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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

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Buzz Lightbeer said:
Austria even announced a lockdown for the non vaccinated.
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Buzz Lightbeer said:
It is still peoples individual rights we’re talking about, I believe very strongly in that.
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While I usually agree with your statement, I think this a different story. I don’t know how the situation in Belgium currently looks like but our health care system, especially the medical personell is beyond overwhelmed. Yesterday we had more Covid infections per day since the start of the pandemic. Around 70% of those new infections are unvaccinated (Source (in German): https://wien.orf.at/stories/3128752/) and around 75% of the patients in intensive care are also unvaccinated (source (in German): https://orf.at/stories/3235440/). In Austria less than 70% of all adults are vaccinated so of course they put pressure on them, because those are the infections that really matter. It’s absolute madness here and something has to be done. When the government announced the 2G rule (vaccinated or recovered) there was an insane influx of people wanting to get vaccinated (Source (in German): https://m.faz.net/aktuell/politik/a...-auf-impfzentren-in-oesterreich-17622821.html) and I‘m sure its going to be similar with the lockdown for the unvaccinated (I‘d rather see a lockdown for everyone though, because our society is already extremely divided and this reinforces that even further).

I’m by no means saying this is the best solution or the way out of this pandemic but it will reduce the pressure on our hospitals and its likely that less people will die.
Vienna announced a 2G+ rule (entry is only granted if you‘re vaccinated & PCR tested or recovered & PCR tested) for our nightclubs, catering, etc. yesterday which, I think, is the right choice considering the current circumstances.

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The "killed every animal tested on" propaganda is often repeated but is not true. An extreme small percentage of people are dying or even experiencing serious side effects. Out of the hundreds of people I know and my friends who who got it (in real life, not counting Internet, I can only verify real life anecdotes), not a single one has had a severe side effect beyond feeling sick and sore, or dizzy for a few days. It's been almost a year since vaccines started being given. In February it will be a year for me. I know four people personally who died from covid and more than one co-worker has had a loved one die from it, one was a 30 year old otherwise health adult male. My real world experience does not in any way support this doom and gloom rhetoric. It's my conclusion that many people have been manipulated into being terrified and enraged by the conspiracy narrative.

That said, I still think it should be one's own choice. I just don't like how condescending a lot of people are about it (on both sides really), and how I get called a sheep for not buying the narrative, when everything I am seeing tells me it's wrong.

Anyway, I have enough of this discussion in CEPS so I'm gonna leave it alone now in here.
 
Weird everyone seems to have that experience with DPT. I used it at 100mg nasal and that seemed to be a perfect dose for me, personally I found it to be glorious. It was a little maybe confusing and intense at times but I didn't get any bad vibes from it, from beginning to end.
 
My arm still hurts from the vaccine which is weird cause I got my second shot on the 15th of oct. Only the part where I got injected. I dont think anything should be mandated if it can literally kill you no matter the chances. We have 95% first dose in nz and the mandates are so strict you cant not work or go shopping
 
Psychestim said:
While I usually agree with your statement, I think this a different story. I don’t know how the situation in Belgium currently looks like but our health care system, especially the medical personell is beyond overwhelmed. Yesterday we had more Covid infections per day since the start of the pandemic. Around 70% of those new infections are unvaccinated (Source (in German): https://wien.orf.at/stories/3128752/) and around 75% of the patients in intensive care are also unvaccinated (source (in German): https://orf.at/stories/3235440/). In Austria less than 70% of all adults are vaccinated so of course they put pressure on them, because those are the infections that really matter. It’s absolute madness here and something has to be done. When the government announced the 2G rule (vaccinated or recovered) there was an insane influx of people wanting to get vaccinated (Source (in German): https://m.faz.net/aktuell/politik/a...-auf-impfzentren-in-oesterreich-17622821.html) and I‘m sure its going to be similar with the lockdown for the unvaccinated (I‘d rather see a lockdown for everyone though, because our society is already extremely divided and this reinforces that even further).

I’m by no means saying this is the best solution or the way out of this pandemic but it will reduce the pressure on our hospitals and its likely that less people will die.
Vienna announced a 2G+ rule (entry is only granted if you‘re vaccinated & PCR tested or recovered & PCR tested) for our nightclubs, catering, etc. yesterday which, I think, is the right choice considering the current circumstances.

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I already regret getting into this. I don't have a solution. But there are lines you do not cross, it is a human right to choose not to be vaccinated (well not exactly in those words ofc), many people will have to choose between doing so and starving, that is literally forcing in my book. The western world seems to be in a war with the unvaccinated, we'll see how the attempted bullying turns out in the long run. Cause we're in this for a long time to come and the vaccines require timely booster shots. If it's been longer than 6 months since Pfizer, you're no longer "vaccinated" in Israel. People won't take it, the conspiracy theories, distrust and division are all over the place already. How long can you really remove a large group of people from society anyway.

My main issue is that we constantly seem to be pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable and what is not, in many respects that don't even have to do with COVID.
 
porkstock said:
Sounds like made up bullshit to me. You have a link for that?
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The only ones I can still give you are on websites you'll just say aren't trustworthy. Excuse me for being this way but I've played this game so much over the last two years I'm sick of it. mRNA gene therapy was something they'd been researching for a long time before covid was a thing. They killed tons of animals trying to get it right. Then they rushed, labeled it a vaccine (it isn't, at least not in the classical sense of the word), and now they've injected who knows how many with it with no idea what the long term effects are going to be. This isn't me saying this. It's documented in tons of papers. Just go to scihub and start reading (keeping in mind most of what is published now biased and only the things that get funding get studied/published).

You keep comparing mRNA therapy to injecting research chemicals. The irony is excluding some of the newer stuff most of the RCs on the market and the ones people here enjoy most have more clinical testing in rats/humans than these mRNA shots.

Here is my stance on it: The Government lies to me all of the time. Now the Government is trying to inject me with an untested drug and threatening to take away my rights if I don't take it. Therefor the best move is to not play their game. So I don't. I don't wear masks, I go where ever I want, and I'm not taking their drugs. No one has stopped me and I doubt anyone will. The same good nature of people they're exploiting is the same thing that keeps people from bothering me. The girl making minimum wage at the grocery store isn't going to risk her job because I'm walking around shopping without a mask on.

I could fake my status by forging papers like some but I'm not going to do it. I don't play the game. I'm not showing papers. I find it very ironic that the same people that yell about Nazis are the ones that want everyone to carry papers. I'm not carrying a digital version of the papers either (because I don't own a cell phone). Again I don't play their games. If I don't feed google information about my personal life it can't be used against me.

I do feel the need to warn you guys about something and it's the last time I'll talk about any of this here. There are a lot of people that just want to be left alone. They aren't really complaining about any of this covid stuff because it doesn't effect them. They're happy to stay in their house and only venture out for supplies when needed. As long as you don't bother them or try to force them to do things they're some of the nicest people in the world. But if you decide to go fuck with them in their castle do not be surprised when they respond with force. I am perfectly content to let the rest of the world go mad and stay in my castle. But the moment anyone comes into my castle making demand I will kill them. It's not something I want to do but if you leave me no choice there is only one way I can respond.

I think a lot of people have gotten so far removed from reality they've forgotten a silent majority still exists. A silent armed majority at that. I have a combat load for every gun I own and I did it without even really meaning to. That's 200 rounds for each rifle/pistol/shotgun most in magazines ready to go whenever I need them. It's not a good idea to start making demands of people like me. Especially when I'm one of the most law abiding community focused looking out for everyone but myself type of dude. When you push someone like me to the point where they're defending their community with a firearm you aren't going to win. It's simply impossible. At that point I've decided my own life doesn't matter anymore and I'm fighting for my bloodline. You do not want to provoke that type of reaction from anyone.

Just leave people alone. It isn't that hard.
 
the commies disarmed us in nz before implementing aparatheid. The UN agenda of disarming the world was so no one could revolt once they take over the entire world. We should be allowed to carry as much millitary gear as the army to put us on equal footing. I personally should be allowed to own a .50 BMG browning machine gun for my own liberty due to shit the governments can pull
 
HeadphonesandLSD said:
The only ones I can still give you are on websites you'll just say aren't trustworthy. Excuse me for being this way but I've played this game so much over the last two years I'm sick of it. mRNA gene therapy was something they'd been researching for a long time before covid was a thing. They killed tons of animals trying to get it right. Then they rushed, labeled it a vaccine (it isn't, at least not in the classical sense of the word), and now they've injected who knows how many with it with no idea what the long term effects are going to be. This isn't me saying this. It's documented in tons of papers. Just go to scihub and start reading (keeping in mind most of what is published now biased and only the things that get funding get studied/published).

You keep comparing mRNA therapy to injecting research chemicals. The irony is excluding some of the newer stuff most of the RCs on the market and the ones people here enjoy most have more clinical testing in rats/humans than these mRNA shots.

Here is my stance on it: The Government lies to me all of the time. Now the Government is trying to inject me with an untested drug and threatening to take away my rights if I don't take it. Therefor the best move is to not play their game. So I don't. I don't wear masks, I go where ever I want, and I'm not taking their drugs. No one has stopped me and I doubt anyone will. The same good nature of people they're exploiting is the same thing that keeps people from bothering me. The girl making minimum wage at the grocery store isn't going to risk her job because I'm walking around shopping without a mask on.

I could fake my status by forging papers like some but I'm not going to do it. I don't play the game. I'm not showing papers. I find it very ironic that the same people that yell about Nazis are the ones that want everyone to carry papers. I'm not carrying a digital version of the papers either (because I don't own a cell phone). Again I don't play their games. If I don't feed google information about my personal life it can't be used against me.

I do feel the need to warn you guys about something and it's the last time I'll talk about any of this here. There are a lot of people that just want to be left alone. They aren't really complaining about any of this covid stuff because it doesn't effect them. They're happy to stay in their house and only venture out for supplies when needed. As long as you don't bother them or try to force them to do things they're some of the nicest people in the world. But if you decide to go fuck with them in their castle do not be surprised when they respond with force. I am perfectly content to let the rest of the world go mad and stay in my castle. But the moment anyone comes into my castle making demand I will kill them. It's not something I want to do but if you leave me no choice there is only one way I can respond.

I think a lot of people have gotten so far removed from reality they've forgotten a silent majority still exists. A silent armed majority at that. I have a combat load for every gun I own and I did it without even really meaning to. That's 200 rounds for each rifle/pistol/shotgun most in magazines ready to go whenever I need them. It's not a good idea to start making demands of people like me. Especially when I'm one of the most law abiding community focused looking out for everyone but myself type of dude. When you push someone like me to the point where they're defending their community with a firearm you aren't going to win. It's simply impossible. At that point I've decided my own life doesn't matter anymore and I'm fighting for my bloodline. You do not want to provoke that type of reaction from anyone.

Just leave people alone. It isn't that hard.
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I'd have your back
 
I don’t know about killing animals for mRNA development, but I do know that thousands of animals off numerous types have been killed by scientists in the pursuit of psychedelic research. The more the research picks up in the current climate the more animals will have too die for the cause.

These days its seems to be special genetically engineered mice but I’ve read lots of papers involving cats and primates. I always find the cat ones a bit disturbing.
 
Perforated said:
I don’t know about killing animals for mRNA development, but I do know that thousands of animals off numerous types have been killed by scientists in the pursuit of psychedelic research. The more the research picks up in the current climate the more animals will have too die for the cause.

These days its seems to be special genetically engineered mice but I’ve read lots of papers involving cats and primates. I always find the cat ones a bit disturbing.
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Not liking the sound of that whatsoever

I'm sure BL could provide a couple of willing psyche guinea pigs, maybe save a cat or two....

Seriously, get the fuck offa the animals ya cunts. Horrific for them no doubt
 
Yeah well I mean... better all go vegan then, anyone seen videos of factory farms? I've seen 'em, absolutely horrific, disgusting, makes me mad tbh. Priorities....
And I'm still eating meat... fyi :S
 
Just going to ask here since I know I'll get an answer faster. Any of you guys sweat heavily the day after taking Phenibut?


Buzz Lightbeer said:
Yeah well I mean... better all go vegan then, anyone seen videos of factory farms? I've seen 'em, absolutely horrific, disgusting, makes me mad tbh. Priorities....
And I'm still eating meat... fyi :S
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Factory farms are disgusting and cruel. I'm saying that as someone that's familiar with taking animals to market.
 
Just reading the prose part of Tihkal right now and he mentioned these..
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These stamps were used to buy MJ back in the day from the Gov.
 
humans have eaten magic mushrooms since 8000 bc the earliest recorded caveman painting showed.

Makes sense now how they knew so much lol they were just tapping into the universe tripping balls on shrooms
 
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