Post your pic vs. Testicular atrophy!!!

You'd be hard pushed to find a steroid user that would say that its healthy to use them.

You'd take them to gain size and strength. If you want to stay healthy then you'd stay away from em.

There are ways to reduce the negative effects that they have- liver protection, etc. I'd say that an average steroid cycle would probably be as bad for you as perhaps a week of heavy drinking (say 10-15 units per night). I base that on absolutly nothing :D
 
circoguizmo said:
stay fit or lift some weights to get in shape... alright, if it makes u feel good in you body and healthy..
but takin steroids for that i don't really understand...
u keep a strict diet, u do a lot of physical exercise, go easy on booze, basically a really healthy way of life...
and then u ruin it takin steroids...

i don't understand...

So wait, how does the responsible use of steroids ruin anything?? You should watch the video I posted in the thread named "un-biased steroid documentary" That was the purpose of it, to educate you, and "El Natural" Mr. Chucky:)
 
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This is me, I've been lifting a few times a week for a few months now, and I'm ready to kick it up to the next level and start really training hard. No steroids for me, but I am looking for some good supplements to take if anyone has any suggestions.
 
liltokerboy, i reccomend a pre-workout supp such as n-o esxplode or superpump 250....i have seen the most gains on those.
 
Gotta get in on this and rep my bodybuilding board proper. They are prob about a year old, since I've lost a good amount of weight due to injury. That will be fixed in short order though, 2 more days and I go under the knife!!!!!! :D

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D-termine said:
Gotta get in on this and rep my bodybuilding board proper. They are prob about a year old, since I've lost a good amount of weight due to injury. That will be fixed in short order though, 2 more days and I go under the knife!!!!!! :D

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Awesome, your body looks a lot like mine although I think yuor arms are even bigger!!!

Is that all natural/ Have you EVER ran a cycle? What supplements have you found success with..

Good luck with the surgery, I coudn't imagine not lifting for a prolonged period of time.
 
Member#1 said:

Sorry to say, but I highly doubt that is your picture... in fact I'll stop being polite, that isn't your picture.


Trying to remember the body builders name, but that picture is taken from a set of photo's from the guys online portfolio.

Have seen that pic used many times and the guys caught out.

If admin or anyone has a problem with me saying this, please contact me.

I'm a mod on a steroid forum and can prove this if need be.

LMAO if you are a mod of a forum..then you would read my post no-where does it say it is me, it is not me, nd not call out like that. you wold say i know who that is its. . .

what forum is it you speak of? and please dont say AR or w/e its called now becaue you will hae no credibility besides a very select few from there who are cool.

no need to prove it not me guys..busted lol it was a joke and i forgot to come back and be like.."I WISH"

carry on
 
D-termine said:
Gotta get in on this and rep my bodybuilding board proper. They are prob about a year old, since I've lost a good amount of weight due to injury. That will be fixed in short order though, 2 more days and I go under the knife!!!!!! :D

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nice arms man they develope nicley keep it up
 
PARooolller said:
Awesome, your body looks a lot like mine although I think yuor arms are even bigger!!!

Is that all natural/ Have you EVER ran a cycle? What supplements have you found success with..

Good luck with the surgery, I coudn't imagine not lifting for a prolonged period of time.


Arms were going so well, I got into coast mode and didn't even really hit them all that hard with any direct work. I focus on static and slow strength moves. I'm talking inverted dips, weird horizontal pull ups, one leg squats and deadlifts, and shit tons of core work. I never get all that shredded, but my core could take an axe blow. I love to have retard strength and I found my body responded nicely.

As far as cycles, I have ben on and off since 19, I'm now 23. I'm about to run a Test Base, Boldenone Base Transdermal cycle coming up. I loved my trans Test so much I decided to make a bid with some bold. Perhaps I'll throw a write up/log in the anabolics section here when I get on that.

As far as not being able to lift, its death. I believe very much so that it has saved my lif numerous times. The strength and drive I learned from lifting has gotten me through long county jail bids and a milion other horrible things in life. When you lose the ability to lift, to look how you want, and effectively DO what you want it can break you. For me my spirit is broken. This injury came on the wings of a bad break in life, and trying to clear it up without that internal strength is a bitch.

Live and learn right? Squat til you drop
 
D-termine said:
Arms were going so well, I got into coast mode and didn't even really hit them all that hard with any direct work. I focus on static and slow strength moves. I'm talking inverted dips, weird horizontal pull ups, one leg squats and deadlifts, and shit tons of core work. I never get all that shredded, but my core could take an axe blow. I love to have retard strength and I found my body responded nicely.

As far as cycles, I have ben on and off since 19, I'm now 23. I'm about to run a Test Base, Boldenone Base Transdermal cycle coming up. I loved my trans Test so much I decided to make a bid with some bold. Perhaps I'll throw a write up/log in the anabolics section here when I get on that.

As far as not being able to lift, its death. I believe very much so that it has saved my lif numerous times. The strength and drive I learned from lifting has gotten me through long county jail bids and a milion other horrible things in life. When you lose the ability to lift, to look how you want, and effectively DO what you want it can break you. For me my spirit is broken. This injury came on the wings of a bad break in life, and trying to clear it up without that internal strength is a bitch.

Live and learn right? Squat til you drop

bld base is by far THE SINGLE MOST PAINFUL injection out there lol, but your doing transdermal...can i ask why? needles scare you? <---not making fun of you this is a legitamate question
 
aanallein said:
4 yrs of roids to get that physique? roflmao.


I admire his physique in that picture but it all comes down to genetics....We all can't be natural superhumans like you Analien ;) ...I don't see how you DL that much and manage to eat all of those calories...May I ask what you do for a job/career?

In his case, he started way too young but maybe he was responsible with his use and knowledgable enough about what he was/is putting into his body....

Either way, you're right.....He could have achieved that physique naturally but I'm sure steroids gave him the extra edge he needed.....


D-termine----Could you layout and post some samples of cycles that you've run in the past? I don't hear much about transdermals.
 
I'm a highschool teacher. I also go to nightschool to work on my graduate degree and have a girlfriend and other responsibilities.

It is hard, even for me, to do what I need to do but there's no room for excuses. I'm down to about 255 lbs right now (from 268 or so at my peak about 5 months ago) and my deadlift has decreased a small amount (I can comfortably pull 600 but anything over that I won't attempt at the moment). Thankfully, even though I've lost some strength, I haven't lost much (if any) muscle - just fat.

Eating is the hardest part about this. Drinking enough water is also hard. If I don't eat over 4k cals a day I lose weight. To maintain I need to be hitting 4.5k+ a day and that gets tedious, expensive, and exhausting.

But its not just genetics. I don't know how many people I see in the gym regularly who don't put their heart into it. I go in there, put my iPod on and disappear. I am not satisfied unless I have the best pump I can get and the muscles I'm working are begging for mercy. I see a handful of guys in there who lift like I do. The other 95% do not. And that is why I get results like I do. Not because of genetics.


Oh and most everybody in my gym ASSUMES I'm on steroids. They don't even ask me if I am - they ask which I'm on. I tell them all the same thing - I have never used AAS or prohormones in my life. I've seen winny (the other day somebody showed me his bottle of them) but that is the extent of my experience with anabolics. Nobody believes me. They just shake their head, look at me, laugh, and go "ok dude if you say so." In some ways it makes me feel good but in other ways its depressing to think that everybody thinks I'm cheating to get where I am. Even my friends and coworkers don't believe me. Oh well though.
 
aanallein said:
4 yrs of roids to get that physique? roflmao.

Post some better pics and we can talk, I'm not impressed. What are your stats?

I've been dealing with radial tunnel syndrome for years, it usually eats up 3-4 months a year of training. Add to that 6 months locked up a couple years ago. I walk around 185-190 @ 10%, 6'1". Deadlift is at 400 clean, Pull from the Pins 500X8 a PR I'm rather fond of, Pull ups 8X100, and a PR for Dips of 2X135.

So yeah, not everyone wants to be enormous. I'm among the strongest guys I know, best looking, and know more about juice, supps and training than anyone I know. Tooting my own horn, yes. Wasting my breath, probably

musclemilk said:
bld base is by far THE SINGLE MOST PAINFUL injection out there lol, but your doing transdermal...can i ask why? needles scare you? <---not making fun of you this is a legitamate question


Needle scares me, TD's are WAY cheaper, and the absorption rate is far more stable than that of weekly injections. More stable plasma levels and you get less sides that come from the peak/trough cycle of an Undeclynate or Enanthate cycle.
 
aanallein said:
But its not just genetics. I don't know how many people I see in the gym regularly who don't put their heart into it. I go in there, put my iPod on and disappear. I am not satisfied unless I have the best pump I can get and the muscles I'm working are begging for mercy. I see a handful of guys in there who lift like I do. The other 95% do not. And that is why I get results like I do. Not because of genetics.


Oh and most everybody in my gym ASSUMES I'm on steroids. They don't even ask me if I am - they ask which I'm on. I tell them all the same thing - I have never used AAS or prohormones in my life. I've seen winny (the other day somebody showed me his bottle of them) but that is the extent of my experience with anabolics. Nobody believes me. They just shake their head, look at me, laugh, and go "ok dude if you say so." In some ways it makes me feel good but in other ways its depressing to think that everybody thinks I'm cheating to get where I am. Even my friends and coworkers don't believe me. Oh well though.

You and I train the same then, if I'm not killing my girl fiend training her, I'm destroying myself. Ipod on, everything else off.

Cheating, HA? WTF is cheating about maximizing your gains with gear? I know what I'm doing, I always have. I get labs done pre and post, I use time off effectively and have solid PCT regimes. Do you do drugs? Probably, this is a drug forum. Does that make you a cheater at enjoying life? Your gains mean no less than mine, but if you need to differentiate your self and get that little extra boost in confidence be my guest. Enjoy WOW
 
PARooolller said:
D-termine----Could you layout and post some samples of cycles that you've run in the past? I don't hear much about transdermals.

Here is a log I threw up on Mind and Muscle. I'm not sure if I can link to other forums, so apologies in advance if thats the case
 
I'm among the strongest guys I know

I'm going to limit the shit talking with this statement -

If you are among the strongest guys you know and you're pulling 400, you need to move to a new gym environment.

I've never juiced and I can pull 400 for like 15 or 20 reps and I'm unsatisfied with that. The first time I ever deadlifted in my entire life I pulled like 370 (less than 2 years ago btw). I've pulled 585 for 3 and 500 for 9. I'm unsatisfied with that. I won't be satisfied til I break 700 and even then I think I can pull higher.

I didn't mean to be completely rude but your physique has only 1 good aspect and that is your bicep peak (which has good shape). And you may want to get that gyno looked at or go on some anti e's or something.

I haven't taken a pic in about 8 months but maybe I will at some point. You say you're unimpressed by the 1 pic I have up that's a side bicep shot? You should be. Bicep shots don't show anything. Maybe I'll throw a pic up of me deadlifting 600. Going to the gym to do that now.

Do you do drugs? Probably, this is a drug forum

no I don't. I don't find it ethically or morally responsible given my profession.

Your gains mean no less than mine

The reality is that juicing is cheating. I didn't use anabolic to get here and you did. Yes, it makes me feel good to know I haven't dicked with my endocrine system to get my gains.
 
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