Sexual Preferences vs "Transphobia"

[arrall]

@arrall I highly doubt you'll get an answer you like from any 'cis' (God I hate that term, sorry) men as to why they wouldn't want to have sex with someone if they found out they used to be male. But can you not see why yourself? Put yourself in their shoes?

I can see why, and I think it boils down to a combination of transphobia (not seeing a trans woman as truly being a woman, no matter what) and personal insecurity surrounding one’s gender and sexuality.

Do you feel that this perhaps flavors your outspoken opinions regarding sex and how others view it?

Absolutely, yeah. All of our biases and attitudes towards sex affect our perspectives here.

 

[mal3volent]

It's weird to so aggressively label people bigots just because they want to have sex with people who have natural vaginas. You do concede there are differences between real vaginas/penises and constructed ones?

Transphobia: Definition: Negative attitudes, dislike, or unfair treatment directed towards transsexuality or transgender people.

Is it "negative" or "unfair" for a person to conclude they don't want to fuck you?

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I think it boils down to a combination of transphobia (not seeing a trans woman as truly being a woman, no matter what)

I don’t get that. I’m sorry, but that is not transphobia. It is simply sexual preference.

I’ll be frank, I don’t consider trans women at any stage of transition to be the same as a woman born as a woman. That is a pretty common perception that ain’t goin’ anywhere, and hostility to that is illogical. And I’m not hung up about it gender wise, I’d fuck any person who I’m attracted to. I’ll call them her/they/mam, whatever they like, no skin off my teeth. But then if I was to go through life all over again and settle down with someone permanently, I’d still seek out a person who was born female for a variety of reasons.

How is that transphobic? It has nothing to do with fear or logical fallacy or the crap that society spews, it is simply preference and biological fact. Maybe somehow in some future there will be the technology to completely alter the physical makeup of a human being but we are still light years away from that.

And all that is okay! You can fuck who you want to and everyone else can fuck who they want to and some random person not viewing you as a woman can not view you as a woman and it really doesn’t effect your life. You know why loads of people do not view transitioned MtF as 100% synonymous with cis women (or vice versa, which in my lifetime were just called tomboys), but you’re forcing yourself not to see it. The answers are there and it ain’t anything too complicated.

Understanding other human beings is difficult and I get that. But accepting that they are different from you and think differently is exactly what you are asking of others when you get hung up on non-existent transphobia.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

In fact by your logic I am still 100% heterosexual and it took me twenty years to accept that I am not, so please don’t rob me of that self-acceptance.

 

[arrall]

a variety of reasons.

I’m open to hearing your reasons if you are willing to share

 

[arrall]

In fact by your logic I am still 100% heterosexual and it took me twenty years to accept that I am not, so please don’t rob me of that self-acceptance.

I don’t understand…
Why would considering liking trans women to be straight make you 100% heterosexual?

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I’m open to hearing your reasons if you are willing to share

To procreate with my spouse (or at least to have the choice) being the most obvious.

I don’t understand…
Why would considering liking trans women to be straight make you 100% heterosexual?

Don’t be obtuse miss.

Do you honestly believe someone is heterosexual if they haven’t any beef with the nature of their sex partner’s genitalia outside of heteronormative situations?

 

[tryptakid]

I don’t understand…
Why would considering liking trans women to be straight make you 100% heterosexual?

People can have their preferences and it doesn't make them bigots or phobic. I tend to be attracted to brunettes with short hair rather than more femme presenting women with blonde hair. I don't have anything against blondes or super femme presenting people, it's just not my preference sexually.

 

[arrall]

Don’t be obtuse miss.

Do you honestly believe someone is heterosexual if they haven’t any beef with the nature of their sex partner’s genitalia outside of heteronormative situations?

I think that being attracted exclusively to women makes one heterosexual, yes.

 

[notsmokeymcpot420]

This could be worth examining.
Why would you care?

Perhaps it is .... "The ick" as the kids say -- no real logic behind it and it isnt necessarily fair.

Catholicism? Prudish?

 

[Jen X]

I'm straight as an arrow and I couldn't be with a trans man. I like who I like and to call me a trans phone/bigot is kinda crazy. I also like men taller than me (5'7) that doesn't mean im anti short people. Just a preference

 

[streaM Freak]

Preferences and prejudices exist everywhere.

Bluelight has been on the "agree to disagree" stage for a long time now, it seems like.

Maybe it's time to fight this political battle that has no real answer somewhere else.

 

[spypilot]

got my caffeine and adderall why dont i check bluelight and wow nevermind
this is why i dont usually check the sex board and i paid the price today scrolling through this
this is all just so immature

 

[arrall]

People can have their preferences and it doesn't make them bigots or phobic. I tend to be attracted to brunettes with short hair rather than more femme presenting women with blonde hair. I don't have anything against blondes or super femme presenting people, it's just not my preference sexually.

Blondes and brunettes are not minority groups….
Saying you were exclusively attracted to white women or Asian women or something would be very different.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Saying you were exclusively attracted to white women or Asian women or something would be very different.

Why, pray tell?

Is it PC to be attracted specifically to a minority instead of just white chicks? What if you’re a minority, is it okay to be attracted solely to your own ethnic group?

 

[CalicoCatLover]

I'm dying in the heat

Why would sexual preferences of one person be about if someone is trans unless yr gay

 

[arrall]

Why, pray tell?

Is it PC to be attracted specifically to a minority instead of just white chicks? What if you’re a minority, is it okay to be attracted solely to your own ethnic group?

No, I think both are pretty gross.
One of the reasons that I no longer speak to my best friend of about a decade is that he was extremely gross in his stereotyping, treatment, and fetishization of Asian women as a white man.

 

[CalicoCatLover]

I got told I was too white and ugly to wear anything asian recently, interesting you say that about your friend

I responded to buy whatever asian stuff I want

I don't let others tear me down

 

[Cream Gravy?]

No, I think both are pretty gross.

But why? Loads of people probably think your preferences are gross (such as gay men) but you don’t see them sitting up on their soap boxes judging you.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

One of the reasons that I no longer speak to my best friend of about a decade is that he was extremely gross in his stereotyping, treatment, and fetishization of Asian women as a white man.

And I mean we’re not talking about vulgar fetishization here, why does it disgust you so for someone to like what they like? Why is it not okay for them but okay for you?

Your attitude towards people is the same mindset that you weaponize against others. Make it make sense.