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Please compare Ketamine vs. Heroin

lee harvey

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Ketamine is the one any only elusive drug I've never tried. My DOC is heroin, lots and lots of heroin. How does it compare? The reason I ask is because I see it listed in another thread as a lot of people's favorite number 1 drug.
 
My two DOC's happen to be heroin and Ketamine, although I don't fuck w/kt as much as I used to (although, lately.....;) )

Honestly?? You really can't compare the two........heroin gives you that "warm blanket/everything's OK/chill out" vibe, which can be wickedly infectious (hence the presence of junkies)

Ketamine is a whole different entity. If you're into not moving, not having a solid grasp of what's going on around you, not CARING about having a solid grasp of what's going on around you, believing you're existing in an alternate reality, and having a great time experiencing the unique and vivid hallucinations that K has to offer........I say try it.....

honestly, I'm not a hallucinogen type of guy, but they'res something about a deep K-Hole that I jUst LOVE......For one, you're sort of "forced" to like it, because even if you did start to bug out, you'd be too fucking gone to do anything about it......But I firmly believe that everyone should experience a deep K-hole at least once in their lives.....it IS truely unique...


^^^probably made no sense.....sorry......coke.....:\
 
^^^good.....I guess my coke-induced rambling isn't so bad after all........


btw......IMO, both ket and dope are great "landing gear" for coke comedowns........

some might disagree, but I think so.....:\
 
I IM it (the liquid).....I feel it's a cleaner high......but it REALLY is worth trying, and the coolest part about ketamine is that it's REALLY HARD to OD on........you have to do a gargantuan amount.......

I IMed an entire 1000mg vial once on 3 drops of LSD-25.....

---I didn't know which way was up or down, but it was interesting to say the least.......
 
as itch said everyone needs to Khole at least once in there life. I have IM;d it several times and must say its some wicked fucked up matrix alternate universe shit.....very fun....
 
put it this way: I used to be fucking terrified of K (ever seen someone in a deep K-hole while sober???? kinda wierd to say the least....)

but once I tried it, I LOVED where it took me......and K DOES take you somewhere if you do enough of it......and you start to get used to the "hole" (no pun intended) experience after a while......

It's one of the more intriguing drugs I've tried......as far as it's effects on the brain.........

(*just IMed a cc........slipping awaaaayyyyy)
 
I too dislike psychadelics but enjoyed K a lot. It is a very gentle and slightly euphoric drug. But in order to really enjoy it I think you have to be the kind of person who enjoys being in altered states in an intrinsic sense. In other words, you enjoy the novelty of altered consciousness, independent of any specific euphoria or body high. Once you get to that point, it is a fascinating head space to be in.

It also produced intense music dependant euphoria with me. More so than any other drug, I would not do ketamine without music.

edit: Just thought I'd add that if you have ever done DXM they are very similar sort of. It's just that DXM to me has very dark, un-nerving undertones to it. Ketamine feels virtually identical in some ways, but with a much more light atmosphere about it. It produces the same cooridination and verbal difficulties as DXM. IE: Slow labored speech and robotic movements. But it lacks the absurdly bad hangover of DXM.
 
Yeah I would NEVER IM ketamine without music......I think that would really alter the Khole altogether........I love both Heroin and Ketamine, and like they said above its impossible to compare....but since your thinking of trying it......cook up a nice shot of heroin, and put about 20bd's of K in the rig and you'll be feeling fuckin great.......

But yeah K is definitely a strong drug, and when it takes you to K world, theres no turning back......and everytime you khole again after that, you'll instantly remember the alter K world......at least for me its like that.......a Khole is like an alternate reality......my trips are always sooo real that it seems like there is a K world there all the time if that makes any sense....
 
the residents is the best k music. ketamine and heroin seem uncomparable to me. acid and speed are probably closer.
 
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interesting thread actually..because i find IV, not IM but IV, ketamine to feel like pseudo-psychedelic heroin. ItchyScratchy said it really well, but i had to throw my 2 cents in. Oh, and i meant a below complete dissasotiation IV dose, where you arent completely gone and out of your body.

Another cool thing about K is if you walk around kind of slow, well speed really wont matter, it feels like you're almost weightless, or at least bouncing around on the moon.
haha.
 
I've never done Ketamine but i've done dxm. Can you tell me if these two even compare, although they are in the same class of drugs, perhaps dxm a tiny bit different but high doses they are in the same class of dissociative anesthetics, or so i hear. Which is better for a high, for health? What's the biggest difference? That's all. If i had to compare dxm to opiates, i wouldn't even want to start. I always thought that K was very similar to dxm, and when i did it i liked it, but back then i used to do dramamine/gravol to hallucinate and liked that too so8o But ever since then when i'd try dxm, it would give me a much dirtier high, and it wouldn't be near as good or pleasurable, though it was at first. I hate it now, and it really turned me off when i od'ed on dramamine/gravol and dxm, both in high doses, horrible, just horrible, but that is not the topic here.
 
When your talking about the k hole and you say how its like an alternate reality b/c the trips seem so real....how do you mean? When i'd do high dose dxm doses, with the lights off and lying on my bed, i'd fly through all these places and rooms which i had been in before in my life, i'd see every minor detail (though only outlined in a white and black and only the outline of the forms/shapes like in a square i would only see the outline to tell me it was a square in a white/grey/black colors for contrast, at times there would be other colours or i'd think there were), and i could be in one of the rooms of my own house, seeing and hearing my parent next door talk (once hear the exact things they were saying and i had no way since i had music on and they next day i though i hallucinated it but they told me what they talked about) and within a minute time i would be in a room of a house, across the atlantic ocean and some distance....and so one, like a spirit flying, other times i'd be in totaly new places, rooms, and worlds...is that sort of what k is like? Though i still don't know what you mean about alter reality when talking about K. I can relate to the alter reality feeling when doing shrooms, with shrooms it's exactly like Alchemist said '.......a Khole is like an alternate reality......my trips are always sooo real that it seems like there is a K world there all the time if that makes any sense....'. That's how i feel my shroom trips are, once you try shrooms for a couple times and you get the hang of the high, you feel like it's not a high, but a different thought process that creates the high, at it's literally such a thought influenced high, as opposed to opiates which like cocaine or speed are a DEFINITE/EXACT high with the same effects for everybody, if you know what i mean.
 
I did dope with k once and I liekd at first But right away I felt almost too fucked up. Got really dizzy and blurred vision. I was a little too fucked up for my taste.

-weez
 
the residents is the best k music

Actually, I quite like classical music as a background for ketamine. The two times I've felt a bit paniced with Kketamine were when listening to the normal stuff I put on when stoned or tripping (Osric Tentacles, Gong, Penguin Cafe Orchestra etc). One that worked really well was 'Danse Macabre' (the theme for the BBC series 'Johnathon Creek') - weird imagery. Others like 'The Scorcerer's Apprentice' (The mops/MickeyMouse scene from 'Fantasia' uses it) work really well, but anything that has a lot of differing elements allows you to jump from one musical thread to the other; I tend to avoid most music with lyrics with ketamine as language sort of grounds you (unless it's stuff like Massive Attack where it's difficult to make out the lyrics at the best of times!)
 
never tried K either... want to try it at some point...
but has anyone here ever had a really really bad experience with shrooms? I have, and I'll never do them again... as long as I live...
hallucinating was great and all, but I had this total intense sense of my life was really bad, and myself as a person was all wrong... seemed like I thought about every single thing I'd ever said even years back that might have been stupid and it was like each thing was as signifigant as if I'd gone to jail for life... or somthign.. when I came too, I was fine but it lasted for a few hours and the whole time all I could think of other than that was "what if I stay this way for the rest of my life"
I seemed destined for the insane ward for life, sitting in the corner banging my head against the wall... or worse..

So ever since I've been reluctant to try this similar....
anyone else relate to this?
 
I find music that had special meaning to me in my past bring back very vivid images in kholes...
 
psyches are not really my DOC but ketamine can be fun occassionally. it is a dissociative - a lot more "see yourself from above" kinda high than heroin. they both have a sedating feel to them, however.
 
Ketamine and Heroin is a good mix -- in the same syringe ;)

I know that was wreckless...

But I guess the only similar qualities I see are they obvious, both are downers. Ketamine will give you some awfully good insight though I find only useful later in life? While heroin just makes you melt in your couch w/o the psychedelic feelings.
 
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