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scared of acid

I've never taken mushrooms. While I took quite a bit of acid around 10 years ago I an very reluctant to take it again because of the intensity of the experience and that I'm afraid it would bring up a lot of stuff that would disturb me.

I have been thinking about doing mushrooms though, mainly because I haven't done them before and I was under the impression that the experience would be milder than LSD. Am I wrong to think this?
 
Yes I imagine you are probably wrong to think that. From what i've heard about mushrooms, they can be far more intense. Acid just lasts longer.(im just going on what i've heard though) Don't underestimate how intense a psychedelic maybe.
 
Folks it all depends on how much you take both have the capacity to scare the living daylights out of you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This comparison in sdtrength is a non argument , it's about which you prefer!!















zophen (shakes head)
 
I am terrified of LSD. I will never use it. I guarantee that if I were to ingest LSD that I would end up in a fucking loony-bin. And I'm absolutely not saying that LSD drives people insane. I know several people who have used LSD dozens, if not hundreds of times. Coincidentally they are all nuts, in my opinion, but that has nothing to do with their LSD use. But I just know that LSD would drive me insane. The duration itself is absolutely horrifying to me. I thought I'd lost it on several 4 hour mushroom trips, but 8-12 hours on LSD...OH MY LORD! Whatever, I am one of those people who is scared of LSD.
 
Well said zophen, that's why I said it depends on the person really!




SmC( Psychedelic expert all of a sudden!!! j/k)
 
the heavy load of mushrooms is so much more intense. I've had one bad mushroom trip that taught me a lot. When you take any psychedelics you know there is always a chance to freak out, that is part of the deal, learning experience. LSD is just soo psychoanalitycal as you are coming down that it can bring you anxiety, the more experience you are the more you can handle the anxiety as something that passes.
The thing with mushies is that you wake up refreshed, not like LSD that just lingers forever.
 
it also depends on the dosage...
i can imagine 5g of liberty caps willprobably be much more 'frightening' than 1 weak blotter.. vice versa, 300+mics of lsd are probably harder to deal with than 1g of psilocybe mushrooms.

But usually because acid is a 'chemical' most people think it's likely to be more dangerous. I think the 'scary' factor is also that you cannot know exactly how much a blotter contains.. while with mushrooms you can know the exact dose

The thing with mushies is that you wake up refreshed, not like LSD that just lingers forever
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i felt quite refreshed and REBORN after my 3blotters lsd trip...
 
shn()z said:
Silly as it sounds, I think the term itself contributes somewhat. "Acid" is something you generally don't want touching your skin, let alone something you put willingly into your mouth. "Acid" is something that makes stomachs churn, leaves spots in the paint on the hood of your car after a rainstorm, and is useful for dissolving the corpse of the guy you recently murdered who's lying incriminatingly in your bathtub. Surely something that caustic will melt your grey matter like microwaved ricotta, right?
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True. When I was younger, before my drug use began and before I knew anything about them, I imagined acid as this green square of literal, burning acid, that would burn people on the way down and dissolve into a green poisonous mist. And it would make people utterly fucked up and crazy.

Ah, the good old days... 8)
 
Masterofdeception --

Precisely. I just posted elsewhere about how high dose acid put me off of it permanently. At higher doses (LSD > 700 mics and shrooms > 10 grams), the drugs are tremendously different. While both can be overwhelming, there is always a sense of organic sentience, even perhaps benevolence, with mushrooms, whereas with LSD there seems to be a void of pure insanity.

I am afraid of acid because I tripped too hard on it more than once in ways that I cannot adequately describe. I have had many, many scary trips, but only four truly bad acid trips, one of which made me put it away for good.

My most intense mushroom trips cannot compare to the battles I had with myself on high doses of acid. If nothing else, the duration of those bad acid trips was wnough to warrant total cessation. The longest mushroom trip I can recall was at best 15 hours, and that's generous...but I have tripped for forty hours on LSD, and that is nothing I would wish on anybody.
 
Along with propaganda, I think the people who talk about it most are the ones who handled it the worst.
 
IN MY OPINION:

How can anyone say shrooms are more intense than LSD...

Sure today LSD in general is weak and low in the ug range (as far as my network of friends is concerned), but think about the strength of them 10 years go let alone back in the days of 60-70's. People talk about taking 3 or 4 hits of the recent white on whites but seriously they couldnt have had more than 50 ug each (estimates from local veterens).

Ive heard average blotter doses were at least in the 200 ug range if not higher (correct me if I'm wrong) which in my opinion would be FAR more intense than an eighth or even a quarter of potent boomers. Especially when I think back on friends older brothers who dropped acid CONSTANTLY through 99-02 taking 10 strips at a time.

In my time of experimenting with Cid, ive had Einstien (2005), white on whites)2005, 2006), and then was lucky enough to receive a vial of liquid (100 hits which were VERY potent, 1 = 2 or 3 white on whites) I dropped four liquid hits along with a friend and it was INSANE to say the least. It was totally different than just taking low level doses of acid which are easily to manage.

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong in any of my information/etc

Btw I live in the SE.
 
I think you are right about acid being quite weak these days, but i've had a proper acid trip and it wasn't actually that scary. If you embrace it and know what you're doing, you should be fine. Not saying its going to be really easy as it has to be taken seriously, the trouble with people taking acid is there isn't much education about the drug and they end up getting into something they don't know a great deal about.

If you already have this mentality of being scared of a drug, ofcourse you're going to have a bad time on it. And also, obviously stupidly high doses of any drug could lead to a bad time. This is where people fuck up with acid usually.

I'm only saying shrooms are more intense because of what i've read about them.
 
synchrojet said:
Masterofdeception --

Precisely. I just posted elsewhere about how high dose acid put me off of it permanently. At higher doses (LSD > 700 mics and shrooms > 10 grams), the drugs are tremendously different. While both can be overwhelming, there is always a sense of organic sentience, even perhaps benevolence, with mushrooms, whereas with LSD there seems to be a void of pure insanity.

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Well duh. Ofcourse that high a dose is going to give you a bad time. Stop being an idiot and use the drug responsibly. 200-250 mics is about the correct range i think.(Just remember reading this in another thread)
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And of course there are n o possible VERY NEGATIVE consequences from ingesting LSD right? Of course not.

Don't try to tell that to my friend Bumbaloba, who I met in rehab last time. He's so fried out of his mind from acid that he spends his life bouncing from rehab to rehab, hospital to hospital, just mubling nonsense gargon. Though sometimes he makes psychedelic references that are quite funny. And sometimes he is able to put together enough words into a coherent sentence to tell people about him and why he was there. Quite an interesting guy.

But that is an extreme case, no doubt. I'd be very interested to find out though how many people like him there actually are, instead of just brushing it off and saying "Oh acid doesnt hurt anyone, the naysayers are ignorant retards. More for us. Yeah! lets trip!"

Generally speaking though, more often then not a great percentage if not everyone I have ever met that has done acid, has at least one bad trip taht freaks them the fuck out. Many times though it's not intense enough to spur them away from future use of this very interesting compound. However, some people get so freaked out they never touch it again, and it has a profound effect, whether that be positive or negative, on the rest of their life.
 
I could see having a bad experience that steered me away from tripping forever. But I think it would have to be one where I saw that it was having a negative impact on my life, and not one that made me freak out for some other reason. The way I see it, no matter what fucked up things I see on psychedelics, even if my perception of reality is profoundly changed forever (as it has been several times), I just realize that, even if I begin to perceive things in a new way, nothing has actually changed. Just my perception and awareness of it. So what harm has come from it? Nothing.

I've had one particularly terrifying beyond belief trip, on 2C-E, and it was definitely far more than I could handle. I thought seriously about killing myself, and I also was very close to calling 911. But in retrospect, like all of my trips, I'm glad for the experience, although I'd never repeat the circumstances that led to that experience again. I've certainly not been scared away from tripping.
 
yes, acid is weak these days from what ive heard by comparison to back in the day, but thats not relevent. im talking relative doses. when im just past the point of being able to comunicate on acid i feel like everything is new. i feel like a kid seeing things for the first times. i want to go out and look at everything. when im on a dose of shrooms that puts me in a similarly incoherent state i sit completely introverted. i will find myself picturing a human body and wondering why the fuck we look like that. i question everything and sit by myself contemplating it all. i love both honestly. my origional question though was about peoples fear about every trying acid. i ask this mainly because when i first took acid i felt like timothy fuckin leary and that everyone i knew was missing out. i saw people on e and thought how much they were missing with such a fake forced feel of love when on acid it felt real and like it was opened up from within me, not forced upon me. i looked at people who had never done drugs who i thought could learn so much. and how everyone could learn so much. well, i tried to give it free to many friends and they would not take it. i was shocked. i still am. i wish people would let me share it with them because it is beautiful.
 
Xorkoth said:
I could see having a bad experience that steered me away from tripping forever. But I think it would have to be one where I saw that it was having a negative impact on my life, and not one that made me freak out for some other reason. The way I see it, no matter what fucked up things I see on psychedelics, even if my perception of reality is profoundly changed forever (as it has been several times), I just realize that, even if I begin to perceive things in a new way, nothing has actually changed. Just my perception and awareness of it. So what harm has come from it? Nothing.

I've had one particularly terrifying beyond belief trip, on 2C-E, and it was definitely far more than I could handle. I thought seriously about killing myself, and I also was very close to calling 911. But in retrospect, like all of my trips, I'm glad for the experience, although I'd never repeat the circumstances that led to that experience again. I've certainly not been scared away from tripping.
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YOUR PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING. That is all there really is anyways. You speak of warping your perception as there is no significance to it because it's just your perception. You really must not value your own life at all. But then again you write, "If it was having a negative impact on my life". You don't find freakouts that are so bad people end up in psychewards negative to ones own life? What about my last trip where I was a "pussy" and I alerted my parents and they were able to get me to the hospital. Probably the wrong move eh? Nothing actually changed right? Oh that's right because everything is the same and it is all sub atomic particles, blah blah etc. Oh wait, never mind, I actually care about not only my existence but my friend's and family. Shit what a wild concept.

Later.
 
Zzz...

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. An open one, probably worse.
 
In reading all the post it sounds that there are a few people that based their comments on what they heard or seen about acid or mushrooms. It would be nice to hear only personal experience, because you never know what lays behind other people's madness.
Regardless of acid, everyone is afraid to go nuts one way or another.
So yes, tripping is taking on a risk, like anything else in life
 
^Do you realize what webpage you are on? It's pretty safe to say most everyone here is speaking from personal experience. That's basically what this forum is for. It's mostly experience based. We can't help it if some PHD chemists come in and try to run the show though. :D

"So yes, tripping is taking on a risk, like anything else in life." Yes, but I think most people tend to realize the actual extent and seriousness and reality of the potential risk. I think this truth is way underemphasized so much often because what people hear from the government, DARE, anti-drug organizations. It really ends up skewing things around too much. Because then people start to think most anything that is said about drugs is false. I can't even remember how many times and how many different people i've seen go fucking crazy, temporarily, on a bad acid trip...or whatever psychedelic. It's not a pretty thing. In my own life experiences, I'd estimate around 50-70% of the people I've known that tripped, and once they had a bad trip, they never tried again..or maybe only once or twice after. No joke.
 
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