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Pfafffed said:
We humans are all wired so differently. I approach taking a hit off a joint with the same trepidation as I would taking 20mg of 2C-E, maybe a little more. I'm super sensitive to it.
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Wish I could back to treating thc like that I smoke dabs like it's crack. Been on a break from it for 3 weeks though; finally starting to get some immersive dreams.
 
Glad to hear it, I'm still sitting on that and probably won't take much more than that myself for the first time. That certainly makes it sound nice. How far in are you?
 
Sounds great, you should still have some time left too. I might have to consider trying it myself soon if it's really that easy.... Everything else I have to consider seems so intimidating for the attitude I've had about it lately, I'd love to just get a nice, clean psychedelic high.
 
Nice, glad you're enjoying it. :) Hop you'll write a TR, or if it's not noteworthy enough at this dose, then at least at your next dose.

I always find it so strange that Shulgin reports "absolutely no effects" at 40mg with DOiP. But I had the DOiP lab analyzed, and it's 100% DOiP, nothing else in it. And me and everyone else who has tried it reports significant effects at much lower doses.
 
Xorkoth said:
I always find it so strange that Shulgin reports "absolutely no effects" at 40mg with DOiP.
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I was pretty sure you were right about that so I just looked it up because it is odd, but it actually says that about 4 mg. It's followed by this statement: "At 10 milligrams, there is some disturbance but substantially no effects. I have been told that with doses in the 20 to 30 milligram range there are valid changes in mental state, but I have not been told the nature of these changes." So, he does note there being something, although it doesn't seem like he was actually involved in the trial in any way.
 
Xorkoth said:
Nice, glad you're enjoying it. :) Hop you'll write a TR, or if it's not noteworthy enough at this dose, then at least at your next dose.
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I will not this time but probably when I have a higher dosed trial. :)

Xorkoth said:
I always find it so strange that Shulgin reports "absolutely no effects" at 40mg with DOiP. But I had the DOiP lab analyzed, and it's 100% DOiP, nothing else in it. And me and everyone else who has tried it reports significant effects at much lower doses.
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Where did he say that exactly? In PiHKAL it was mentioned that 20-30mg were required to produce a valid shift in mental space.
 
Kaleida said:
Sounds great, you should still have some time left too. I might have to consider trying it myself soon if it's really that easy.... Everything else I have to consider seems so intimidating for the attitude I've had about it lately, I'd love to just get a nice, clean psychedelic high.
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It's pretty benign at 8mg, physically as well as mentally.
 
I think the next new psychedelic I try i going to be 2C-T-4. I have a single dose of 8mg in solution. I'm thinking I'll plug it to get the most out of it. Not sure when, though. I will trip before then, but it'll be at a festival next weekend, so I'll be doing DOC and/or LSD, because they're great festival drugs, tried and true.

Kaleida said:
I was pretty sure you were right about that so I just looked it up because it is odd, but it actually says that about 4 mg. It's followed by this statement: "At 10 milligrams, there is some disturbance but substantially no effects. I have been told that with doses in the 20 to 30 milligram range there are valid changes in mental state, but I have not been told the nature of these changes." So, he does note there being something, although it doesn't seem like he was actually involved in the trial in any way.
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Huh, really? Poor reading comprehension I guess... I also was convinced I read of severe bodyload for 2C-N in PIHKAL, but in fact it never says that.

Weird, I SWEAR I remember reading that. I remember the text and everything that I thought I read. But I just looked, and indeed, you're right.
 
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