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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

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I'm wondering if a dose of kratom which I do still have (green malay) might help here in a symptmatic, medicinal way?

Just thought about it.

I avoid kratom because it is incompatible with my digestive system.

But if it would help with comfort and battery for now- plus sleep, it may be worthwhile just this time.

It's an idea anyway. Just very wasted. Drugs of any sort is too much.

I may take what, 2 grams of Green Malay, on top of kava and Etiz no tolerance.

Just need some coping mechanisms here.

I'm leaning towards this. Or 2.5 grams is the question.
 
2.5 grams green Malay, and big edible dose. See how that works out mega sleepy still. About to vaporize herb, does alert me a bit and Katom should limit anxiety atm.
 
HeadphonesandLSD said:
Phenibut makes me type like a mad-man. I swear Russian space dust is the only thing that stimulates and sedates me at the same time. People probably think I've been on speed lately. The other night before I came here and barfed up a bunch of posts I was at my friend's house for a few hours. My buddy told me I'd been yammering on about shit for a half hour without stopping. I never talk that much.
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Me too man, I love phenibut, it without fail makes me feel optimal, comfortable, confident, sociable and inspired. I don't take it more than once a week ever anymore because of past dependence, but I take it before we play shows (for now, since we aren't playing multiple shows in a row or usually more than one per week - though that is about to change).

Last night we played a show in one of the biggest venues in town. We killed it! So many great comments from people we met. Then I got to stay and see 2 sets of Tauk. Those guys are so sick.
 
Xorkoth said:
Me too man, I love phenibut, it without fail makes me feel optimal, comfortable, confident, sociable and inspired. I don't take it more than once a week ever anymore because of past dependence, but I take it before we play shows (for now, since we aren't playing multiple shows in a row or usually more than one per week - though that is about to change).

Last night we played a show in one of the biggest venues in town. We killed it! So many great comments from people we met. Then I got to stay and see 2 sets of Tauk. Those guys are so sick.
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That's timely then. Sometimes just a breath of air and taste of a good night and time, can refresh your spirit so much.

Hope it does. Maybe you have been sent again, some intense prolonged "weathering", and it's tested the life of you, it all maybe started with that (Meth head?) watching his car...where's my dollar dude?...crazy slow old lady pulling away.

Like, the uncanny coincidences you feel you just don't need.

Cars crashing, WASPS, and more I bet.

We do often look at isolated events as lessons, accept them.

I speak personally when saying maybe we miss recognising when life is just stretching is, before it lets up because that's as far as we can go, fully stretched right?

The universe's whole plan.

Anyway, regardless @Xorkoth I really hope that is the case for you here and less stressful time follows now.

I took a little kratom, to ease post LSD energy crash and stave mood crash off while the phase passes, sleep, again...

An experiment to see if I could avoid the worst bit of everything, my own massive acute flat stuck in bed fatigue and low mood days after acid.

On paper, Kratom would be the thing. Upped tom4.5 grams so no tolerance good dose really.

I drank lot kava before, kava helps anxiety, depression after Acid but not physical mental crash.

They interact though. But I know kratom, sporadically and good while since last.

I noticed the fuzzyness. In my head.

Bit spinning from everything but it eases the anxiety, those nerve based tensions.

Now...I'm itching all over suddenly.
 
So, it's Sunday, the same one as earlier. Seems long time ago now.

By 1 pm, I was fearing not having a nice time whether I slept or not, and a few days like it.

The Kratom experiment to help that. It did help. It relaxed me a lot, my physical nerve issues actually.

And mind. Made me sleepy but I need sleep, and kava and weed there too.

But I didn't have a rough time, so this time a dose of Kratom passed a surely losing day otherwise.


I drank 60 grams kava though too so head spinning a bit.

Less kava if kratom again.
 
AutoTripper said:
Can you get some kava Buzz? You don't use cannabis I'm assuming (?)

Or kanna.
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Either I go old school 5 joints with my mate, which is always proper fun, but the night is all techno, very hard and fast. I'm worried that I have lost it you know in all this time. An empathogen possibly combined with ketamine is the safer bet.
But then I have to get around Seroquel blocking 5-HT2A.. I'm also worried I'll be stuck longer with lower serotonin levels, right?
 
Anyone ever hiked on 4-subs? Gonna drive down to the Redwoods today and spend a couple days hiking, trying to decide what to take. Will probably be on 3/4g of phenibut. I know 5-MeO-MiPT is a sure bet, but I wonder how 4-HO-MiPT or 4-AcO-MET would do. From what I remember, 4-AcO-MET might be a bit too visual, but I've never taken 4-HOMiPT at a full dose. Really wish I could plug 20-30mg DPT, but I'll have my dog with me so I won't be able to lay down if it gets too intense.

Oh or what about 1P-LSD? Would that be a solid choice?
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
Either I go old school 5 joints with my mate, which is always proper fun, but the night is all techno, very hard and fast. I'm worried that I have lost it you know in all this time. An empathogen possibly combined with ketamine is the safer bet.
But then I have to get around Seroquel blocking 5-HT2A.. I'm also worried I'll be stuck longer with lower serotonin levels, right?
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I don't actually know anything about the neurochemistry of SSRI's if that's correct, I've never actually once been on "medication" except asthma inhalers after madness allergies 2005-present.

Because I never needed it before then, weed was my medicine, I was an explorer too but life was good. I didn't know of "problems".

No bad days.

Since then, I'm literally allergic to all tablets, pharma meds and their excipients.

That includes SSRI's, anything swallowed liquid capsule tablet.

I am actually really allergies to 5htp too. Which I liked. Bad allergenic.

Clove too. Very strong sleep aid. Plus melatonin, and valerian but valerian is a less worthwhile buzz than nutmeg IMO.

So, I'm slow. I see you. It's the empathogen full stop you think, regardless of experience and blocking that may inhibit serotonin levels vs no empathogen?

Again I know not. But no bash is so worth it, if it causes long lasting unhappiness.

I'm a hypocrite except it's only short term acute intensity for me then righted as reign.

Just don't want you to set yourself back, having seemed to get a better moodvand focus going.

Hence me suggesting kava. It's very balancing for brain chemistry and neurotransmitters.

It's complimented by good weed too that's why I asked about that.
 
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Anyone ever hiked on 4-subs? Gonna drive down to the Redwoods today and spend a couple days hiking, trying to decide what to take. Will probably be on 3/4g of phenibut. I know 5-MeO-MiPT is a sure bet, but I wonder how 4-HO-MiPT or 4-AcO-MET would do. From what I remember, 4-AcO-MET might be a bit too visual, but I've never taken 4-HOMiPT at a full dose. Really wish I could plug 20-30mg DPT, but I'll have my dog with me so I won't be able to lay down if it gets too intense.

Oh or what about 1P-LSD? Would that be a solid choice?
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Yeah, 4-sub tryptamines are great hiking drugs, as long as you don't dose too high.

1p-LSD should be considered equivalent to LSD, in my opinion. If not exactly the same, close enough that you'd want to use it for the same purposes and in the same situations. So it makes a great hiking drug too.

I do think 5-MeO-MiPT is a better hiking drug probably than the 4-subs. The danger with the 4-subs is getting too high to really be able to hike. But as long as you don't do that, they're fine for it.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yeah, 4-sub tryptamines are great hiking drugs, as long as you don't dose too high.

1p-LSD should be considered equivalent to LSD, in my opinion. If not exactly the same, close enough that you'd want to use it for the same purposes and in the same situations. So it makes a great hiking drug too.

I do think 5-MeO-MiPT is a better hiking drug probably than the 4-subs. The danger with the 4-subs is getting too high to really be able to hike. But as long as you don't do that, they're fine for it.
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1p is however a shade off compared to 1cP. Below both 1cP and 25 in the standing order, potency and smoothness, while ALD is the other side of those two which are so hard to separate really, whereas 1P is seperable from 25 and therefore but anyway, 1cP too.

I have hundreds of 1P tabs, I do take them sometimes but while the cookie I mean lol literally Lysergamide jar is full I'm eating the Custard Creams for now.

I take the 1P for variety too, there does appear to be synergy between different Lysergamides and can actually add some extra signature.

Maybe 5, 6 most 1P tabs out of the 27. It's literally so "handy" as are two others now, I don't give any thought to the don't know number sealed jars of tabs about 6 feet away, because it's there.

I think about it only when I am deciding to take some, independently of actual reach as that just never needs to come into it.

1cP beats 1P though, as do the other 2 I mentioned.

I took AL-LAD twice, combined but very nice effect, is popular and I saw why, so gentle and easy going a Lysergamide, arguably the most purely recreational and no strings attached fun.

ALD> 25/1cP > AL-LAD > 1P for me from experience.

I'm not saying 1P isn't good drugs. But then vs ALD's magical depths and capability it's like the second best ride in the theme park, while these others are more like a different ride.

I would not be taking dozens of 1P tabs either like I do with 1cP, just throw them in for mileage, mix and match.
 
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ecstacylover said:
Anyone ever hiked on 4-subs? Gonna drive down to the Redwoods today and spend a couple days hiking, trying to decide what to take. Will probably be on 3/4g of phenibut. I know 5-MeO-MiPT is a sure bet, but I wonder how 4-HO-MiPT or 4-AcO-MET would do. From what I remember, 4-AcO-MET might be a bit too visual, but I've never taken 4-HOMiPT at a full dose. Really wish I could plug 20-30mg DPT, but I'll have my dog with me so I won't be able to lay down if it gets too intense.

Oh or what about 1P-LSD? Would that be a solid choice?
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I think hiking on 4 HO MiPT would be a good time.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yeah, 4-sub tryptamines are great hiking drugs, as long as you don't dose too high.
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I took a heroic dose of 4HOMiPT and went out to a club in Oakland. What saved me from jumping a Lyft to my buddy’s place was the massage set up in the back. I handed the woman 50$ and said “I’m having a hard time finding a good psychedelic wave.” The night was a great time afterwards.
 
Kratom saved me yesterday, officially.

First time I've taken Kratom since Covid. The kava and benzos calm my mind, but my nerves physically are in permanent agitation.

Post LSD with no new DFMN my mind has no system to stay calm with the actuve underlying physical nerve sensitisation.

Kratom appeared to work directly on this Nerve agitation.

Stopped me crashing energy wise and mentally too.

I'll definitely keep it around for such uses. I forgot how it feels to relax such is the intensity of the symptoms which never wind down. Like nothing makes me comfortable no matter, I just elevate and distract my consciousness, but kratom did put me into a total rest state by relaxing my actual nerves.

If I can just make a bit of use of kratom I can look at the benzo dependance differently too, see a way to mix match and be way less dependant.

Without messing up getting physically addicted to Kratom.

I know exactly where and how to draw the line in that equation.

I did that once, no need to again just no need that's all.
 
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yeah kratom is very relaxing, for sure, if you don't dose too much. Glad you can tolerate it with your immune system. As long as you can keep it to occasional use it really is a great substance.
 
Xorkoth said:
yeah kratom is very relaxing, for sure, if you don't dose too much. Glad you can tolerate it with your immune system. As long as you can keep it to occasional use it really is a great substance.
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The hurdle is digestive allergy. Likely there won't be a way to use it regularly.

But it got me out of a scrap yesterday a losing battle to stay on top, at rest and comfortable.

I got too comfortable. Complete rest. First time in a long time. I need that in my life. Just being at rest, for once was a trip and inspiring.

I took 4 grams Green Malay hours ago, more a jittery effect but I get very like that this stage of descent from tripping.

I'm about to get some kava in me, which will edge things off now after big edible dose minute ago.

Feeling sleepy from the GM and very wasted still. Pretty comfortable though just feel like I will be slipping into a dream state.

The Kratom is medicinally settling for my immune and nervous system.

But I still have allergenic issues so it will require me drawing a line. See if, how kratom can be used as a pure aid and tool in my situation or if not.

Exploring coping mechanisms now.

Hope you're set for a good week at work and home.
 
So I started incorporating compound exercises (squats & deadlifts) into my workouts, I love 'em. Following a full body workout plan now. Results are coming in, I'm getting stronger fast and I seem to have no issue putting weight on. My creatine is coming in tomorrow and I'm excited to see how that'll turn out, not expecting all that much but still.... curious huh.
I'll be addicted to this shit, I can already tell, I'm looking up calorie and protein content for everything LOL, constantly eating, and I can just tell that I'm looking fitter every week.
 
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