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[xammy]

Lately I have been getting visual distortions from smoking heavy sativa strains, anyone else got those? Reminds me of similar shaking vision when doing high(ish) doses of MDMA

 

[nugs_nugs_nugs]

I've finally had my first truly eye-opening experience with fungi. Ate a delicious eighth of it in a small peanut butter sandwich and experienced ego death. I have tripped on acid twice before and it was nothing like how exciting this was. I was very serene, very calm. I experienced consciousness outside of my body and felt completely at peace with the concept of death. Sure, my body can die, but consciousness is not tangible; it can theoretically live forever. My thoughts were fairly negative but I wasn't freaked out or scared.

I think I'll stick to some good weed for a little while though. I definitely need some time to process all that.

 

[pharmakos]

I still love the synthetic cannabinoids. It seems like people get offended sometimes when I say that. Pot users are a funny bunch, the biggest drug snobs there ever were. Only pot users will call for other drugs to be banned that they see as dangerous.

you must have a batch of some old JWH laying around. the current generation of 'noids is pretty eh.

if i had some leftover JWH-122 i'd definitely still be smoking it. god i miss that stuff. might try to order some from over seas eventually...

 

[Help?!?!]

Yeah right, good AB-FUBINACA is nearly as JWH-018 the best noids ever IMO, maybe besides the CPs. I don't remember you ever said you smoked it but people in the synthetic cannabinoid mega thread agreed with on that sentiment.

 

[amanitadine]

Yar JWH-122 and 250 were class....I had some good times with 018 years ago, but a few overdoses scared the shite outta me! I haven't mucked with AKB-48 or the 5-F counterpart..nor the FUBINACA or pinaca or UR-144 and its fluorinated friend or whatever the fuck....kinda lost track! After being a daily cannabis smoker for 20 plus years I gave it up....have smoked the odd bowl here and there, and wow, a year off makes a world of difference!

Are there any cannabinoids that would assist in Kratom withdrawals, now that I've gotta do it again since I dropped the ball on my Ibogaine epiphany? Like more CB2 selective or partial agonists? Those full CB1 agonists are too much for me at this point, and as I haven't bought weed in ages I dont aim too....but some cannabinoid action can work some magic during opioid withdrawals...for precisely the reasons Roger so eloquently stated earlier in this thread...

Trying the patented Help?? method of 5 mg oral 3-MeO PCP for life enhancement today...so far so good. Getting work done...it's like ten degrees outside, so actual farm work ain't happening, but Ima beasting my way through ordering seeds and planning my irrigation setup...greenhouse is just about done, putting in the propane tank today, hooking up the heater, will be planting seeds hopefully by Monday....ahhh the pastoral life. Farm fresh chicken eggs for breakfast with pickled kale and some lamb sausage....yums..

 

[pharmakos]

i never did try AB-FUBINACA.... too late now i suppose

EAM-2201 was really awesome when it was available briefly last year. its not explicitly scheduled, but all the vendors got too paranoid about selling it.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I hated synthetic noids, I only tried 018 and 122 but they made me so uncomfortable and if you smoked even just a tad too much it felt like my heart was gonna beat out of my chest.
I much prefer my pot any day, plus the taste of marijuana is priiiime

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Lately I have been getting visual distortions from smoking heavy sativa strains, anyone else got those? Reminds me of similar shaking vision when doing high(ish) doses of MDMA

Xammy, here is an interesting bit of info. Learning to trip on pot seems to be a 'learned behavior' and here is why I say that...first off on a personal level I have always had these psychedelic effects from pot..and I was totally unaware when I started smoking that marijuana did this. I thought pot just made a person laugh and act silly, so the first time I got high and started experiencing all of the effects I read about that were associated with LSD I was very taken aback. I like to say I had my first trip on pot because it is true. Now here is what is interesting..to me anyway. I have had a couple people, one as recent as this summer, who have smoked pot a lot longer than they knew me...start to experience these psychedelic marijuana effects after hanging out with me, becoming aware pot can be psychedelic, etc. This is probably a subcatagory of the 'group high' or 'contact high' phenomenon. I just find that fascinating...that a person can smoke pot all their adult lives and never experience the 'psychedelic side' until someone makes them aware that it even exists. I have always wondered why I managed to trip out on weed at the tender age of 15 right away but most likely it was because I was obsessed with the Beatles and I was becoming obsessed with learning all I could about psychedelic drugs, so when I first tried marijuana and first thing I did when I felt something was put on Sgt Pepper....no doubt in my suggestible state something clicked and I experienced a trip.

you must have a batch of some old JWH laying around. the current generation of 'noids is pretty eh.

if i had some leftover JWH-122 i'd definitely still be smoking it. god i miss that stuff. might try to order some from over seas eventually...

Yeah right, good AB-FUBINACA is nearly as JWH-018 the best noids ever IMO, maybe besides the CPs. I don't remember you ever said you smoked it but people in the synthetic cannabinoid mega thread agreed with on that sentiment.

I am so glad to see I am not alone! Yes, the AB-FUBINACA as well as the AB-PINICA are just as good as the originals. The 2nd and 3rd generation noids totally, they were garbage but these 'pinicas' are amazing. I could not believe it when I got a high from one that was just like JWH-18 (my favorite of the originals)...I thought I would never experience that again.

 

[pharmakos]

all this noid talk is making me second-guess my desire to quit =p

 

[coelophysis]

I just smoked the last of my 2 year stash of 1gram of 122 last night.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I just smoked the last of my 2 year stash of 1gram of 122 last night.

ON the other hand, I have found myself saying to friends or family that 'I don't recommend you use this.' I am always happy to share after sufficient warnings, but unlike other psychedelics which I whole heartily recommend...these synthetics are not something I feel good encouraging others with.

Part of that is because we may know what these drugs do in mice courtesy of the firms that developed them...but we have no idea of the long term effects of smoking these compounds in humans. The other part is that I personally find the borderline schizophrenic states that smoking huge hits utterly fascinating and astounding but I am not sure it is particularly useful or life changing in the way that a scary acid trip is. The fact that I have flat out wigged the fuck out on ABfupinica in a way that I am not sure even the scariest acid trip I had in my teens could touch. That astounds me.

I do strongly disagree though when people say that you can just smoke pot. These synthetic noids are nothing like pot. I have made some 'blends' comprised of two or three of the 3rd generation ones that did resemble 'mid grade' pot. If memory serves, UR-144, the 5f version, and one more really did make for a high that was so pot-like that it could have fooled anyone. But other than that example....AB-Fupinica and some of the other brand new ones are so absolutely outside of what cannabis can do....that advice to just smoke cannabis makes no sense because no amount of cannabis will achieve that sort of high....both in terms of intensity as well as qualitative effects. I think in my long history of cannabis use, a single half ounce of some sort of old world hashish I managed to get a hold of was a strong as some of these synthetics.....and that's it. These things are not for the faint of heart.

 

[pharmakos]

interesting that you enjoy wigging out on synthetic cannabinoids, but you don't like 3-meo-pcp

 

[Roger&Me]

A.B. Fubinaca would be a good name for a villain in a movie imho

 

[Morninggloryseed]

interesting that you enjoy wigging out on synthetic cannabinoids, but you don't like 3-meo-pcp

The thing is the cannabinoids appeal to me on so many levels. They are incredible for making music and mixing music, incredible for enhancing the experience of listening to music. The synthetic noids were so incredible for mixing music man, my 'Medley' was completely conceived and executed while high on noids...and sure I am partial to my own music but I've had BLers tell me they listened to it while on dissociatives (MXE) and I've never had music reach people before, or music that other's listened to on their own trips! I mean to me that is quite an accomplishment...to make drug music.

The 3-MeO-PCP produced a state that was nothing short of utter impairment and stupification. I don't even like to drink alcohol beyond a cup of wine because I can hear a difference in my guitar playing. With the 3-MeO-PCP, I was literally confused about how to use and refill my trusty nicotine vaporizing device, i was confused about the clock on the wall, and what 3:00 meant (no shit man, this really happened). Any compound that impairs my ability to play the guitar, much less to make and execute decisions related to mixing music is not a drug for me. And unlike ketamine, it didn't enhance the music appreciation experience. It really had no effect what-so-ever in that department. I would not be able to write or perform any music on 3-MeO-PCP I probably would have trouble figuring out how to turn the machines on.

And it would be one thing if those effects were short term but my balance was still off more than 12 hours later..long after the mental effects seemed to end.

So yeah on the surface it sounds a little inconsistent doesn't it...but if you understand from the POV that one of these drugs helped me to produce music that not only i enjoy, but that others claim they enjoy...and the other drug made me into a zombie while failing to even produce the sort of experience I would look to a dissociative for...it isn't inconsistent at all. I find it a little disgraceful to be so stuptified that I can't figure out time, or how to unscrew a cap and add fluid.



Well the 3-MeO-PCP has produced some cool back and forth discussion about it so that is one positive quality. I'm glad to be a BLer and to have folks like you guys to talk about these things with. Ya'll are awesome.

A.B. Fubinaca would be a good name for a villain in a movie imho

I know where do they get these names from!

 

[Help?!?!]

A.B. Fubinaca would be a good name for a villain in a movie imho

I told you TNW everyone loves it even the movies....

 

[pharmakos]

Wile E. Coyote's partner imo





also, 3-MeO-PCP greatly increases the enjoyability of guitar playing for me as long as i keep my doses reasonable. but i think that has to do with my absurd dissociative tolerance.

 

[Bill]

I had a dream that someone stole an ounce of dmt from me last night
It was weird too because I didn't even care because it was fake dmt

It's also weird that the first time I ever got the chance to buy dmt a couple weeks ago it turned out being bunk

Payed a low price, I guess, for a gram waited a few days and was ready to blast off
Loaded not even 40mg layered inbetween pot in an old wooden pipe and slowly took a couple hits
No effects what so ever, so tried again 4 or 5 times with larger doses each time and still nothing

I almost felt a little mood lift and thought I heard a slight initial buzzing but I guess it was placebo
It looks like the dmt I've seen irl once and smelled/tasted like it, but I have no fucking idea what it really is

I still have it, I wonder if I should send it to xtcdata

 

[Shambles]

Shammy good to see you here. That commute to EADD gets exhausting...mind you, I'll still be there....still the home of many of my favs....I just wandered back into these parts myself after a few year absence, expected a bunch of unfamiliar names, but got quite the contrary! I hear ya on the phasing out of the non swirlies....

Well look who one duz dun do meet 'ere in PD Social

Claim to fame/Just showing off: Y'know I am to blame for the term 'swirlies'? Well I am. It's probably the closest to a Good Thing I've done since being here 8)
neckbreaking ramble
(actually it isn't but it really would be a bit wanky to specify and am being quite wanky enough as it is... i blame the booze )

Hiya Shambs!! :D Cheers for cleaning up a bit, I'm trying to take more responsibility also.
Nice to have you here, you can contribute to our neckbreaking ramble record that is blowing up this thread.

Isn't it just

just like texas chainsaw massacre 4: the next generation, that's another really bad yet hilarious movie.

Unlike the remakes which are just plain bad


Apologies for skipping inbetweeny pages, but y'all talk too damn quick

Have some more tunes instead...

For the rawkers... Pink Fairies - Waiting For The Man - mid-70s protopunk that will please you

For the ravers... Mory Kante - Yeke Yeke (Afro Acid Remix)

 

[pharmakos]

has anyone else tried that DMT, bill? the one time i ever bought DMT i got no effect from it. then i let a friend rip it, and he went way out there.

there's an urban legend that DMT only works if you extract it yourself or if its gifted to you.

 

[Shambles]

has anyone else tried ... DMT

Yes.

(and the urban legend may or may not be true, but of the several grammes i've smoked it's all been gifted to me)

Pee Ess: Apologies, had to re-edit post to make it fit. Dammit I'm sloppy when it comes to posting sometimes