Yeah I suppose there were all sorts. I remember seeing a leaflet put out by the police in Scotland which showed what was in pills they seized. The "NTZ"s I remember being notorious containing etizolam as did many because I suppose OCGs purchased the powder in bulk before the NPA/blanket ban on "research chemicals" and pressed them into pills. But those ones in particular were so strong that people thought they contained rohypnol. The flyer I mentioned showed that they had etizolam. Many of them did but some contained weird synthetic opioids too. It probably was about 10 years ago that the bizzies and drug workers and such realised that there was a "street valium" problem so Nutt's list would have to be updated now given the danger of benzos, especially street benzos. But it's more the combination that's dangerous in terms of all the ODs than benzos themselves, given that they aren't easy to OD on by themselves AFAIK. The addiction element is obviously highly dangerous and it doesn't look like Nutt took that into account.I'm pretty sure the blues I used to get 10+ years ago were phenazepam or something like that, they lasted for fucking ages
Where are you that kava kava is illegal?
I rember being at some friend's friend an they had kava, I think it was a liquid. That was in Germany, and I was very young and inexperienced, but I also remember that I felt quite content after having some.of that liquid. When I finally learned it was Kava and wanted to get some, I was told it wasn't available anymore.experiencedEurope. NL.
One stupid mf used the wholeplant. Which causes liver problems, case closed forbidden.
Yeah I liked etizolam but like all benzos (or whatever kind of semi-benzo etizolam is, I can't remember), if you take too much you can end up seriously losing yourself. As I said about those NTZs, they were fucking people up so much that it was like a zombie town even though people on the streets tend to just put the whole bag in their mouths (good ol' freshly dyed blue tongue). I got into states on them even though I never ate a whole bag at a time, I'd always try one of anything new to see how it affected me but after a while you forget how many you've taken (20 in a bag back then, usually 25 for a tenner now). Things would happen though such as being seen by people and not remembering even though I conversed with them. Also falling asleep on a bus chatting with an acquaintance, waking up the next day to find a cock and balls drawn on every page of my notebook. I admired their commitment to their project. But still I remember even taking one for the mere purpose of anxiety and feeling really loopy, stronger than any diazepam tablet I've ever had and when I learnt they contained etizolan, I wondered if they press 10mg in without realising that 1mg of etiz is equal in strength to 10mg of diazepam. Who knows. As I said people thought those pills contained rohypnol because people were in such a mess after taking them. I'd buy them again in a heart beat and just microdose them haha.Etizolam was decent tbh, I don't think the ones I had were Etiz because etiz doesn't last too long. I'd be going into school the next day fucked up and only realising when people told me days later I was in the common room failing to make a Pot Noodle
But even legit benzos basically turn people into criminals if the dose is high enough, especially if they're already that way inclined. I know guys who would take a bunch of valium then go around stealing satnavs. There's plenty of cases of burglars falling asleep in the house they're burgling, or forgetting that they're burgling a house and making themselves a sandwich from the victims fridge because they're that fucked up.
In high enough doses they can make you think that you're invincible and/or invisible, which doesn't help. Alcohol can definitely make you think that you're invincible, but not invisible from my experience.
In the US there are Kava, and Kratom bars like in Israel Khat bars. But in Europe that's wisfull thinking.Google Kava Kava and you will find places that ship to the UK. I won't link them here since it's technically illegal under the PSA (Not to possess, but it is to import)
Did they blackout while doing the stabbing?An absurd amount of murders in Scotland were committed by people under the influence of benzos + alcohol , it's not so much that people were ODing on it, they were doing this combo, then going around stabbing people
Obviously you see the impact of alcohol in hospitals / police stations more, because it's the most commonly used drug by far. Something like 50+% of the population drink at least once a week. This doesn't mean that it's more dangerous than meth.
Overall harm to others score for methamphetamine looks off to me. Is it just a UK chart?
what about riding the horse while on mdma? You ever tried that? I have. Unfortunately the horse's husband come home and caught us and kicked me in the head. I've never been the same since...
I'd guess so in a lot of casesDid they blackout while doing the stabbing?
Just wondering if there get courage and do it or simply just don't rememberI'd guess so in a lot of cases
How was it?I had a magic jizz last night.
The summary so far seems to be less than favourable reviews, but with new2drugs singlehandedely continuing to bang the drum for these products.I have to read more of this thread, but has anyone here tried these products?
What's in them?
And if you have tried it, how did you like it/how did it compare to alcohol?
I'm only banging the drum for the real one.The summary so far seems to be less than favourable reviews, but with new2drugs singlehandedely continuing to bang the drum for these products.
Shilling shysterThe summary so far seems to be less than favourable reviews, but with new2drugs singlehandedely continuing to bang the drum for these products.
Yea ..you keep believing that.Shilling shyster
What's "the real one"? Do you actually get good effects from these? Cause if others have tried them and you are the only one who likes them, then that doesn't speak that highly for them.I'm only banging the drum for the real one.
No one has tried it cause it's not out till end of the decade like you said.What's "the real one"? Do you actually get good effects from these? Cause if others have tried them and you are the only one who likes them, then that doesn't speak that highly for them.
Also, do any of these actually include David Nutt's "alcarelle"? I don't think they probably do right? I heard they are looking towards the end of the decade for it MAYBE becoming available.