Roadside Drug Testing (QLD)

[Splatt]

Its pretty simple. Its against the young crowd, mostly clubbers, party/ewvent/festivals etc. These random checks are bullcrap because they see who they're pulling up anyway.. They decide to let you through or to be tested based on the car, driver, how they react when closer, number of people in car etc..

 

[taita]

^Fair call... But i dont see this as the way and dont think its going to be that simple they ARE going to be doing the testing ! As things that have been in the press lately about people getting caugth, From what ive seen, they grab 5 to 10 cars depending on the police present at the testing area then let the other 5 to 10 go..Could be different for festivals and the like.

 

[Splatt]

I only see them using it for events or big days. QLD never did more than two or so random sniffer dog operations in the CBD since it was made legal for them to do so in 2005. And they targetting one event where someone died from alcohol abuse (he had a weak heart, but ofcourse the news says it was ecstasy and an easter bunny handing out deadly chocolates.. didnt stop them targetting that event a couple times though). then the erlie beach operation.... theyll do a few test runs.. target some events/special days like NYE.. then they'll stop wasting all their money as they don't get as much as the other states for their police force.

 

[time traveler]

Mmm not testing for heroin or coke.. could we see more of a trend in use with drivers using these two drugs because of this new roadside testing ?

Yep thats what i have been screaming all along. People who wrote those articles about the rise of cocaine/herion are probably right for reasons they cant see..... yet.

The good news is every test costs money. The fact they are expensive means you wont ever see them as much as your standard RBT. No doubt some patrons at upcomming festivals are going to have their lives completely fucked. So spread the word out, and hopefully save some people from alot of grief.

 

[Splatt]

Wonder if anyone has claimed they were spiked with speed in a gay club. It'd be an embarassing court case but it could work if you just act like you have no idea you're actually on speed. But have felt a bit more awake after some guy bought you a drink at [insert gay bar here]

 

[warpedmind]

i live in FNQ and the cops here are worst than anywhere else in australia, they search you or your car just cause they can. they are dogs if the roadside drug testing comes here they'll bust every second person cause everyone smokes here

 

[Splatt]

Theres currently a big investigation into that now if you live from Townsville to Cairns. If its somewhere else, then you're fucked
Police corruption in QLD is currently being looked at behind their backs. There seems to be a lot of it, and some cops it seems may have ties with tghese so called outlaw gangs.

 

[time traveler]

That's the reason the new drug tests won't be looking for heroin or cocaine. The tests for these drugs are unreliable and as such any charges would founder, says the Government.

What about cannabis ? Oh the inanity ! Oh wait.... lawyers don't smoke weed

 

[Verybuffed]

Wonder if anyone has claimed they were spiked with speed in a gay club. It'd be an embarassing court case but it could work if you just act like you have no idea you're actually on speed. But have felt a bit more awake after some guy bought you a drink at [insert gay bar here]

Wow. I hadn't even thought about that arguement. Damn you think outside the square dude

I wonder how many people are going to say that they were just in a room with people that were smokin up and not actually smoking themselves?

 

[kytnism]

They've actually been using it off the record at some drunk stops for testing. My dads friend was tested recently, however, they swabbed his steering wheel, and gear stick instead of taking saliva.. Anyone heard of this test before?

i havent. although wondered how effective it would really be to incriminate someone this way. if the vehicle isnt registered to you; and you are "borrowing" the vehicle are you still held accountable/and or does the third party also get involved by default? suppose you clean your car interior with alcoholic swabs?

im confused as to how you can get a BAC reading from a swab sample thats been contaminated (think about how many things your hands/and those of others who use your vehicle touch BEFORE your steering wheel) via a roadside testing station and not a lab?

...kytnism...

 

[Slateroz]

it is mind bending after using it a lot, you just don't realise it... then the comedowns and multiple days awake.. can be more horrifying and mind bending (in a bad way though) than LSD..

Yeah I know. I honestly think the days awake are what make me not drive on meth. You know you're not safe when you see shadows moving everywhere etc.

 

[Slateroz]

I only see them using it for events or big days. QLD never did more than two or so random sniffer dog operations in the CBD since it was made legal for them to do so in 2005. And they targetting one event where someone died from alcohol abuse (he had a weak heart, but ofcourse the news says it was ecstasy and an easter bunny handing out deadly chocolates.. didnt stop them targetting that event a couple times though). then the erlie beach operation.... theyll do a few test runs.. target some events/special days like NYE.. then they'll stop wasting all their money as they don't get as much as the other states for their police force.

Dogs were in the valley last month again.

 

[Splatt]

Really? for an event or just randomly at night?
Weird they werent at that big day dance event at brisbane a few weeks back

 

[Verybuffed]

i havent. although wondered how effective it would really be to incriminate someone this way. if the vehicle isnt registered to you; and you are "borrowing" the vehicle are you still held accountable/and or does the third party also get involved by default? suppose you clean your car interior with alcoholic swabs?

im confused as to how you can get a BAC reading from a swab sample thats been contaminated (think about how many things your hands/and those of others who use your vehicle touch BEFORE your steering wheel) via a roadside testing station and not a lab?

...kytnism...

I'd say they use that as stage one then do a further, more thorough, test inside the van then finally a blood test back at the police station when you have tested positive.

 

[Splatt]

i havent. although wondered how effective it would really be to incriminate someone this way. if the vehicle isnt registered to you; and you are "borrowing" the vehicle are you still held accountable/and or does the third party also get involved by default? suppose you clean your car interior with alcoholic swabs?

im confused as to how you can get a BAC reading from a swab sample thats been contaminated (think about how many things your hands/and those of others who use your vehicle touch BEFORE your steering wheel) via a roadside testing station and not a lab?

...kytnism...

I have a feeling these those steeringwheel/gears swabs were just being used for testing purposes as it was a non physical way to test the preciseness and train officers on spotting people pulled over that are driving weird or at random stops, that test OK for alcohol but they look like theyre on drugs. But if a driver admitted to driving under the influence or consented to a blood test they would go to court.. these arent what they are going to be using in QLD in December, they're using the swabs (im guessing you have to do it yourself supervised, they tell you to do it hard) that go each side of your mouth and on your tongue probably, because now they can legally do so to anyone they wish.

 

[Slateroz]

Really? for an event or just randomly at night?
Weird they werent at that big day dance event at brisbane a few weeks back

just walking around. I have heard they're not even sniffer dogs. Not sure though.

 

[Splatt]

Oh yeah. They often use dogs as a scare tactic. They do at Schoolies. These dogs normally bark a lot in areas with a lot of noise though, and are normally pretty big dogs. They're most likely control dogs. But if they see someone freaking out or running they'd follow you or call other police to get you for suspicion of drug possession. These dogs last longer in public and are a lot less expensive to pay the handlers.

Did you know that some QLD PaddyWagons have a built in Dog bark alarm? It sounds very real and it's 3 dogs barking, the track goes for about 30 seconds and loops until they stop. A cop showed me that one night, by accident as i think he went to set the really loud horn-alarm they use to get people off the road out of their way (which there were, drunken yobbos like wlaking out in front of them). But it nearly fucking deafened me as it comes from the back of the car. Its used to scare people (especially at event park spots), or possibly use as suspicion of a crime by your reaction.

 

[time traveler]

Splatt your knowledge of the Q.P.S. is as vast as the cosmos is wide.

I wish they took some of that money invested in making paddy wagons bark and put it in the coppers pocket so they wouldnt be so cunted all the time.

 

[Splatt]

Maybe its because I want to become a drug detective.
And focus on dangerous backyard meth production, as they're pretty much selling do your own base kits around QLD now and its flooded the market with barely active crap with dangerous impurities made by any old criminal that probably knows people will shoot it up. Let the good pure stuff pass through, have a ion scanner with me.. only bust people with adulterated pills Imagine it!

 

[time traveler]

Ha ! sounds remarkably like my ideology of becoming a bicycle cop and letting all the kiddies on bmx's roll by without helmets, while booking anyone with a european car driving and talking on a mobile phone.

What a wonderfull world it would be