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Aldi is awesome. They cut corners to be cheaper. They have fewer checkout people who are very fast. They do only store brands For a long time every product had a three-digit code (no barcodes) and the checkers knew them by heart. But that meant they could only have 1000 different products in the store. Now they have barcodes but they put like 5 huge barcodes all over the container so the checkers don't have to orient the thing to scan itl.
 
I ended up getting some u47700 and am enjoying popping in and out of the nod. I find this stuff to be stronger and more euphoric than oxycodone. Oxy is more of an energetic opiate while this stuff is great for nodding.

I find the stuff pleasant but so short even though I only use it orally. It leaves me a bit irritable after too. Not sure I like it enough to desire any more. Nervous to push the dose and it doesn't seem worth it.
 
It is pretty short, i feel the need to redose 2-3 hours in. I don't mind pushing the dose a bit, I enjoy higher dose opiates. Today I did 35mg followed by 20mg and then another 20mg. After the 2nd dose is when I started to nod and feel itchy and just overall feel very nice after having a seriously stressed day at work
I'm a bit a junky at heart. Opiates are one of my favorite drugs and certainly the most addictive. I'm just lucky that I've been able to realize that and I don't go seeking them out or have any connects for them, but if offered I'm happy to buy some. With the U4 I sought it out because I got stuck in a mental loop craving opiates after being shown heroin recently. But after I run out of it, probably in a week or so, I'm not going to get any more for a few months.
 
It is pretty short, i feel the need to redose 2-3 hours in. I don't mind pushing the dose a bit, I enjoy higher dose opiates. Today I did 35mg followed by 20mg and then another 20mg. After the 2nd dose is when I started to nod and feel itchy and just overall feel very nice after having a seriously stressed day at work
I'm a bit a junky at heart. Opiates are one of my favorite drugs and certainly the most addictive. I'm just lucky that I've been able to realize that and I don't go seeking them out or have any connects for them, but if offered I'm happy to buy some. With the U4 I sought it out because I got stuck in a mental loop craving opiates after being shown heroin recently. But after I run out of it, probably in a week or so, I'm not going to get any more for a few months.

Shit man, those doses are already well past where I feel safe. I too feel like I would go to town on em if I could though... mmm.

I hit a nod around 20-30mg and that worries me because I don't know where "too far" is with this one. Suffice to say the nausea is enough to scare me off when I hit that point anyways. I dabble with O-DSMT and hydrocodone from time to time. Hydro is my favorite opi of that I've tried (hydro, codeine, o-dsmt, u-4 and oxy) but o-dsmt seems to hit right where I want as far as accessible ones go. 15mg is good for itching my ass off in a theater with a grin plastered on my face and not a care for whatever the plot may be.


Had no idea aldi was trader joes. My folks like two buck chuck (Charles Shaw) from Joe's, so much so that as a kid they'd smuggle bottles in our suitcases back from Cali. I'll never forget the look on my dads face when the luggage guy was like, "Wow this is heavy, you don't have bottles of wine in here do ya?"
 
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ODSMT is good stuff. I defintely miss the days of IM'ing it with MXE, taking some hydroxyzine, and pregabalin before it. Sometimes a while later doing a psychedelic with more MXE or 3-MeO-PCP. Good times! I've never been able to get much from hydrocodone. Last time I took some six or seven years ago, I had a CWE of 120mgs, went to a fire, drank a twelve pack, and didn't even catch a nod. Oxycodone all day. Besides a gram of so of ODSMT in September I haven't had opioids in a year. Follow the Del action plan. Once every few months or so I pick some up if I feel like it. I had a good time with the ODSMT and clomethiazole though.
 
I want some mafuggin opiates. Still on 8mg/day of bupe. Actually I'm coming up on my anniversary of going on bupe this time (i've been on 3 or 4 times depending on how you count all told for 6 years I guess), I don't recall exactly when but it was in January. A holiday would be nice ..
 
leaving for Portugal tomorrow, happy holidays everyone. much needed break from everything - see you on the other side.
 
Thinking of opioids really bums me out... I have this feeling like I will be getting generally bad health, lots of aches and shit from former lifestyle - and being particularly sensitive to various sensations I fear that I will end up on opioids to avoid that shit impeding my life. But obviously that is the beginning of the end either way. Not sure if that's hypochondriac, I do easily physically feel like shit if I do anything less than take very good care of myself.
On the other hand, it's cause my life is falling into place that I would have more to lose regarding functionality..

Speaking of hands, my medications are giving me paraesthesia in my left hand :\ vasoconstriction from the dexamph probably... really sucks cause it messes with playing the piano for example.

@vegetarian diet etc: my best friend has been vegetarian for quite a long time but at some point felt so 'weak' (not even muscle health per se, but lack of vigor etc) and it was hard to substitute with nuts and cheese etc - red meat really did the trick when he felt like he sort of had to. I think he just moderates it a lot now. Aims for vegetarianism, but at times either succumbs or eats meat out of necessity.
I do take whey protein + carb shakes when I hit the gym, but don't want to spend money on 'time release' proteins (casein would be a primary choice). I also distrust dairy a bit and seriously moderate milk etc intake and make my shakes with soy milk instead. I love that almond milk stuff but don't have the money for it. I'd eat some serious superfood granola mix if I had the money for it.
I hate cheese though, fuck that shit right in its emmenthaler orifices. I'm glad I don't eat it seeing those carbon footprint graphs etc.

Really like that joke solistus xD
But just to be clear, I do respect conscious lifestyle choices like veg diet, but indeed there is no need to get snobby or arrogant about it. It's fine to just discuss the matter with people assuming a calm and reasonable mentality. There are a lot of silly diets going around though, like palo / all raw or the fad to eat gluten-free even if you have no allergy to it. Sure, if you just find it works better for you go right ahead but don't make a fashion item out of it like an idiot.
And don't get me started on this hype to not vaccinate your infant, basically any of these pseudo-smart alternative choices based on absolute trash as evidence. It's fine if you're not big on science but be careful not to get swayed by people who know fuck all about it as well but are spreading misinformation like a meme.
Food science can be terribly complicated, it's so hard to get proper evidence from studies... there are few areas of science where there is so much contradiction. So feel free to do what works for you, but be a bit skeptical about these diets.

Holidays now! Had last day of work today... will be making some sweet progress on my automated indoors plant 'greenhouse' unit I've been building at home - will show pics later - and am responsible for the christmas family dinner.. (deer steak and gourmet mushroom sauce, parsnip fries, jerusalem artichoke soup, oven roasted veggies or perhaps a veggie stew instead..)

Feeling more and more confident that they will help me the best they can to validate and fund the study I want to do (mechanical engineering design / drawing), with very good chances of internships and jobs when finished. Will try to help out more in the wood lab where I work now, to prepare for the study load...
My main co-worker in that wood lab is such a sweet guy, a generous successful artist teaching me the ropes of carpentry etc. I love that guy!! He's nearly half the reason I am always glad to go work at the academy (just don't like waking up early and doing complicated traveling)..
We went to an exhibition where there were installations on display (I helped work on the winning artist's installation, she also did a performance which was the main thing)... the installation is mainly a cabin you enter with a stranger, together you decide how far a bench is extended (everything made of wood), and how much time you roughly want to spend on talking... then the point is to create a special and intimate moment basically. I did that with a girl from my party and we exchanged a note / letter. She wants me to reply and send a letter to her home - to get to know me I guess. :)

Happy holidays you guys :) <3
 
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Yall be careful with that u4. Seen too many "this is posterX's family and they oded. We found a bag of u4 by them" this year.
 
Damn opiates. I got 10 x 30mg methadone tablets. For me, The perfect opiate, high for 36 hours. I don't like the nod, I like the calm stimulation of Lower doses.

After this lot, gonna attempt opiate free life again.
 
christmas family dinner.. (deer steak and gourmet mushroom sauce, parsnip fries, jerusalem artichoke soup, oven roasted veggies or perhaps a veggie stew instead..)

Wow, that sounds delicious. Do you usually do a lot of cooking?
 
^ I can identify with extreme temptation to get wibbly-wobbly on addictive drugs. What works for me is to look at it as a challenge to flex my self-control.

My internal monologue is kinda like, "I dare you to go cold sober today. I bet you can't do it. Pussy."

And then I get all riled up, "Who are you calling a pussy, mate?!"

And after a bit more back-and-forth with myself, I decide to show myself who's boss. (It's me. I'm the boss.)
 
Good luck swilow, you're not alone! My opioid addiction was not for many years on end or anything, but I pulled through... had a really shitty half a year or so with the paws and just general despair, but working hard to fill my life with other stuff again worked. I'm confident you can manage, esp with mrs swilow standing by you? You're a good guy, keep your chin up. :)

Wow, that sounds delicious. Do you usually do a lot of cooking?

It does doesn't it? Although the jerusalem artichoke will be a premiere since I couldn't find any earlier for a trial run..
Yeah I like to try cooking a lot of things, especially in the past - now my energy is focused on other things, but I still dabble. I log things i make, in general.. here's some cooking stuff:

http://www.zwonko.com/lab/kitchen

i thought the moebius strip pasta was pretty funny :P yes im a nerd

Definitely recognize the self-control thing! It gets really weak with frequent use of addictive drugs. But when you get a chance to come off them, with the freedom and support to afford feeling like shit for a while, it's even more important to train that self-control muscle than to train your body to have the vigor to cope and keep up. Exercise is a step up because it takes discipline and having to tolerate the strain and pain etc. For me starting to go to the gym again sucks in the beginning but you get used to it after a while. Just have to get over that first bump, then it starts to feel good to reinforce such positive habits because you appreciate the pay-off relative to the investment. It's quite slow compared to drugs which are in some ways quite a small investment of real effort but an immediate pay-off.

Especially for people who have trouble imagining the value and thereby finding the motivation to keep drug use responsible and turn around habits... it's important to just believe in it.

But yeah, I was already behaving really well regarding addictive drugs, but drinking semi frequently... then when my mother said she would go alcohol abstinent until christmas I joined her, for health reasons and that self-control challenge. It's pretty important and powerful to reaffirm that you can do it, just like succumbing to cravings can chronically also be a powerful demotivator leading you to think that indeed you're a pussy who can't do it. Realizing this and believing it, in combination with a good plan that involves support and developing your outlook is the important first step. We shouldn't get hung up on the idea that the effects of cravings and addiction tell us what kind of person we are. That's just how reinforcement works.
 
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Möbius pasta goddamn. Hats off to you :)

This christmas, i will cook a whole salmon trout with potatoes, parsnip puree and a saffron-white wine sauce. Can't wait :)
 
It's pretty important and powerful to reaffirm that you can do it, just like succumbing to cravings can chronically also be a powerful demotivator leading you to think that indeed you're a pussy who can't do it. Realizing this and believing it, in combination with a good plan that involves support and developing your outlook is the important first step. We shouldn't get hung up on the idea that the effects of cravings and addiction tell us what kind of person we are. That's just how reinforcement works.

Well said! I've never been addicted to anything, but I also struggle with some kinds of negative reinforcements. Feeling frustrated can hinder productivity. And then low productivity leads to more frustration. You are so right about not letting our weaknesses define our ideas of who we are. Believing in our strength is so important. I'm trying to push through.
 
I feel weird today. Apathetic is probably the best word. Hmph.

I feel this way a lot at this time of year. The cultural overload gets overwhelming IMO. (Buy!Buy!Buy!) Even if you choose not to participate in Consumermas, the fact that the whole world seems to be in a frenzy of traffic and upping their personal debt has a way of seeping in at my edges. My tonic for apathy is always nature.:)
 
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