[Salvia Subthread] Salvia not Working

[It's a baby!]

Somewhere online; check on some other forums for more specific recommendations as that's not allowed here. Or just google "salvia divinorum"

 

[fizzacyst]

Yes, I'd wager anything they straight up jacked you. That what most headshops do anyway. Those $100 glass pieces? They cost like $5 to make, man.

They do the same with stuff like salvia, and now I see dusty old packets of kratom capsules for sale at some. I wish they'd fucking give up on wrecking all this shit for everyone already. Some shops are good, but they are few and far between (which, IMO, makes the salvia thing even more dangerous, as I get the feeling people think it is mild from using this low grade garbage)

Source discussion isn't really allowed here though man, sorry (its for everyone's safety). My personal recommendation, if thats what you are asking for, would be to locate a place where you can find buy your own plant to raise to maturity, make your extracts from that, and root/give cuttings to friends to help spread the (probably very limited) gene pool far and wide before it becomes illegal everywhere.

If you look hard enough, you'll find what you want. Its not hard to come by.

Just please be very conservative and careful with your doses. Do NOT smoke 1/3 grams of anything REMOTELY close to what you thought you were buying. I promise you that you will regret it, and it might seriously scar you mentally.

Start slow, work up. Take care of your friends and make sure they do the same.

 

[CrazyDiamond67]

I've always heard that some people are relatively unaffected by salvia, especially ont he first time

 

[OrneTTe]

Yea, that was definitely some bogus extract. 40x is really strong, there really isn't any need for anything over 20x IMO. I don't think you were missing much as I don't care for Salvia, but that is bullshit that you got scammed. Headshops are usually pretty shitty unless you actually know the people that own it, and a good headshop in my opinion is one that cares more about selling good glass art than trying to make a bunch of money off of kids that may or may not be of legal age and legal highs.

 

[Damien]

...
and man, I have taken some (what I will admit are) flat-out stupid doses of hallucinogens before.. and they were nothing compared to this. seconds after it kicked in, I didn't even know I had smoked a drug. I was vaguely aware of being human for another couple seconds, and then it all faded away and I completely parted with reality. The last thing I remember was thinking, "gravity seems to be pulling me backwards instead of down... how odd.. I wonder if I could somehow calculate the amount of force being put on my body by this new grav... HOLY FUCKING SHITFUCK!!!!..."

Colors and shapes and stuff? its orders of magnitude beyond that. those things don't even compute in salvia-land. It has scared the shit out of me each and every time, and I'm pretty seasoned with psychedelics. Its like dying, or becoming a spiritual cog in the inner workings of the universe, living ut alternate lives, indescribable things.

please be careful.

I have a feeling that had it worked, you'd have very desperately wished that it hadn't.

GREAT post Fizzy! I agree with this %110!

 

[bluemoonstone]

I dont like salvia......i was confused in a non enjoyable fashion....all three times...i even ate it fresh green leaf.....na no good that salvia

 

[pkt]

I heard you have to use one of those jet flame lighters but i couldnt tell you if thats true since i've never smoked salvia.

 

[Damien]

lol the jet flame thing cracks me up. I would almost chalk that up to like a salvia myth or something. I have always used a bic lighter and a small pipe to blast off.

 

[dankoni]

Yes, I'd wager anything they straight up jacked you. That what most headshops do anyway. Those $100 glass pieces? They cost like $5 to make, man.

And how much did the Mona Lisa cost to paint again? Glass work is art. You cannot base the price on the cost of materials...

 

[fizzacyst]

I was just trying to illustrate a point. Most of the pipes I see in shops are crap anyway man (like the salvia). I buy glass from glassblowers.

 

[Aopocetx]

lol the jet flame thing cracks me up. I would almost chalk that up to like a salvia myth or something. I have always used a bic lighter and a small pipe to blast off.

Yep, me too. I used a small shitty metal pipe. I think the reason people tell you to use a torch lighter is so you can smoke the whole bowl in one hit. You can do the same thing by leaving the bic flame on the bowl the whole time (this is how you're supposed to smoke it).

 

[StagnantReaction]

I've heard that a small portion of the population cannot feel effects from sally. Happened to a friend of mine. It sucks because usually they're quite curious, but I try to tell them that they're not missing much, at all. I'd feel a lot worse if it was a substance that gives you euphoria or something meaningful.

You could always try buying leaves from a respectable seller, and enhancing the leaf yourself to be sure.

 

[l_6]

i find the trip to be nothing like weed. I find my self outside my body and its more of a spiritual trip. I smoke three bowls and i get non visual trip.

 

[Hackerjack27]

I just recently tried again from a more legit source. It still didn't give me the breakthrough I was looking for. It was 10x and I used a small pipe and a torch lighter. It did however, make me laugh my brains out and feel extremely uncomfortable (almost claustrophobic inside my own body). I disliked it quite a bit, but like I said before, I saw nothing. I'm not about to buy salvia again and that's a shame. I was hoping for a once in a lifetime experience.

 

[eDDe9]

I had half a gram of 60x.. divided it up into 3.

Smoked the first two and didn't fully break through but had some cool feelings. Same as my mate who had the other half a gram.

Then we had some glasses of wine and smoked the final load each using two normal lighters and just holding it in through the pain (the wine helped with that) and then just got transported as I almost passed out from lack of oxygen.

One of my favourite nights ever

 

[EntheoDjinn]

.................... I was hoping for a once in a lifetime experience.

Go for a breakthrough experience - you won't be disappointed. Terrified perhaps, but disappointed no

 

[FILTHY44]

Are you on anything else?? Meds, antidepressents?

Cause me and my brother smoked some lst month and I got wasted out of my head off of 2 hits and he said he got nothig out of it..

He taks oc and some antidpress everday I think that might have something to do with it cause he took like 6 or 7 hits and nothing...

 

[MynameisnotDeja]

lol the jet flame thing cracks me up. I would almost chalk that up to like a salvia myth or something. I have always used a bic lighter and a small pipe to blast off.

I used a normal lighter for part of my last trip too.
I didn't break through, but I still had a decent mid level trip.
When I smoked with the jet lighter, nothing different occured. Same thing, decent, mid level trip.

I had to smoke a LOT of it to trip though, like bowl after bowl after bowl.

 

[5-HT2]

With good extract, one or two big hits taken out of a regular bowl, with a regular lighter, should be enough to induce an OBE (in the right setting) if you do not have a high innate tolerance. With normal leaves (e.g. a 1X, non-concentrated preparation) I have not been able to break through, but smoking it out of a bong seems to get me closer.

 

[cegli]

With good extract, one or two big hits taken out of a regular bowl, with a regular lighter, should be enough to induce an OBE (in the right setting) if you do not have a high innate tolerance. With normal leaves (e.g. a 1X, non-concentrated preparation) I have not been able to break through, but smoking it out of a bong seems to get me closer.

Yeah, I agree.

I made my own 10x extract, and I easily broke through on 50mg. Everyone who's tried it seems to at least get moderate effects on 20-25mg, so sometimes I question the quality of store bought 40x/60x extracts.

If those were actually that strong, I might break through on 8mgs which would be pretty dangerous to people without good scales.

Good luck with it, I always had a good time with lower doses, but the breakthrough scared the shit out of me. Not really interested in doing that again for a while .

All these experiments were out of a bong with water in it, normal bic lighter, and taken in one hit, by the way.