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so guys, i've already talked about this with Help?!?!, but i've decided to quit smoking synthetic cannabinoids.

they've been a daily thing for me for almost 3 years now. the last year and a half or so my use has been a lot lighter (only smoking one or two times a day most days)... and it takes me 3 months to smoke $20 worth of them... but still, at least once a day...

its been hard to sleep without them... and i would probably keep smoking them if i could have just stuck with JWH-018 or JWH-122... but they keep getting banned, and i have to switch to a new one every few months... and i really don't think smoking a new chemical every few months is good for you...

my main concern is that one of them might end up being a potent DNA alkylating carcinogen...

when i first started smoking them it was supposed to just be a temporary thing when i started selling them... until i could afford to buy some good old marijuana... then i got hooked... i like that they're a short-acting high... makes it possible to sneak in a toke early in the day / between chores/errands... also its awesome that they don't show up on drug tests...

still, though, they worry me. and the highs the newer generation of them produces aren't even really that great.

so yeah, wish me luck guys!
 
Thanatos said:
I've been having day dreams of getting a couple sheet circa 08-09. Best two years this century.
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Au contraire! 2000 was the best in my book....Fab L at ridiculous prices, Pickard I reckon...I was in full swing, and an army of bees in full swing, filling the niche with folk art chem before China took over....granted, I, uh, wasn't around in 2008...but 2009 did have some fab gels :)
 
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I don't remember the amber gells but the rainbow/tye dye gellies from 2007 were great. They tasted sweet, weren't the mist potent but 3 gave a very good trip and they were really cheap. There was actually a lot of great acid that year. Anyone remember the Alex Grey Dalai Lammas? They were sold as Czech xtal, and those were potent hits.
 
amanitadine said:
Au contraire! 2000 was the best in my book....Fab L at ridiculous prices, I was in full swing, and an army of bees in full swing, filling the niche with folk art chem before China took over....granted, I, uh, wasn't around in 2008...but 2009 did have some fab gels :)
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2000 was great too IMO. I had my first acid trip that year and it was purple gellies. Also there was always vials available, my best friends older brother would always hook us up and it was always easily available in school.
I hope to get some L this summer, it's been a few years now since I've had any and it would be nice to revisit it.
 
So I am starting to withdraw, but I decided this is it, I am not taking more opiates. Instead I plugged 10mg of MXE, and have a couple more 10mg doses weighed out and capped. Let's see how this works as a withdrawal aid. That was 10 minutes ago, I actually already feel quite a bit better. :)

Help?!?! said:
Xork, cool stuff mang! What sort of church/choir is it? Also are you a good singer or do you just do it for the love of music?
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Yeah I'm a good singer, if you ever hang out with me in person and there's music I constantly sing my own parts to it, it's usually subconscious. Feels really good to sing, it's the vibrations.

I started withdrawing in choir practice, it lasted an extra half hour too, it was pretty intense. I started to feel a bit trapped, in the room with everyone at least 15 years older than me, the tenors next to me are 75 and 80. I told them all the other stuff going on with me but I don't want them to know about the drugs.

thenightwatch said:
so guys, i've already talked about this with Help?!?!, but i've decided to quit smoking synthetic cannabinoids.
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I never really liked the synthetic cannabinoids very much, they felt a little sketchy to me. I smoked them for a while because they were so cheap. One time my best friend was visiting and we got wasted (on alcohol) and I decided we would smoke some JWH-018... I drunkenly poured enough in my bong slider to cover the surface (my friend said it was a mound of powder) and ripped it all... I blacked out for a minute and came to in the weirdest state. Everything was too intense to move. I couldn't express myself, I felt like I was dead but perceiving. After about 10 minutes my friend started asking me if I was okay and all I could do was twitch my eye at him. About 15 more minutes he was scared and started telling me if I couldn't answer he was going to call 911 because he didn't want me to die. I managed to get out "...don't..." so he didn't. After a little while more I still couldn't move, so he lifted me and put me down on a cushion and I fell asleep. Woke up a few hours later in the morning feeling fine. And 2/3 of my JWH gram was gone.

Obviously that's a ridiculous use, but it illustrates one reason I am wary.
 
oh wow dude, yeah that sounds like a huge dose.

i used to smoke like 100mg or more of JWH-122 / JWH-210 / AM-2201 a day... lately though i only smoke like less than 10mg a day (of BB-22 these days).

i don't think i'll notice any withdrawal symptoms other than difficulty sleeping... i am in the habit of ending every night with a nightcap bowl (often my only smoke of the day)

i've got melatonin and diphenhydramine around to help if the insomnia gets unbearable.

tonight i should be able to sleep because i have some beer, but that's not a daily thing for me (though i would like to drink a couple beers a day, for its health benefits :))
 
the synthetics have more of a withdrawal possibility than marijuana does... its because most of the synthetics are full agonists, where as the cannabinoids in cannabis are only partial agonists
 
i get bad withdrawal from regular cannabis tbph

although i think my endocannabinoid system is just fucked cuz i started smoking at 13, and i smoked like an 8th a day of cannabis cup level shit from 18-25.

good for you quitting the synthetics, tnw.
 
Wow, yeah, I started at 17. I can definitely imagine that regular exposure to cannabinoids at such a young developing age could leave a mark on your brain. I always felt lucky I was so unexposed to drugs until I got older. I was always passively anti-drug, like I just heard they were bad and had no exposure to them at all. Once I started hanging out with friends who smoked, I could see a different side and I became interested.

That sucks that you get withdrawal from regular weed. I would hate that. I always wondered why some people experience that and some don't. That would make a good study: do you experience marijuana withdrawal, and how old were you when you started smoking.
 
yeah it sucks. i usually smoke 2 weeks on, 2-3 weeks off nowadays. the first few days of a break are usually sweaty, chills, irritable, no sleep. reminds me of a mild opiate withdrawal. makes sense because the endocannabinoid system and the opiate/endorphin system interact allosterically and through receptor cross-talk so they're kind of like different locks on the same door.

its not as bad as it used to be though, now that i'm smoking a lot less. i still think cannabis is overall the least harmful drug that can be used regularly, and i get a lot of benefits from it too, so i just try to keep things in perspective and use it responsibly. i think my blatant abuse of the plant was what got me in trouble in the first place. i'm just glad that dabs weren't as popular when i was heavily smoking, because i probably would have taken dab hits all day every day and been even worse off.

and speaking of which, gonna pack myself a bowl of sweet island skunk to go with this bigfoot barleywine i'm imbibing. definitely a solid 9.5/10 batch of pot.
 
Delsyd said:
The popularity of hash oil came right on time. It coincided perfectly with the popularity of e-cigs making it possible to smoke hash oil nearly anywhere these days if you're at least a little careful about it.
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Isn't it weird how that fell into place like that? I mean portable vaporizers have been around, but once the nicotine style ones came out, the possibilities became a hell of a lot easier and cheaper.
 
I still love the synthetic cannabinoids. It seems like people get offended sometimes when I say that. Pot users are a funny bunch, the biggest drug snobs there ever were. Only pot users will call for other drugs to be banned that they see as dangerous.
 
Roger&Me said:
i get bad withdrawal from regular cannabis tbph

although i think my endocannabinoid system is just fucked cuz i started smoking at 13, and i smoked like an 8th a day of cannabis cup level shit from 18-25.
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I have also experienced pretty bad withdrawal from cannabis, though I tend to think that its not really a physical sickness or extreme mental craving but a surge of anxiety. Mainly lack of appetite, insomnia, feeling low, sweating heaps. These symptoms are basically the same as anxiety symptoms in me at least.

FWIW I also started smoking around that age...:\

Delsyd said:
The popularity of hash oil came right on time. It coincided perfectly with the popularity of e-cigs making it possible to smoke hash oil nearly anywhere these days if you're at least a little careful about it.
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Hash oil is absolutely superb. An old friend, also a seller of pot, used to give me the scraps from huge garbage bags of weed as well as all excessive leaf/stem, etc. which we would use to make beautiful has oil. Definitely a different sort of high...

I had a weird day today, went to work pretty high and felt incredibly uncomfortable all day- sweating a lot and nauseous and sort of detached from people around me. I used to love getting high before work; made the day so much better- recently not so much. Which is probably a good thing...

Time for some gunja :) <3

PEACE
 
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