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Politics in 2004

who are you voting for?

  • liberal/the nationals

    Votes: 18 20.0%
  • labor

    Votes: 20 22.2%
  • the greens

    Votes: 49 54.4%
  • the democrats

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • another minor party

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • i don't know

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • i don't care

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • i don't vote (non-australian citizen)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    90
Australian's and their economy.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/13/1097607297065.html

A global survey of 8700 firms by the influential World Economic Forum concluded that, out of 104 countries, Australia was the 14th most competitive nation in 2004. A year earlier Australia was ranked 10th. .... Australia fared particularly badly in terms of economic stability, achieving a ranking of 33rd.


http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/11/1097406497701.html

One reason Labor won the 1990 federal election was that voters saw it as the better economic manager. An AgePoll found 47 per cent of voters preferred Labor to run the economy; just 32 per cent wanted the Coalition.

At the time mortgage rates were 17 per cent. Businesses were paying more than 20 per cent. Investment was in free-fall. Asset prices were falling. The seeds of the recession had been sown months earlier, and it was already sprouting. Yet the public trusted Labor to be their economic managers. ... It is normal for the government of the day to be seen as the better economic manager. It is always a known quantity; the opposition can only be an unknown quantity. Voters usually prefer to trust the devil they know, even if interest rates are 17 per cent.


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LeaderOfThePack said:
Congratulations Australia for I will be making it clear for the next three years that I can't be blamed for the Right Wing fucks that now control our Parliament...





I will be doing the same.

Already,I've heard Peter Costello say "We won't be able to keep all the promises we made before the election".

I wonder how many were non-core promises ;).


After this election result,no Liberal voter(At this last election.), has any right to complain about anything John Howard and co. do :p
They will only have themselves to blame :lol
 
i have nothing to add, though it is probably worth mentioning that i have herpes, so if you ever meet me, be sure to stay away.
 
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Pleonastic, i can't help myself

Fucks sake pilltastic, no need to be so smug about the whole thing, acting like a money whore. You've just proven how shallow you really are.
 
He's not shallow, he's a troll. He's sitting there lauging at everyone that replies. For all we know he doesn't even believe what he says. He's just pressing people's buttons. That's why there's no need to reply - because there's no argument to respond to. Whatever you say, he says oposite, and uses plenty of agressive and provocative means of saying it. It fires people up, which is just what he's after.

Trolls need food. Don't feed them. :)
 
^^rofl

sigh
that will make a big difference to him in the end, won't it?
he trolls and you bite =\

edit: to Riot Grrrl
 
MoeBro said:
^^rofl

sigh
that will make a big difference to him in the end, won't it?
he trolls and you bite =\

edit: to Riot Grrrl

I know (s)he's trolling but how funny is it that they have such immense issues and how empty their lives must be if they can only feel worthwhile by doing stuff like this! Big ups to them!

It's knowing that that gives me the warm fuzzies.. :)
 
he he he your so right im laghin my ass off. I do believe it to some extent I jst think you guys need some opposition once in a while. You jst sit there agreein with each other bein so politicaly correct. Its gotta get a bit boring im jst tryin to strike up some debate.
 
Ahh now comes the justification of your actions.. it's ok i'm not that stupid..

What you did was ever so clever at striking up debate. I'm sure that if i went to school and yelled *My Mumsy and Daddy just bought me a porsche* it would have struck up a debate about the pros and cons of lenins economic theory just as cleverly as your posting did.

Your issues are still there.. no need to go hiding from them - why not embrace them? Lying about your motivations only makes it more blatant.

Peace and love :)
 
haha, i can just see pilltastic entering every thread that people generaly agree on and causing a stir. If bluelight threads are so boring, then leave. I'm sure this thread has had much debate and heated discussion, ain't my reputation going down.

End of discussion.
 
In between shit stirring pilltastic perhaps you can brush up on your english and grammar?
My head hurts after reading your posts LOL
 
wow I guess you just had to show us your that smart by mentioning Lenins economic theory, shit man your the one with the issues. I jst recognise that theres a fine line between being shalow and living in a fantasy world. I recognise the need for a social consience just as much as the need for economic growth. Some would even say that the ability to hold two conflicting ideas in ones head and contenplate them in an objective manner is a sighn of brilience. Im jst exorcising my democratic right to choose the party which i feel offers the right balance on conflicting ideas. Not just voting for whoever offers me the most which I think is dissgraseful. In the words of a great man ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
 
wow I guess you just had to show us your that smart by mentioning Lenins economic theory, shit man your the one with the issues.

Err no - if you read my post properly you'll notice that I was using some SATIRE to show how pitiful your 'Stirring up of debate' was.

My point being that you'll notice that no one has *actually* discussed the self smug issue that you raised and instead the remaining posts have been discussing your trolling. This piss-poor attempt by yourself to justify your actions has not cut the mustard - Hence why I likened the *Mumsy and daddy bought me a Porsche* comment with the 'lenins economic theories' (which frankly I know feck all about) to draw a analogy of what you attempted. As you can see the outcome of your alleged 'stirring up of debate' had the same result as would the 'Mummy and daddy Porsche' comment to stir up debate on 'lenins theory'. The way you posted was a TROLL and it was not to promote the so called 'debate' concept that you've brought up as an attempt to save your credibility so back into your box there sonny.

Oh I have issues. You might have noticed that every single person in the world has issues it's called being human. All I’m doing is asking you to embrace yours.

I jst recognise that theres a fine line between being shalow and living in a fantasy world. I recognise the need for a social consience just as much as the need for economic growth.

Umm ok see what you're doing there? see it look at it again - now *THAT* is stirring up debate - check it out - you've actually argued some points - and you haven't even abused or done the whole self-satisfied smug routine that endeared you to all of us!! Nice one - this is what maybe you should aim for in the future. Unfortunately for you i actually wholeheartedly agree with these two statements so it's not like it's earth shattering and omg I think you'll struggle to find people to fight you on these two.

Some would even say that the ability to hold two conflicting ideas in ones head and contenplate them in an objective manner is a sighn of brilience. Im jst exorcising my democratic right to choose the party which i feel offers the right balance on conflicting ideas

Umm no that's just called rational and logical thought. I think you're being a bit too excited at your so-called 'sighn of brilience'. I personally think a sign of brilliance involves putting forth an argument and point of view that does not contradict itself and is CONSISTANT. What you described there is not a way of thinking that is unique to yourself you know - it's called ~ wait for it ~Analysis~ 8o and phenomenally most people I know that haven't been lobotomised, do it on a daily basis on a conscious and sub-conscious level. Some (like myself) even get paid to do it. Amazing innit. Even Brilient! :) You have every right to vote who you want for. But this is not the issue we are arguing. Your trolling was the issue, and now your attempted 'justification' is what I’m ripping into. Did I at any point actually bag you for your right wing posturing? It was your style I had a go at..

Not just voting for whoever offers me the most which I think is dissgraseful. In the words of a great man ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

Well - you're not the only person there to believe that - if I was being selfish I would be a card carrying liberal then wouldn't I? But I’m not. I've been through uni now - why should I give a toss about others having to pay to get through - it makes it easier for me actually if there are less people out there. But i think it's wrong - hence why i vote on policies that I feel will serve the country best as a whole.

Regardless what you argued about here contradicts your initial post - as 'MY FAMILY MADE OODLES OF MONEY THANKS TO THE LIBERALS SO FUCK YOU ALL' is just a *bit* opposed to your statement here that lectures people about self-serving ideals innit?

If your family made so much of the liberals, which is geared towards the upper classes and small business owners and making the rich richer as opposed to say the greens or what used to be the left wing ideals of the Labour party your argument here falls in a heap. I think I'm personally financially better off under this government but I don't want this government in - I feel they will drag this country into a nasty class system and seriously make it more socially unfair.

So in short - if you feel you want to argue pro-liberal - go for it - I'm sure there will be some arguments there that will be won by you - but if you're trolling don't try to justify it by promoting debate as it's pretty obvious that you're just making this up as you go along..

The funny thing here is that I normally get slaughtered in arguments.... I can see you getting yourself into a thread Vietnam..

Ah that's been cathartic.. I'll sleep now amd stop ranting. I normally can't be arsed but for some reason.. meh.. =D

(*) BTW that was JFK in his inaugural address - google is your friend and can also help make it look like you know what you're talking about. ;)
 
^^^ i can analyse the political systems here objectively too, and at the end i'm left wit hthe conclusion that the lbieral party is WRONG. economically, we'll be more sexcure under them, yes.

but not everything's about the fucking economy. no one gives a rat's arse how much tehey're earning if their health care and education are fucked, or perhpa sthey do ift hy';re lucky enough to be amongst the few of the higher-earnesr that the liberals benifite, surprise suroprise.

jesues fucking fchrist.

note: this was meant for pilltastic, not ozbreaker :)
 
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^^ Haha I love the economics is god argument :)

Well here's something for all you economics students to think about. In 200 years time when the Earth is nothing but a barren, desert wasteland and the vast majority of humanity is nothing more than mummified husks, being blown away bit by dusty bit by the scorching winds, I'd love to see your ilk try and eat your money then.

Money is nothing more than pieces of plastic and metal, and numbers that have been assigned arbitrary values so shallow people can feel justified in not giving a fuck about anyone/thing besides themselves.

Feudalism never really went away, it's just called capitalism now.
 
B.t.w : If Howard is damaged for lying about the children overboard imagine the parents and crew members that threw them into the water in the first place to be allowed access to our country... right on.
 
They DIDN'T throw them in the water... Jesus, the ignorance of it. There was a senate enquiry which repudiated that claim and the PM deftly sidestepped any blame for misleading the public by fobbing it off to his underlings in the defence department... Shit, with misinformed attitudes like yours its no wonder the coalition won such a resounding victory...

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