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[Salvia Subthread] Salvia not Working

If you can't get a real bong, look online and make one out of a 2 liter soda bottle or something. And the butane lighter is key. You've really got to torch the hell out of salvia.

Take a huge rip. Hold it as long as you can. Take another huge rip. Hold it until you lose your mind. Profit.
 
Its possible you got some bunk stuff too or you may just not be feeling it right now.

The first two times I tried salvia, nothing happened. The third time was the charm, blew me off my feet. Take a week or so break and try again. Be careful and be safe. Sally doesn't need any more bad press.
 
No break needed, Salvia has reverse tolerance, the more you smoke, the higher you get!

so, use a bong because the smoke will be harsh as fuck, torch the shit out of it preferably with a butane lighter, and hold it in as long as you can until you reach the transdimensional cosmic carnival<3
 
I know a bunch of people that did'nt feel any effects from 20x salvia, thats including myself. Prior to that batch I had great experiences with 35x salvia, but everybody is different, actually a friend of mine said she had a deeply moving experience with just the 10x variety. You just gotta relax, dont expect to much...one day you'll just be like oh I have some salvia left, next thing you know you'll be pleasantly surprised!
 
Torching the hell out of it is a good suggestion since I thought the opposite. And I was using my kitchen torch to light it. I did feel like gravity was pulling me down a little but that's it. So I should see a bunch of little orange specs when I light it instead of a couple? Is it kind of ecstasy where if you think and worry about getting high then it won't be as good? I also was unsure of how much to put in the pipe. I have some left but I think I'll wait until I can use a bong.

Could the fact that I'm on bupropion anti depressants be a possible reason.
 
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I've tried salvia many times while not on any daily medications or anything, torching it with a butane and using all sorts of smoking devices, holding it in for 30-40 seconds, taking 2-3 full hits, etc. It's worked visually *once* and put me in a weird altered headspace a few times, other than that I get weird body sensations and that's about it usually. Some people just don't respond well to smoked salvia extract.
 
just an update
i smoked it again last night.
And it was the most amazing experience I've ever had...
Period.
 
Endymion00 said:
just an update
i smoked it again last night.
And it was the most amazing experience I've ever had...
Period.
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What did you do differently because I had the same problem with 20x. I only have a pipe right now. I smoked it for about 10 minutes and I only felt some gravity and that's it.
 
don't I remember something about a reverse tolerance with salvia? maybe smoking it twice in rapid succession did it for you man.
 
try smoking a higher extract and also make sure you light it correctly.

With salvia you want to use a torch lighter or if you are using a regular bic then make sure you hold the flame to the bowl the entire time you are hitting.
Salvinorin needs a higher temp to vaporize then other herbs we're used to smoking ;)
 
torch lighter isn't needed. just hold the BIC flame over the salvia the entire time you are taking the hit.
 
use a grav bong!
or use a regular bong
get a higher strength
take huge hits in succession
 
Ya I use BICs and they work fine, just make sure the flame hits the salvia. I've done it twice and both times tripped HARD. Not just like pretty hard, like fucking new dimension, end of the world shit with *ZERO* awareness of my self in the real world. First time was on 30x and I was in this unconscious state for 10min, second time on 60x and closer to 15-20min. I still have recollections randomly of my salvia trips, and every once in a while something will happen around me that brings memories back of how I felt while I was tripping. I guess these are what people call "flashbacks" although they are mild.

It makes sense because each time I did it I had forgotten that I smoked salvia so I truly thought the earth was over and I had to live the rest of my life in this new reality. I had no idea how to function since physics were completely different and I was being stuck to a huge surface from behind. But each time I tried to get up to see what I was laying on, I was pulled back because I was being held back by my very own skin which was attached to the surface. Essentially, only the front half of my body continued to exist while the back half became one with the surface I was laying on. The harder I tried to escape, the harder I was pulled back. I gave it all my will and strength but the planet sized surface I was now a piece of, denied any escape. I could feel myself getting exhausted and running out of breath, realizing there was no escape I let it all go. I just laid back, breathed deeply and let nature carry on its existence. If I was to live, I would. If death was set out for me, then I had already accepted it. The difference between living and death had never been so small, almost non-existent. I waited for my fate as invisible layers of force came down on me like pages in a book, moving through me to my back, and separating me from the large body of mass I was attached to. Slowly I became an independent being again. Colors were forming in front of me and I could hear familiar sounds, repetitive but familiar. As I looked to my side I saw a familiar sound. Wait, what? Saw sound? There about 5 or 6 little blue creatures about the size of gremlins to the left of me. They looked at me with their wide eyes, but I knew exactly what these creatures were! The creature they were represented a familiar buzzing noise. I could hear their noise in my head as I looked at them, but not when I didn't look at them.

Finally I could faintly hear the voices of my friends. SALVIA! That's why I'm so fucked up right now! As I tried to sit up, I had to exert as much force as possible to complete my separation from the massive surface I was once a part of. As I slowly detached from the surface, I just as slowly became aware of my surroundings. I felt like I was taking my first breath in ages. When I finally came to (well, enough to slur out a few words and hold myself upright) I noticed that I had moved about 10 feet from my original position and I was covered in sweat.

Only a few people I have talked to have experienced salvia to this level. It's absolutely nothing like a mushroom or acid trip, and it's not a "fun" drug. But it sure as hell takes you for a ride!
 
Khain said:
Only a few people I have talked to have experienced salvia to this level. It's absolutely nothing like a mushroom or acid trip, and it's not a "fun" drug. But it sure as hell takes you for a ride!
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I know what you're talking about. Here is the trip report for one of my strange Salvia trips.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=328488

Definitely not a "fun" drug, but definitely provides insight to your life.
 
Salvia Not Working

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5x. 10x. 20x. Water in bong. No water in bong. Torch lighter. Regular lighter. Held in for 30 seconds, 40 seconds, entire minute. Closed eyes. Opened eyes. Dark with silence or music. Light with silence or music.

I've tried combinations of all those things with no success for breaking through. How. can. this. be. I've seen the most un-face-like objects turn into faces, and all forms would turn human-like. I've felt the sinking sensation of merging, but only lightly. But I haven't broken through. I know what breaking through is like and it's the best I've ever had and I want to do it again with Salvia alone, not with other drugs in the mix.

The only time I've ever broken through with Salvia was while also on DXM. Magical. Out of body experience. Couldn't tell if eyes were open or closed. I flew. I saw. I felt. I experienced.

On Salvia alone, I only get a bizarre shift in reality with no closed eye visuals and I retain the ability to walk around extremely confused. I'm still aware that I'm in my room, it's just that I feel as if there are humanoid faces staring at me, making things creepy. Let me explain what it's like to almost breakthrough: you attempt to disappear from a room into another dimension, but your device fails and you are left in that room with a bunch of strange, staring face. You feel the crushing defeat, you desperately wish you were where you thought you'd be, and you feel awkward just sitting around with these hallucinations staring at you.

Once or twice, I've gone to amnesia (on 10x... STRANGE). This makes me feel as if Salvia is just fickle.

What am I doing wrong? Do I really have to smoke the entire gram of 20x to breakthrough on Salvia alone like I did with Salvia + DXM? Should I hold my breath for a minute and a half? Should I keep smoking for like 3 minutes, non-stop?

Now. I feel that I deserve to go for higher extracts. I've been nothing but responsible, I never posted a Youtube video of myself. I followed all the rules. All the rules down the letter! I respected the drug. I was patient. I tried many times. I calmed down, I relaxed. But still, no breakthrough. I have no idea why or what I did wrong.

I'm beginning to suspect that you-know-who was giving out mislabeled extracts. 20x shouldn't possibly be this hard to breakthrough on.

I want to get 60x, but is that going to be a ripoff no matter where I go? If I can't breakthrough on 60x, then something is wrong with me. Please give me your opinions on this situation.


You know, no one has ever asked this before:

Is salvia an expensive high? Am I supposed to view that 5x as something to do all at once? Same for the 20x? I've always thought you could breakthrough like 10 or 20 times on a gram of extract if you smoked it correctly, but now I'm beginning to think that a breakthrough costs half a gram or even an entire gram in one sitting.
 
IIRC, there is no physical way to make 60x and 80x extracts, because that would be pure salvinorin with no leaf carrier. Avoid brands that advertise these ridiculous numbers.

Have you tried quidding the leaf? It might help you set up a "launch pad" for your smoked experience.
 
greenmeanies said:
IIRC, there is no physical way to make 60x and 80x extracts, because that would be pure salvinorin with no leaf carrier. Avoid brands that advertise these ridiculous numbers.

Have you tried quidding the leaf? It might help you set up a "launch pad" for your smoked experience.
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Going to try that one day since it's technically salvia alone.

I don't know if quidding + plain leaf can = breakthrough. That's what I'm in this for, anyway.

What is the most you can make? 30x?

Could it be that I have to somehow inhale half a gram or more of Salvia to breakthrough on it by itself?
 
Torch lighter first of all, not VITAL but very useful

second... with 20X you should use at least a full 0.1 gram, one tenth of a gram. and if that doesn't work at all, double that dose. this may be a bit overboard but a bit over a 0.1 gram usually worked for me.

with 30X a full point can usually get you in a full shift of consiousness

EDIT: god this stuff is weird!
 
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