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[Salvia Subthread] Salvia not Working

you might be a "salvia-hardhead"...some people just naturally need stronger/plentiful amounts in order to feel some sort of effect. i've smoked 40x before and have gotten amazing visuals on it, i suggest just using a torch lighter and a bong if getting the above mentioned doesn't work, or both.
 
Salvia Divinorum - What's the problem ?

Hello,
I've tried salvia 3 times, but everytime with almost no effect. What's wrong?
First time I smoked 0,2g of 10x extract in 3 bowls, second time 0,9g of salvia leaves in 2 bowls, third time 0,2g of 10x extract and 0,2g of salvia leaves in 3 bowls.
I used torch lighter, held it something about 25 seconds and everytime I smoked all bowls in 2 minutes.
Can anyone tell me what's wrong ? :\
Thank you.
 
ummm. You seem to be doing everything right. Are you holding the flame on the leaves while you inhale?

I've read about some people just being unusually insensitive to salvia, perhaps you're one of them. In that case just try a stronger extract. Plain leaves don't do much for most people I don't think.
 
I've heard it said that a certain proportion of the human population are simply inexplicably resistant to the effects of salvia. I have no idea where this information is coming from, so I don't know how well substantiated it is, but supposedly it's true. Who knows?
 
Pans-Advocate said:
I've heard it said that a certain proportion of the human population are simply inexplicably resistant to the effects of salvia. I have no idea where this information is coming from, so I don't know how well substantiated it is, but supposedly it's true. Who knows?
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Yeah, according to http://www.sagewisdom.org/faq.html, the website of a guy called Daniel Siebert, one of the most prominent salvia researchers:

'Approximately 10% of people are unusually insensitive to salvinorin A. Most of these people can achieve a satisfactory level of effects by using a higher than average dose. Some people require a dose several times higher than average. Be very cautious when experimenting with higher than average doses. Doses should be increased in gradual increments until one find the level of effects that interests you.'

So to the OP, I'd try a 40x extract or something in that region.
 
If you're getting nothing from 0.2g of 10X, try the same dose of 20X. If that does nothing, then try the same dose of 40X. If it does something, go to 0.3g of 20X before you go to 0.2g of 40X.

I'm exceptionally sensitive to salvia I guess ... I had CEVs and strong body feelings on a single bong rip of 5X, and when I took the same amount of 10X I lost consciousness and had an out-of-body experience for 5 minutes. It was really unpleasant. Don't double any dose unless its effects were negligible.
 
mind-explorer said:
OK, I will buy 40x next time. What dose of 40x should I smoke ?
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You shouldn't really need to measure out an accurate dose. For me 1 big hit of 40x was plenty. I doubt you'd need anything more than one bowl, even if you are insensitive. A trip-sitter is a must with extracts that strong though!
 
It really baffles me how you guys van smoke huge bowls of salvia and manage to keep it in, I mean I like to think my lungs are tough, I van smoke huuuge bowls of weed when I want to, but salvia just brings out the inner cough :(
 
I had a same problem with salvia first time. How cool water do you use ? Try to add ice cubes to your bong or put the water on balcony for half an hour - it's winter now. It really helps me when I have to take a huge hits.
 
There is no reason to smoke multiple bowls of salvia extract. A big hit or two should be plenty. My first breaktrhough was on one hit of 20x and it was pretty extreme and intense.

But you're doing it right, with a torch lighter and holding it in for 30(ish) seconds.

Try different sources. Sounds to me like you have some bad salvia.
 
Yeah, the truth is I didn't buy it from shop, but from my good friend, who buys it from internet. I believe him, but I will try buy it by myself.
 
10x had no effect on me whatsoever. I would have rather smoked a bowl and called that a better "trip".

Then I bought 30x from a headshop. One bowl had me out of body. Have a sitter. One of my trips, I thought I had gotten psychosis (the trip lasted ~4 min, but seemed like days). I was glad I had a friend there.
 
Pah 40x is shite, I did a fat bong of some 40x Extracted salvia im talking like 0.35g held the ligher to it while inhaling held the smoke in for as long as possible I didnt have any trip or anything just felt a pressure on my forehead for about 20minutes then it went away, Salvia for me = Shite!
 
[Subthread] Salvia Not Working

I wasn't sure where to put this exactly. I don't even know if salvia is considered a psychedelic. It's a hallucinogen right?
In any case, last night I tried 25x of salvia for the first time. I had an experienced sitter with me and he took the first hit. We used a small water pipe and then tried a pipe afterwords to see if it made any difference. For about thirty seconds it looked as though he felt a little something...but really all he felt was slurred speech, a few minor visuals and a weird pulling sensation on the body. He tried smoking more but not much else happened. Then his friend tried. Same effect
Finally I decided it was my time to make an attempt.
I held the hit in for as long as I could. It also may not have been a big hit, but it certainly felt like one. Maybe my lungs are still too virgin to smoke.
I can't say I felt anything. No visuals at all. My body did feel like it was being pulled back though.
Am I going into the trip expecting too much? From the reports I've been reading I've been looking forward to some intense ride into another dimension or something.
We think that the extract he bought may have been a rip off, only 5x or something. We bought it at a local headshop...but it didn't even come in one of those fancy cases or anything. It was just a small baggie.
so he's going to buy some more this weekend from a more reliable store. Same amount I believe. He's fairly sure this store is more legit anyway. Sangsters I think its called.
 
Salvia is weird, and I never had much luck with it - only got visuals once. It's also fairly disturbing and not at all similar to acid or mushrooms - it's a psychedelic, but a very peculiar one. It operates on completely different receptors than the "classic" psychedelics (they all operate on the 5HT2a serotonin receptor system; salvinorin-a, the active chemical in salvia, actually operates on mu-opioid receptors, strangely enough).
 
Well I'm looking primarily for visuals, as that sounds like an exciting experience to me. Perhaps I'm a little over eager. But if this next attempt doesn't work out I guess I'll just move onto something else. :/
 
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