more social in nature and this has generated complaints. This causes misinformation and confusion to the naive user and that has been the reason to address it. There have been other examples of forums with ambiguous or unclear purposes and this makes a forum not realize its potential.

So if the regular users want to talk about drugs, a new forum will be created specifically for that purpose. There will now be two forums, one of which would be just the social aspects from EDD, and one will be focused on serious drug questions, and both audiences have the most appropriate environment. Someone who is interested in both simply can post in multiple forums (just like all other regional forums at Bluelight).

And if people do not care for a serious drug forum, the forum will become a social forum and people can chat freely without interfering with people looking for drug information (because these people would be specifically redirected to the drug forums).
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All well and good, but you're sidestepping the more important point which this furore over EDD has raised.

What are your opinions on the way in which Catch, that master of personnel management, handled these changes? 3 major areas I'd appreciate some opinion on from you, or (heaven forbid) some justification for from Catch are:

1. The clumsy and aggresive wording of Catch's original announcement and refusal to elucidate on it if (as now seems to be the claim) EDD was merely misunderstanding his intentions. After all, these posts of his were the trigger for this current uproar.

2. Catch's decision not to contact the mods of EDD prior to the announcement.

3. The curt, evasive and frankly preposterous reasons for not contacting us which Catch gave when the question was raised in the staff forum. If you want to see the "skills" of your personnel manager in action just have a look at the 2 threads in the staff forum started by Dr. Seuss entitled "EDD poll" and "Not answered!".
 
xtcxtc said:
user options allows one to vary how many posts appear per page so it is NOT on page 14 for me ( nor will it be for anyone not using the default option of posts / page ).

i have edited my opening post to provide a link to SD's response >>

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2759262#post2759262

you might wish to reconsider the edit to the title.
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oh, I'd overlooked that.

Alright, I will edit it then. Thanks for putting the post ID link in your initial post :) I was thinking of just doing that, but didn't really want to alter your post.

How's the new title? If you have a suggestion as to what you would like the title to be (to reflect that SD has responded) please let me know, and I will gladly edit it for you :)
 
I think that a Public Relations position would be of great benefit. It wouldn't really get anything done, and it wouldn't advance the cause of bluelight. But it would prevent issues like this thread from arising, because people would be fully informed. Probably not the best idea to call them "administrator" or any variation of that, as they'd have no real power - the point of the position would be to communicate relevant information to the regular bluelighters who are actually really interested to know it.

A more cynical way of looking at it would be to consider this person the propaganda minister, who controls the information and therefore controls the general population. But I think even something like that would be benificial, because at the very least everyone would know where they stand. It's pretty much the lack of information and the general feeling of hidden agendas which has caused a lot of the problems here in the first place.
 
starlightgemini said:
I just noticed that xtcxtc no longer has "benefactor" under his name, but is now just "bluelighter"

what happened? 8o :(
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i think i posted link here else see support forum under "PM's" post.
 
Skydancer gave the exact response I expected him to: "shut the fuck up and deal with it."

He obviously doesn't get the point. Or maybe he does, and just doesn't care.
 
for those asking about the "benefactor" name under someones nickname, I hope I'm not stepping on anyones toes, but it was asked to be removed by the person so they are not easily identifiable.
 
Roger&Me said:
Skydancer gave the exact response I expected him to: "shut the fuck up and deal with it."

He obviously doesn't get the point. Or maybe he does, and just doesn't care.
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I am sure if he goes to the trouble of setting up the whole thing that he does care about it- but has a different viewpoint.

Its good to get the story from the other side of the coin- thanks for responding SD.



:)
 
we only covered certain forums. (for example, EDD had no admin, so the senior mods were the contact points) now the admins have all of the forums covered, and we will serve as the "official word" in that those forums, as opposed to the senior admins. The admins are able to respond more quickly which should help out a lot with the gaps in communication
 
Excellent, now that everything is sorted out in the food chain, can EDD please be left alone?
 
Spencer said it best:

Spencer said:


We now officially know that at least part of the Senior administration doesn't care about a great many of the users on the board. By assigning a PR Admin to handle the dispersal of public information, they would never have to assoiciate with an end user ever again. They would only have to deal directly with one or two admins. Then, rather than treat the populous like children with "Because I said so, now leave me alone" answers, the users can be treated with respect like the adults that (most) of them are.
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I think the change to the staff structure that's been outlined will be a great help.

I hadn't had much contact with the admin team before now, but Frizzantik and Blue Adonis demonstrated a great deal of patience and concern for mere "end users" (despite getting blamed for someone else's mess in doing so) in choosing to come into the poll thread in EDD to give us some dialogue with senior staff and attempt to explain matters.

They obviously do give a damn about the little people, and if they're representative of how the administrators are going to relate to and deal with the rest of us then I'm confident they'll be able to handle PR in a much more competent way than was the recent case.
 
Grep said:
Excellent, now that everything is sorted out in the food chain, can EDD please be left alone?
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That is all we ask. Or do we all have to commit mass suicide in order for that to happen?:D
 
SmC said:
That is all we ask. Or do we all have to commit mass suicide in order for that to happen?:D
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If the posters of EDD were to run lemming-like off a cliff I get the feeling that there is something in the pipeline to save them!
 
you DO realize that walt just said he doesnt care about most of the people on the board, right? judging by his words and actions, i'd say he would encourage the lemmingcide rather than try to dissuade any of you :\
 
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