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Roadside Drug Testing (QLD)

if you have a passion for the police force splatt, do something with it. the QPF sadly is suffering in terms of numbers; and are always looking for new recruits to join the force.

alternatively; schoolies week is just around the corner and they are always needing "senior helpers" to aid those who have taken ridiculous amounts of substance(s); while awaiting medical help or; simply have someone in the know let them know they are going to be ok and provide an avenue of safety until they are safe to leave.

...kytnism...:|
 
Umm the Surfers ones don't really like me. They're too corrupt. I know all about them. But a lot of Queensland police from every areas do come down for schoolies. I'm pretty sure they have chill out zones for people who have drank too much and what not where the youngins can sit and eat fruit and drink water. Well there used to be. Should enquiore about that. I don't really like being in Surfers Paradise ever, especially on the streets.

Last time I went there me and my mate were threatened by a group of older lads with a knife down a back street asking for our wallets, but we had wads of cash in there, we simply wouldn't give it over. Anyway, in the end we got away, but my stupid loud mouth said somewthing back to the guy that first said something to us, to "lure" us down a back street before the rest of his gang came. So he charged after me and started "fighting me" Which in Surfers terms means he was hugging me while ripping my tshirt. Apparently thats how a fight works up there. Anyway i was on meth so I was thinking ahead too much and before I knew it I was about to really hurt him so I decided to just run away.

I wouldn't mind stopping incidents like this because I bet there was like 10 people before us that just handed over their wallets as soon as they saw a knife being flashed. And whats a kid from another city or plkace going to do without his wallet. No money, no cards, No ID,maybe lose his hotel/unit key.. Some real scum come out at Schoolies, along with Toolies who wanna try pick up 16-18yo drunken passed out girls.

I have passions for way too much areas, theyre all pretty much in helping people. Health, harm minimisation, psychology, medecine, pharmacology, drug counselling etc. and much more are all trhings I want to do.. so much to choose, yet only one life!! Hard! ;)


Anyway this has gotten way off topic...

Can I start the topic again by asking a question?


HOW many people will roadside testing put off in QLD, ESPECIALLY after events and big days where the drug bus would be in operation, if you smoked cannabis that day or did ecstasy four or more hours ago, if you currently drive under these circumstances, or drive stoned all the time?
 
Splatt said:
Can I start the topic again by asking a question?


HOW many people will roadside testing put off in QLD, ESPECIALLY after events and big days where the drug bus would be in operation, if you smoked cannabis that day or did ecstasy four or more hours ago, if you currently drive under these circumstances, or drive stoned all the time?

I used to have about 1/2 point meth before band rehearsal and drive home after wards to finish it off. Home by about 11.30pm

Now I can't bring myself to do that. I know I drive fine on 1/2 point. MORE alert if anything...but I have a full time job etc etc and I can't afford to be without a license.

I would never drive on Alcohol or pills. Ever.

And thanks to your post about your Dad's mate, I now wash my hands religiously before leaving the band room ...even if all I did was stash it away!
 
Lawyer warns of drug-driving law legal challenges
November 15, 2007 11:05:00

A Toowoomba criminal lawyer warns the Queensland Government could face legal challenges from people charged under new drug-driving laws.

Nathan Bouchier says police will soon be able to conduct roadside tests for drug-driving.

But he says the Government has not defined what levels of drugs are needed to impair a driver's judgment.

"It does raise a lot of questions that the courts have to deal with, specifically is someone who returns a positive test under the influence of the drug within the meaning of the law and if so what levels are we going to have?" he said.

"It seems that if the Government's not going to specify the relevant levels, there's going to be a lot more litigation on this issue."

ABC Online
 
So i guess the lack of news on this topic lately means that the police are either bogged down in legal mumbo jumbo or that they are secretly preparing for an all out christmas blitz. Actually im starting to think both ....
 
Dodgy drivers face holiday hurdles
November 15, 2007 - 5:02PM

Roadside drug testing will begin in Queensland next month, with Police Minister Judy Spence promising the toughest Christmas policing on the state's roads yet.

Over the coming holiday season drivers on Queensland roads will be monitored by covert police vehicles, known as Q-cars, as well as fixed speed cameras, and face drug tests for the first time.

Police on the Gold Coast would also be able to confiscate cars driven by repeat speeding offenders, or those fitted with illegal modifications.

Ms Spence said drug testing would save lives, with research showing six per cent of motorists admitted to driving after using illegal drugs.

"It will be the toughest Christmas ever for Queensland drivers," she told reporters in Brisbane on Thursday.

Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said based on drug testing in Victoria, around 10 drivers would test positive each week - but he expected more.

"I think it's a sleeper, and it's a hidden contributor to the road toll," he said.

Last year, alcohol and drugs were identified as a contributing factor in 106 fatalities in Queensland, or 32 per cent of the road toll.

From December 1, anyone who tests positive to drugs behind the wheel can be fined up to $1,050 and be suspended from driving for up to nine months for their first offence.

The two-step saliva tests will detect marijuana, speed, ice and ecstasy.

An advertising campaign informing drivers about the testing process begins next week.

Meanwhile, Mr Atkinson says the state is waiting for the next "breakthrough" to cut the road toll.

This year's toll is likely to reach 400 for the first time in 12 years.

In 1973, there were 638 deaths, until a media campaign got the toll below 550, he said.

"Thirty-five years on almost, here we are, we had 335 road deaths last year, we have a far greater population, far more motorists, far more vehicles, and yet the road toll is about 300 less," Mr Atkinson said.

"What we need now is the next breakthrough, whatever that might prove to be."

Brisbane Times
 
time traveler said:
So i guess the lack of news on this topic lately means that the police are either bogged down in legal mumbo jumbo or that they are secretly preparing for an all out christmas blitz. Actually im starting to think both ....

Id say the same ! There are a few civil lawyers up here that may have a field day with things not properly worked out by police. :)
 
^^Thanks ducky you read my mind

lil angel15 said:
In 1973, there were 638 deaths, until a media campaign got the toll below 550, he said.

"Thirty-five years on almost, here we are, we had 335 road deaths last year, we have a far greater population, far more motorists, far more vehicles, and yet the road toll is about 300 less," Mr Atkinson said.

OK lets see according to Goverment Statistics

in 1973 there were 2million people in Queensland and 638 road deaths

in Quensland 2006 there were 4 million people and 335 road deaths

So thats easy, twice the population, half the deaths

"What we need now is the next breakthrough, whatever that might prove to be."


What The fuck ? Excuse me but the numbers just said we have now double the population and half the deaths with probably twice the population on drugs. If i could get an engine to be twice as powerful and emit half the heat it would be an engineering miracle.

Mr Atkinson your a fucking idiot. Same goes to any party responsible for proliferating this garbage. Reduce the road toll ? I havent seen any data that says drug driving tests have reduced the road toll even slightly. It just seems they are intent on destroying more people's livelyhoods on this bullshit war on drugs.

Stop the inanity !
 
Roadside Drug Teting (QLD).

Hey I am just wondering but I have been seeing alot of commercials on tv lately about roadside drug testing starting on Dec 1st.... Anyways does anybody know what drugs they test for? Also how long after you have taken it can they still test for it? If anybody know's any info from it in other states please let me know... Thanks.
 
There are already a number of threads on this topic for both QLD and the other states.

I'm going to merge this with the current QLD roadside drug testing thread.

If you use the search engine you will see the threads regarding the other states.

:)
 
If I can find out info I'll tell you where the stops in SE QLD are most likely to be. And if they will be testing everyone stopped.. but its something I have to milk out of a copper when he is drunk.
 
^So are you saying they will need get the locations approved before hand ?

I heard the tests take 5 mins so i doubt they will be stopping everyone. Wonder if they will let taxis through like they do with RBTs

Also i remember reading they had funding for 20,000 tests per year. So there is a good chance there will be a much higher concentration of testing this December then you will ever see, Ever.

So i guess there is no word yet on the thresholds for certain drugs ? I remember hearing that it would be 2 hours plus for a marijuana cigarette. This is information that is deliberately being suppressed. If it is 0.05 for alcohol then i dont see why drug use should be any different.

If all drugs were being targeted i would feel alot less enraged about this situation than as i do now. The fact is heroin and cocaine are pretty much the two most evil drugs one can consume and they arent being tested. This is just fucking insane. Congratulations QLD goverment. Instead of kids taking soft drugs like pills and weed, you are FORCING them into hard drugs. Give it a few years, the market will change dramatically to support the undetectable substances. This silly policy will poison a generation. It will hurt us all.
 
Taxis and Limo drivers already get drug tested by their companies.. although.. the bosses that know who smoke pot etc. tell them before hand so they can dry out for a day... if they fail they get a caution, fail again, a ban, temp or perm. They know sdmoking bongs after doing 10pm-4pm shifts are fucked and they want a cone after work top have a good nap.

But it doesnt sday anywhere that taxis and limos wont get pulled over.. I know a limo driver that was pulled over for being over the limit and he got a 6 month drivers license loss....

I would consider bongs a better way to pass drug tests after a smoke out over a joint or pipe for obvious reasons (the quickness of absorbtion)

They will mostly likely (for stops, not random pull overs) use the same stops as always because they are comnvenient, and normally always have a no through road just before the RBT unit to trick people, which gives police consent to test them.

But imj sure they will target valley events more.. so people coming from the Valley MNatro car park are probably going to get hitr up if they go the wrong way, via a bus. They will reseach which ways people normally go.

They will most likely at stages use clearways (fucking upo coty/valley parking at night) to test randomly or people they suspect from a distance are drug driving from make of car, number of people, wehat they look like (race, young, old etc..) Most likely be a radio plain clothes or cop further down the road to communicate their license plate and car makes to make sure theyre pulled over and tested.

But i recckon over SE QLD theyll use the same old tired ass places they always use for this. A new one I've heard is the Currubin (southbound) bridge at night. Easy access to be forced into the carpark they are building and alot of space on the side odf tyhe road.. Tugin and Boracdbeach will also be used.. Brisbane the usual spots...

Ill try get some info. For the people who arent effected by druigs but the tests will still show positives. But if you're an ice/speed/meth drivcer who keeps staying up and drivinbg, please get busted.. you'll save youjr own life and othewrs.

SLEEPING AKA MICROSLEEPS CAUSE MORE DEATHS OR ACCIDENTS THAN DRINK DRIVING
 
Hmm, been reading and trying to find alot of information about this roadside drug testing..

I'm not concerned about driving 5 hours after having a pill.. more the next day? How long does it actually take for the MDMA etc to get out of your saliva??

I generally take about 5 pills a night when in the valley...will that still show up strong at about 10am the next morning??

I don't smoke weed, but i've got mates that do..and i've been near them while smoking etc.. i don't want to get done for something i'm not doing!!

Plus if i was to test positive, does that give them the right to search my car?

I've already been searched twice in the valley, aparrently i wasn't carrying... ;) Once i was in my rave pants...i'm guessing that explains the reason for a search :P

I just don't want to be done for something that i choose to do to my body..i'm not putting anyones life in danger but myself and i never drive under the influence of anything, alcohol or drugs!!
 
awaken88 said:
Hmm, been reading and trying to find alot of information about this roadside drug testing..

I'm not concerned about driving 5 hours after having a pill.. more the next day? How long does it actually take for the MDMA etc to get out of your saliva??

I generally take about 5 pills a night when in the valley...will that still show up strong at about 10am the next morning??

I don't smoke weed, but i've got mates that do..and i've been near them while smoking etc.. i don't want to get done for something i'm not doing!!

Plus if i was to test positive, does that give them the right to search my car?

I've already been searched twice in the valley, aparrently i wasn't carrying... ;) Once i was in my rave pants...i'm guessing that explains the reason for a search :P

I just don't want to be done for something that i choose to do to my body..i'm not putting anyones life in danger but myself and i never drive under the influence of anything, alcohol or drugs!!


stay away from that church!!! ;)
.. it depends if the pill has meth in it (if theyre cheap brisbane pills, most likely have some in it)

might be time to taxi.


although, ill let you in on a little secret.. QLD police are much understaffed than most "party" states. and have less money (rudd will change that though..?) so there will be times.... just watch their reportsd closely on their website under media release www.police.qld.gov.au it will give you a pattern of when drink driving or drug crackdown/sniffer operations occur.. theyre sticking with booze and drug buses in some areas for a while before they have your standard saliva testers in each car, unless they conscent you to a test under probably cause and read O on an alcohol reader... they like to put things in the same place.
 
Drug testing begins for QLD drivers

Five drivers tested positive for illicit drugs in Brisbane overnight after police began their first random roadside drug testing in Queensland.

The five positive tests were recorded after police tested 63 motorists at Abbotsford Road in the inner-city suburb of Bowen Hills overnight.

The tests detect use of drugs including cannabis, ecstasy, ice and speed - substances often found in the bodies of people killed in fatal car accidents.

The operation comes after trials of drug testing among motorists in north Queensland and follows the lead of other states including Victoria.

Police Minister Judy Spence said the new tests would help to make the state's roads safer.

She said alcohol and other drugs had contributed to the deaths of 106 people - or more than 31 per cent of the road toll - on the state's roads during 2006.

"Random roadside drug testing is about saving lives and last night's operations may have done just that," Ms Spence said in a statement.

"The use of drugs while driving significantly affects motorists' skills and reaction times, hindering the functions they require to drive safely.

"We are determined to catch these people who play Russian Roulette with the lives of others on Queensland roads."

The five motorists detected in yesterday's operation returned positive results in two separate tests, including a preliminary saliva test and a mouth swab.

Their licenses were automatically suspended for 24 hours and they face the prospect of fines of up to $1,050, permanent license loss and three months' jail following an analysis of their swabs by the Queensland Health Laboratory.

Drink drivers were also targeted in yesterday's Bowen Hills operation, with 10 of the 328 motorists tested returning readings over the legal blood alcohol limit.

Random drug testing will continue over the upcoming festive season, with test sites rolled out progressively across the state.

AAP

brisbanetimes.com.au
 
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