Opioids Poppy Pod Tea Stovetop Espresso Maker Experiment

[Sk1500]

32 active alkaloids last I heard, every one of those could have it's own wd symptoms. Great stuff though, I'm missing it, but determined to keep off it until about four weeks from now. Then everything will be done and I can relax with

I get the same effects.. I find that if I smoke the same weed for a day or two I'm okay.. But to be honest I have stayed away from it due to anxiety..
I have been to the weed Dr here as the government / Doctors are trying to stop the benzo usage. And the weed Doctor reckoned that they take curtain chemicals out of the plant to help with Anxiety, memory cancer and pain. Tbh I a bit sceptical and prefer benzos over and ssri, or all these anti depression tablet's as I find they don't seem to effect me apart from weight gain. I might try the CBD as it's not got the high to it. But my pharmacist showed me the type of weed in stock and the THC level is crazy @34%. And you could smell it f through the think plastic sealed tub. 12 grams is $185 or they have the usual 24% for $125 for 12 grams.
The Doctor costs $185 first and second time and then the government covers the fee.
But I think I stick with the valiuym and lorazepam until it gets taken away like Xanax if I can.
I know this is the wrong thread for weed but has anyone had experience with CDB or the proper medical weed? Anxiety wise and to help with sleeping, back pain etc?

Yup all anti depressants do for me or (in the UK) Anti Psychotic which are given for Insomnia if you are a 'trouble case' for them do to me is put on enormous amounts of weight.

I am on Diazepam but I'm expected to take Venlafaxine as well, put on massive amounts of weight. I actually dropped from September 2020 until May 2021
from about 210lb (15 stone) down to 145lb (10½ stone ish), I was under huge stress then relationship break up and other things, I was still smoking green then but bizarrely I was on Quetiapine!!!!... After my best friend killed himself in June, I stopped smoking green, stopped eating. My weight increased dramatically and fast, I stopped Quetiapine and was put on Mirtazapine. My weight began increasing rapidly, he put me on Venlafaxine, as well as morphine sulfate. I'm still not eating but my weight kept going up, probably at about 14 stone now (roughly 200lb).

It's obviously really hard to pin point what caused the weight loss and weight gain. I went from 1 med which is known to cause weight gain Quetiapine to another Mirtazapine. My stress and depression levels increased drastically after my best friends suicide. I haven't eaten properly though for ages. I have recently stopped Venlafaxine, I looked it up and was one of the worst ones for suicide (thanks doc!!!).

So could potentially be either stopping the green, starting the morphine or added even more stress

 

[yubacity]

Thanks for your reply...next time dont do it for a while - so you think maybe tolerance could be a thing? In any case, my intestines really didn't like the crap not moving along lol

I dont think it was tolerance i remember when i started using pods my tolerance was the same for a week atleast but i was also smoking heroin . I think you was not using enough do it in stages drink some wait 40 mins if not much drink some more until it works . But this the truth i think you should not do any because a addiction to any opiate is hell we talk good about it because we in it but foir a opium virgin stay away. Imagine waking up feeling shit got a little sweat going anxiety kicking in so you press youe heels into the matress first thing you do is smoke heroin or take pods then sit back until that kicks in before you get ready to start your day then for the rest of the day you run on a heroin clock when it says you need it you have to your a slave to this fucking plant . You hate constipation imagine going over a week with hardly any movement and wanting to scream out loud only to pass a peeble sized thing . If i can go back in time to that coke session i had 15 years ago i would smash my mate who said shall we have a boot that will chill us out

 

[papercuts]

What kind of coffee maker is this? I was reading in some science journal - testing pod potency or some such thing. They used an "ultrasonic bath" to extract the alkaloids. That's a new one - Had to look it up...very common devices, inexpensive and maybe worth exploring for large-scale.

It goes very fast from "I just want to try it one time and not get involved" to needing it the moment you wake up, so I'd echo what yubacity says. It's good advice even though we all ignored it ourselves.
I kept to a strict schedule for a long time, waiting 4-5 days between using, didn't get hooked, then the dr offered me buprenorphine and I thought that would make things easier, but adding more opiates only makes life more complicated. Now I'm hooked and trying to do without is hell on earth. But I did recently turn down the pharmacist's offer of fentanyl in a patch, that's just going deeper, dr doesn't know of my demons. Besides, believe it or not, drinking pod tea makes my stomach hurt, I got some now, my mind is singing merrily as a songbird but my tummy is hurting. I might try plugging it again, but that means less water.
The only way to move your bowels is to stop taking it or wait a long long time for laxatives to work.
I honestly can't cope without the stuff and that alone is causing me problems. Social events, I absolutely need it. So I need it this time of year but I'm also trying to give it up because I gotta travel in two weeks and I'm not bringing it with me.
Now the pain is gone. I'll worry later.

 

[Sk1500]

I dont think it was tolerance i remember when i started using pods my tolerance was the same for a week atleast but i was also smoking heroin . I think you was not using enough do it in stages drink some wait 40 mins if not much drink some more until it works . But this the truth i think you should not do any because a addiction to any opiate is hell we talk good about it because we in it but foir a opium virgin stay away. Imagine waking up feeling shit got a little sweat going anxiety kicking in so you press youe heels into the matress first thing you do is smoke heroin or take pods then sit back until that kicks in before you get ready to start your day then for the rest of the day you run on a heroin clock when it says you need it you have to your a slave to this fucking plant . You hate constipation imagine going over a week with hardly any movement and wanting to scream out loud only to pass a peeble sized thing . If i can go back in time to that coke session i had 15 years ago i would smash my mate who said shall we have a boot that will chill us out

I only did gear few times (30-50) when I was banged up 15+ years ago, I got a proper addictive personality so I'm shocked that I managed to stop pretty easily, literally 90% of ppl in where on either crack or gear, most on both. Wasn't that easy to get hold off unless your cell mate was the biggest seller on the wing and I was getting it usually free. When he got moved off wing, I was still able to get pretty easily. My next cell mate was youngster who was in for non drug related violent but only doing green, coke, pills etc on the outside. I ended up getting him on the gear and feel guilty about that. Think we had 3 or 4 times before he stabbed someone and ended up down the block. I know he was hooked straight away though and I do think what extra damage I ended up doing to him.

I think with me I was too paro about having a MDT and that would've meant I ended up doing extra 10 months inside. So if your not already on the slippery opiate life it's not worth experimenting, not like pills where you can usually take or leave.

What you said about your mate giving to calm down from coke binge, that's why something like 70-80% are addicted to both, either as a way too come down so could feel the crack or the opposite way round.

 

[Sk1500]

This thread has jumped all over the place

 

[Derschieber]

I dont think it was tolerance i remember when i started using pods my tolerance was the same for a week atleast but i was also smoking heroin . I think you was not using enough do it in stages drink some wait 40 mins if not much drink some more until it works . But this the truth i think you should not do any because a addiction to any opiate is hell we talk good about it because we in it but foir a opium virgin stay away. Imagine waking up feeling shit got a little sweat going anxiety kicking in so you press youe heels into the matress first thing you do is smoke heroin or take pods then sit back until that kicks in before you get ready to start your day then for the rest of the day you run on a heroin clock when it says you need it you have to your a slave to this fucking plant . You hate constipation imagine going over a week with hardly any movement and wanting to scream out loud only to pass a peeble sized thing . If i can go back in time to that coke session i had 15 years ago i would smash my mate who said shall we have a boot that will chill us out

@papercuts , @yubacity & @Sk1500 Thank you very much. I will heed your advice.

 

[Sk1500]

What kind of coffee maker is this? I was reading in some science journal - testing pod potency or some such thing. They used an "ultrasonic bath" to extract the alkaloids. That's a new one - Had to look it up...very common devices, inexpensive and maybe worth exploring for large-scale.

When you say, "what kind of coffee maker is this?"... do you mean that my original thread is talking about? If yes, there called stovetop espresso maker and the middle section (it unscrews) where you put coffee in you can use with poppy pods, pods only not seeds

 

[yubacity]

It goes very fast from "I just want to try it one time and not get involved" to needing it the moment you wake up, so I'd echo what yubacity says. It's good advice even though we all ignored it ourselves.
I kept to a strict schedule for a long time, waiting 4-5 days between using, didn't get hooked, then the dr offered me buprenorphine and I thought that would make things easier, but adding more opiates only makes life more complicated. Now I'm hooked and trying to do without is hell on earth. But I did recently turn down the pharmacist's offer of fentanyl in a patch, that's just going deeper, dr doesn't know of my demons. Besides, believe it or not, drinking pod tea makes my stomach hurt, I got some now, my mind is singing merrily as a songbird but my tummy is hurting. I might try plugging it again, but that means less water.
The only way to move your bowels is to stop taking it or wait a long long time for laxatives to work.
I honestly can't cope without the stuff and that alone is causing me problems. Social events, I absolutely need it. So I need it this time of year but I'm also trying to give it up because I gotta travel in two weeks and I'm not bringing it with me.
Now the pain is gone. I'll worry later.

That waiting 4 to 5 days statement hits home . Every time i go through the pain of wd the absolute agony of it because the one drug that helped pregabalin sail through wds i have ended up having an addiction to so even 60 300 mg capsules don't do much. Every time I relapse i think ill do it once then that changes to leaving 4 to 5 days between using that works once or twice but i end up counting days between thinking 60 hours till i can use 40 hours then i start going to 3 days then 2 then you know what happens next. Now im. at a point that without opium I'm, not a father a husband or son I'm always miserable when clean 30 out of my 45 years i've been addicted to one drug or another always some drug in the background easing life making me this funny laid back very loyal to friends and family person. When im not on drugs the sadness comes back i function very well but off it not so well so now i have decided this my medicine

 

[Senseimilla]

Baclofen absolutely knocks me out.. great drug tbh. I did find that sometimes it knocked me out so much that I didn't move my body enough and woke with extremely painful back and legs .. but that went away after I got my blood flow moving again..
Also I did use to take more than the stated dose at times..
..But excellent muscle relaxant.

Yup all anti depressants do for me or (in the UK) Anti Psychotic which are given for Insomnia if you are a 'trouble case' for them do to me is put on enormous amounts of weight.

I am on Diazepam but I'm expected to take Venlafaxine as well, put on massive amounts of weight. I actually dropped from September 2020 until May 2021
from about 210lb (15 stone) down to 145lb (10½ stone ish), I was under huge stress then relationship break up and other things, I was still smoking green then but bizarrely I was on Quetiapine!!!!... After my best friend killed himself in June, I stopped smoking green, stopped eating. My weight increased dramatically and fast, I stopped Quetiapine and was put on Mirtazapine. My weight began increasing rapidly, he put me on Venlafaxine, as well as morphine sulfate. I'm still not eating but my weight kept going up, probably at about 14 stone now (roughly 200lb).

It's obviously really hard to pin point what caused the weight loss and weight gain. I went from 1 med which is known to cause weight gain Quetiapine to another Mirtazapine. My stress and depression levels increased drastically after my best friends suicide. I haven't eaten properly though for ages. I have recently stopped Venlafaxine, I looked it up and was one of the worst ones for suicide (thanks doc!!!).

So could potentially be either stopping the green, starting the morphine or added even more

I hear ya, munchies @2 am ..also waking up with a food half eaten still on the bed etc etc etc...

The weight gain is crazy ASF.
Psyllium husk work well natural fibre that clears you out. And cheap compared to Metamucil.

 

[yubacity]

I only did gear few times (30-50) when I was banged up 15+ years ago, I got a proper addictive personality so I'm shocked that I managed to stop pretty easily, literally 90% of ppl in where on either crack or gear, most on both. Wasn't that easy to get hold off unless your cell mate was the biggest seller on the wing and I was getting it usually free. When he got moved off wing, I was still able to get pretty easily. My next cell mate was youngster who was in for non drug related violent but only doing green, coke, pills etc on the outside. I ended up getting him on the gear and feel guilty about that. Think we had 3 or 4 times before he stabbed someone and ended up down the block. I know he was hooked straight away though and I do think what extra damage I ended up doing to him.

I think with me I was too paro about having a MDT and that would've meant I ended up doing extra 10 months inside. So if your not already on the slippery opiate life it's not worth experimenting, not like pills where you can usually take or leave.

What you said about your mate giving to calm down from coke binge, that's why something like 70-80% are addicted to both, either as a way too come down so could feel the crack or the opposite way round.

First thing bruv don't feel bad someone got addicted we all know the dangers we choose to . I remember when I first started smoking heroin i thought i had the golden ticket the Punjabis think nothing bad if you do pods it part of the history but heroin no fucking way you a junkie so I kept my punjabi friends not knowing i did heroin. I would feel so good when i was on a coke or crack session with them at the end of the night or morning when party over the drugs have finished your dealer's phone is of and the depression kicks in i would chuckle to myself thinking im going home smoking heroin having a munch and while you boys are watching porn trying to knock one out im going to be fast asleep .
Heroin saved my marriage before heroin i was out all night coked up cheating on my wife with drug fueled romps with women i picked up or if that failed a escort .

After heroin i would stay home that mental headspin a cocaine addiction was selling to use working to pay bill and fund a coke habit i was a taxi driver then before i got back on the lorries i had to pass my HGV in britan i had american lorry license but not british one and i had not had the coke descussion with my cousin to start our buisness yet. Heroin made me mellow great husband took childhood pain to be manageable changed me. But i also remember my first rattle about 2 months in that night i could not settle something l;ike being tickled from the inside i would sit up and tell my wife she would try rubbing my back in the morning now im in full wds and i only lastred a few hours more smoke some brown and i was good it was like the ground had opened up under my feet i knew this was not like a crank or coke addiction i was scared

 

[yubacity]

@yubacity & @Sk1500 Thank you very much. I will heed your advice.

I really wish you would none of us thought we be like this but once you start using you know you can get addicted but you put it of one more day then i stop then you to far in and you in it. I tell you something i never told anyone i feel like a cunt just knowing this . My cousin who was my like my brother my best frriend taught me to swim jump bikes everything committed suicide I helped cut him down with his brother we were waiting for the person that comes and gets him to do post mortem and he was taking hours i started withdrawing and this prick took six hours so i had been long time since i smoked while my cousin was lying there dead i was thinking of an excuse to go home smoke gear then come back this is an addiction to opium please my brother remember this don't do it

 

[yubacity]

This thread has jumped all over the place

You right brother but i would not wish this pain on anyone he an opium virgin if this puts him off it i be happy

 

[papercuts]

First thing bruv don't feel bad someone got addicted we all know the dangers we choose to . I remember when I first started smoking heroin i thought i had the golden ticket the Punjabis think nothing bad if you do pods it part of the history but heroin no fucking way you a junkie so I kept my punjabi friends not knowing i did heroin. I would feel so good when i was on a coke or crack session with them at the end of the night or morning when party over the drugs have finished your dealer's phone is of and the depression kicks in i would chuckle to myself thinking im going home smoking heroin having a munch and while you boys are watching porn trying to knock one out im going to be fast asleep .
Heroin saved my marriage before heroin i was out all night coked up cheating on my wife with drug fueled romps with women i picked up or if that failed a escort .

After heroin i would stay home that mental headspin a cocaine addiction was selling to use working to pay bill and fund a coke habit i was a taxi driver then before i got back on the lorries i had to pass my HGV in britan i had american lorry license but not british one and i had not had the coke descussion with my cousin to start our buisness yet. Heroin made me mellow great husband took childhood pain to be manageable changed me. But i also remember my first rattle about 2 months in that night i could not settle something l;ike being tickled from the inside i would sit up and tell my wife she would try rubbing my back in the morning now im in full wds and i only lastred a few hours more smoke some brown and i was good it was like the ground had opened up under my feet i knew this was not like a crank or coke addiction i was scared

Yes, when I realised how addicted I am it scared me too. I've spent the last four weeks trying to cut out this or that and it only kept getting worse until I gave in. Like I always have before. Now I'm fine, I can handle anything the world throws at me, only with an opiate in me, otherwise I'm depressed and can't think anything will go right so I can't even try. I failed to quit when I tried, I really put in so much effort then failed so I feel it wasn't worth trying, I wasted four weeks feeling depressed and craving green 24/7 to replace the pods, then I can't work because I need to concentrate.
Gotta work now. It's part time, but I still can't fit it in around my need to get off the planet, that is a problem.
At least my husband doesn't mind, that's hugely helpful. I wasn't running off with other men, but he prefers me in the house, lol, he gets whatever he wants when I'm happy.

 

[yubacity]

Yes, when I realised how addicted I am it scared me too. I've spent the last four weeks trying to cut out this or that and it only kept getting worse until I gave in. Like I always have before. Now I'm fine, I can handle anything the world throws at me, only with an opiate in me, otherwise I'm depressed and can't think anything will go right so I can't even try. I failed to quit when I tried, I really put in so much effort then failed so I feel it wasn't worth trying, I wasted four weeks feeling depressed and craving green 24/7 to replace the pods, then I can't work because I need to concentrate.
Gotta work now. It's part time, but I still can't fit it in around my need to get off the planet, that is a problem.
At least my husband doesn't mind, that's hugely helpful. I wasn't running off with other men, but he prefers me in the house, lol, he gets whatever he wants when I'm happy.

We are so lucky we got great partners, my wife, the same she has been in this with me 30 years and i love putting my head down at night straight away her arm goes around me and i feel secure. For most people that would be enough but like you i cant feel like i fit in this world my dad fucked my head up and i live with that but it made me a great dad everything I wanted from my dad the love no beatings no favoring my sister over us brothers i give to my kids so much so when one of my 4 kids have a birthday i get the other 3 a present. I cheated on my wife so many times i cant count but i know this is not an excuse I have sex with the other woman but i love my wife . She never been with another man we childhood sweethearts I was her first boyfriend. That along with me having good business great kids should be enough but i can't do life clean . Today i woke up smoked some heroin did some pods went to gym with wife had workout came home cooked some lunch for us and had a good time . Now if i was not on anything i would be miserable never go to gym and that is not how this beautiful kind women should be treated

 

[negrogesic]

Using same amount I got up to, havibgvfchuû which think is 140g but new née makes miles better, so hard to type spnkpn

Thoml possibly last weekþ

take, ķ

By the looks of it that was a good brew of podspresso. I wonder how much morphine is in a 140g brew of podspresso . My guess is that a double pass of 140g of pod grounds in a well-controlled espresso maker extract could result in a brew containing around 250-500mg depending on the pods.

Anyone use electronic espresso makers? Someone reported good results.

They also make an electronic version of the stovetop espresso maker which might be even better than putting it on the stove. I actually have one of these but never used it for podspresso because it wasn't large enough to fit the amount of grounds i needed for my tolerance.

 

[yubacity]

By the looks of it that was a good brew of podspresso. I wonder how much morphine is in a 140g brew of podspresso . My guess is that a double pass of 140g of pod grounds in a well-controlled espresso maker extract could result in a brew containing around 250-500mg depending on the pods.

Anyone use electronic espresso makers? Someone reported good results.

They also make an electronic version of the stovetop espresso maker which might be even better than putting it on the stove. I actually have one of these but never used it for podspresso because it wasn't large enough to fit the amount of grounds i needed for my tolerance.

That is a lot of morphine i did not think it would be that much . Do you know why the nod from pods is so differant from heroin i know heroin diamorphine and this morphine but pods dont really have the euphoria nod you feel good but not like heroin

 

[papercuts]

We are so lucky we got great partners, my wife, the same she has been in this with me 30 years and i love putting my head down at night straight away her arm goes around me and i feel secure. For most people that would be enough but like you i cant feel like i fit in this world my dad fucked my head up and i live with that but it made me a great dad everything I wanted from my dad the love no beatings no favoring my sister over us brothers i give to my kids so much so when one of my 4 kids have a birthday i get the other 3 a present. I cheated on my wife so many times i cant count but i know this is not an excuse I have sex with the other woman but i love my wife . She never been with another man we childhood sweethearts I was her first boyfriend. That along with me having good business great kids should be enough but i can't do life clean . Today i woke up smoked some heroin did some pods went to gym with wife had workout came home cooked some lunch for us and had a good time . Now if i was not on anything i would be miserable never go to gym and that is not how this beautiful kind women should be treated

I've been with my husband nearly as long, 28 years, we have great kids in their twenties now, life is good, we enjoy each others company, but I just can't do it clean either. I use as little as I can, that will have to do.
I'd love one of those old style coffee percolators, the type that got banned I think because they exploded from the pressure occasionally. My grandparents had one. I bet that would extract everything.

 

[yubacity]

I've been with my husband nearly as long, 28 years, we have great kids in their twenties now, life is good, we enjoy each others company, but I just can't do it clean either. I use as little as I can, that will have to do.

I'd love one of those old style coffee percolators, the type that got banned I think because they exploded from the pressure occasionally. My grandparents had one. I bet that would extract everything.

That probably would today i just been washing pods straight in mouth washed down with water quicker but not as good as tea my wife out tomorrow with her friends for lunch and shopping i will try the espresso maker

 

[negrogesic]

That is a lot of morphine i did not think it would be that much . Do you know why the nod from pods is so differant from heroin i know heroin diamorphine and this morphine but pods dont really have the euphoria nod you feel good but not like heroin

Alot of it has to do with pharmacokinetics (essentially the timing at which a drug rises and falls in the blood stream).



As depicted above peak mood enhancement occurs faster and peaks for longer than morphine. This is why it feels more euphoric. The high lipophilicity of heroin relative to morphine is what is behind this effect.


Also, heroin is a much cleaner opioid than raw opium, which contains many different alkaloids, some of which aren't particularly pleasant.

 

[Sk1500]

By the looks of it that was a good brew of podspresso. I wonder how much morphine is in a 140g brew of podspresso . My guess is that a double pass of 140g of pod grounds in a well-controlled espresso maker extract could result in a brew containing around 250-500mg depending on the pods.

Anyone use electronic espresso makers? Someone reported good results.

They also make an electronic version of the stovetop espresso maker which might be even better than putting it on the stove. I actually have one of these but never used it for podspresso because it wasn't large enough to fit the amount of grounds i needed for my tolerance.

ended up doing think 200g, double passes, through 2 makers. Reusing the same water really made it powerful, was still nodding the day after as well!!!

That looks interesting I'll look up. Cheers my friend