Set up on a coke deal (super mega merged)

[toa$t]

if you sell your dealer out, you better realize that he will get 10x whatever you were going to get.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

A lot of people here are saying dumb shit. Absent minded, this is your life, you owe nothing to no one, there is no loyalty you owe to anyone. If you need to be an informant, then by all means do it.

First, retain a lawyer. Do not agree to help the cops without a lawyer present. Most of the times they are just baiting you into incriminating yourself, and really don't give a shit in starting a thousand dollar investigation just based on heresy from you. Get a lawyer and make sure it's a real deal.

Never talk without a lawyer, period.

If being an informant is an option, make sure the cops are working for you, not the other way around.

You should seriously consider it, no one owes you anything, and you shouldn't feel guilty or that it'll be "something you'll live with for the rest of your life". You're trying to get out of this lifestyle, no? If so, one of the first things you should realize is you don't have to abide by any bullshit codes of "stop snitching". That shit is only made up for piece of shit dealers to protect their own ass.

Nothing is more important than your own life. But make sure they aren't feeding you a lie and just trying to get you to incriminate yourself.

Fuck those saying don't snitch, they don't know shit about what it's like. People talk big until they get into the position.

 

[s3xyst3ve]

A lot of people here are saying dumb shit. Absent minded, this is your life, you owe nothing to no one, there is no loyalty you owe to anyone. If you need to be an informant, then by all means do it.

First, retain a lawyer. Do not agree to help the cops without a lawyer present. Most of the times they are just baiting you into incriminating yourself, and really don't give a shit in starting a thousand dollar investigation just based on heresy from you. Get a lawyer and make sure it's a real deal.

Never talk without a lawyer, period.

If being an informant is an option, make sure the cops are working for you, not the other way around.

You should seriously consider it, no one owes you anything, and you shouldn't feel guilty or that it'll be "something you'll live with for the rest of your life". You're trying to get out of this lifestyle, no? If so, one of the first things you should realize is you don't have to abide by any bullshit codes of "stop snitching". That shit is only made up for piece of shit dealers to protect their own ass.

Nothing is more important than your own life. But make sure they aren't feeding you a lie and just trying to get you to incriminate yourself.

Fuck those saying don't snitch, they don't know shit about what it's like. People talk big until they get into the position.

I disagree. It's YOUR FAULT you got caught. You knew it was illegal and you did whatever you did to get caught, and now you have to man up and face the consequences. It's NOT RIGHT to mess up other peoples lives because you fucked up yours by getting caught.

 

[pkt]

You know your situation best man, if your deep in the drug game or you have relations more than business with these people then i cannot suggest working as an informant, at least not if where your from is anything like where im from.

I'd keep my mouth shot but thats not neccesarily the best thing to do, it's just the right thing to do

If you think its going to save your ass then rat those bitches to the shit and save your ass.

 

[Kalash]

I disagree. It's YOUR FAULT you got caught. You knew it was illegal and you did whatever you did to get caught, and now you have to man up and face the consequences. It's NOT RIGHT to mess up other peoples lives because you fucked up yours by getting caught.

Tell me exactly why you believe he did something WRONG.

Please.


Falling victim to the terrorist tactics (BEHAVE or we'll come after you with guns!) is now the fault of the victim?

I don't think so.



Getting caught exercising your rights - in your pursuit of happiness - is not something to be ashamed of - nor to get beat up over.



But.....
Talk to an attorney.
I'm walking on very thin ice with my arguments.
Don't listen to me. (Unless you don't care about going to prison/jail for a LONG time and feel you have nothing to lose.)


As for those people saying, "You knew it was illegal and did it anyway!"
Screw you all.

The law is created by man in an effort to control other men. It is someone attempting to force their decisions and opinions on you.

Unless you violate someone else's rights you haven't committed a crime.
Believing that you did something WRONG because someone - a 3rd party with no vested interest in your action - told you it was wrong and threatened you with violence if you disobeyed...

Not buying it.
Sorry.

Check out the RICO laws, then get back to me.
Government forces you to pay them (taxes) in order to protect your rights.
Government dictates to you what rights you may exercise (converts rights to privileges) and threatens you if you try to exercise other rights they have marked as off limits.
Government further threatens you with violence if you refuse to pay your protection fees (taxes).


Personally, I don't like listening to criminals tell me what to do.

Back to the not listening to me thing.........
Don't do it.
I'm dangerous.

 

[BlueEclipse]

im sorry to hear ya got set up man. when i read the title i was just hoping it was something like got jacked for your money and nothing to do with cops.

One of my Friends couple weeks ago for the first time in there like got caught actaully was set up by someone they knew sortoff and sold to a undercover. I thing that sucks for them was they are not a dealer they are just a runner/addict and just will get stuff for people for some tax off what they get. But they are getting charged with selling coke. and cops gave them the same option. They havent said whats gonna happen yet. they have court at the end of the month so i ill let u kno what happens.

Talk to a laywer. if ya can not go to jail without telling on someone then thats awesome. but if u have to just to keep you out of jail i would consider moving after you did it so they dont have friends the person u told on that come after u.

 

['medicine cabinet']

I disagree. It's YOUR FAULT you got caught. You knew it was illegal and you did whatever you did to get caught, and now you have to man up and face the consequences. It's NOT RIGHT to mess up other peoples lives because you fucked up yours by getting caught.

right on. take responsibility. i dont think i could have said it any better myself. tho in this case he was set up, its not like he got popped off the street or something and was given the option of rolling, it seems like the cops had that planned from the get go.

 

[Missykins]

First: Don't listen to Kalash.

Second: Stop talking to the cops. They are using you. Only a LAWYER can offer a plea, NEVER A COP. So when they tell you that they can talk to the DA and get your charges reduced that only works on TV (frankly, it doesn't work there either).

Third: Get a lawyer. Not every PD is a bad lawyer. If you can afford a good one, then great.

 

[FrostyMcFailure]

bro get a good lawyer and dont listen to their scare tactics!! My inital reaction when i read this was "fuuuckkkkkk", srys 2 hear bro, you could get off with a slap on the wrist if u play it just write; theirs always a way

 

[sonnyluv]

Get a lawyer, a good one. Its amazing what they can do. And don't talk to the cops.

 

[s3xyst3ve]

Tell me exactly why you believe he did something WRONG.

Please.

he did something illegal, and don't try telling me no bullshit he didn't know coke was illegal, because that's just that, bullshit. unfortunately, there's laws in society regarding drugs (maybe not in your fantasy world, that's on you) but if you get caught committing a crime you do your time, not give up other people to save your selfish ass (which isn't going to happen anyway).

 

[lastregrets]

Wait, did the cop lure you to buy drugs??
If so, grab a lawyer, actually.. either way grab a lawyer, but if you were lured you can have a defense of entrapment.

 

[s3xyst3ve]

Wait, did the cop lure you to buy drugs??
If so, grab a lawyer, actually.. either way grab a lawyer, but if you were lured you can have a defense of entrapment.

while the OP didn't really give any details, the cops/DEA can "lure" you into a buy, or a sell using confidential informants and a lot of other legal ways i won't really get into.

if you willingly go to a coke dealers house to purchase coke, and the cops have him busted and are waiting their for you and you buy the drugs, the cops have a legal right to arrest you for purchasing those drugs. it's not entrapment.

now if the OP was in fact selling coke the police have to make a case on him. first by getting someone to rat on their dealer so the police actually know the person is selling, then by using surveillance and watching him deal wherever he deals. once a buyer comes the police then pull a traffic stop and usually people will waive their rights to a search, and the police find the drugs from the suspected drug dealer. then they have probable cause to know that he is in fact dealing,and bust him. and it just keeps moving up the ranks if that dealer decides to squeal on his dealer.

you're best bet: don't deal in the first place if you don't want to be caught.
if you do get caught, don't snitch, because it's not a sure way out of your mess, the decision is still up to the prosecutor. the cops can lie their ass off all they want to you.
don't talk to the cops, and get a lawyer.

Drugs are illegal, but they shouldn't be. If you think there're any moral lessons to be learned from our drug laws, then you really need to research the history of the role of drugs in society and the history of drug prohibition.

i don't think anyone here (as drug users, including myself) agree with the drug laws, but you can't live in delusions and say they don't exist.

 

[wizekrak]

It's your life, and as such is infinitely more valueable to you than someone elses. Honestly, do what you can to minimize the impact to yourself. There are risks involved in the drug trade, being rated out is one of them. Your dealer knows this.


Honestly you don't owe anyone anything. Get up and get out while you can, which every way works for you.

 

[center]

Op->

Sry abt your bust. Gt Tgthr Sn.

 

[Kalash]

so, yes, there shud b a penalty to ppl who sell these substances
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I won't continue posting in here.
Whoever said to not listen to me, 100% correct.

Don't listen to me.


- DW - your solution to the ~3% of the population that becomes addicted is to threaten the rest of the population with death, imprisonment, and armed robbery if they choose to decide their path to happiness lays down the path of recreational drug use?

I make an assumption here - nearly all meth dealers are addicts.
Nearly all.
Chances are the poster was someone who has fallen victim to addiction - someone that needs help.
The laws prohibit them from sharing their problems with others - they drive them into the dark corers of society - force them to hide their addictions and resort to whatever means they must to maintain their addictions.

Morally I can't support a law that makes the lives of addicts worse. I can't accept a law that imposes violent threats upon the entire population should they choose to exercise their rights of liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Should everyone use drugs? Of course not.
Should addicts be forced away from the people able to help them because of a constant fear of someone with guns coming and stealing all they own, violently accosting them, and dragging them away from their family and friends?
This is moral?

K.
I'm done.
I had to get that out.
Moderate it to your heart's content - or delete it if you want.

Note - I mixed this up with the meth case on the legal board.
Sorry.
Main points still stand. Coke - assuming personal use.
Again - addiction comes into play - no laws, no reason to hide the use.
When use becomes ABUSE, people know what's going on and can guide you back onto a better path.

Laws create secrecy and this secrecy creates the problems you claim the drugs cause.

</rant>

 

[fossilousdorito]

I know this would be hard but give up the cocaine. You need to have your wits about you when dealing with predatory district attorneys. Is your dealer a sociopath?

 

[Khadijah]

Get a good lawyer, see your options and do your time if you end up with any time at all. Most likely they just tryna scare you, and they aint gonna protect your ass neither, just so you know that. they will use you chew you up and spit you out for your information, they dont respect you, they wont take care of you, they wont protect your lil extra curricular activities, they hate you just as much as the ones you narced on.

OT content deleted, sorry lacey. -Johnny1

 

[absent minded]

Busted in a Reverse Sting (merged)

ok, this is exactly how it happened.

i got a text from a guy that said that he was thinking of picking up some more of that blow that was so good, and that i met him while doing lines at my friend Janabububi's house. a couple days later i was really feigning and i called the dude using a fake name obviously. he had me go to a safeway parking lot and while i was chillin reading a magazine and listening to music waiting 6 undercovers come out from the woodworks. lol. six undercovers to bust one kid buying a gram of blow. anyways. they let me go assuming i'm going to snitch on all my coke connections and do undercover buys. but isnt this entrapment? what the fuck..

 

[dankoni]

Arguments can be made on both sides. Since you called him to setup the buy, I'm not sure your entrapment theory would stand up in court.

Either way, they let you go and didn't charge you? You didn't have to sign any sort of agreement to be let go? If that's the case, fuck em anyway!