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organ donation (do it!)

I couldn't donate blood ages ago due to my tattoos. I did an organ donor + tattoos google search and it says "if organ donar has tattoos and/or body piercing, further investigation is required"
 
I also have been turned away from giving blood due to a piercing.

Just registered for organ donation online.. how easy is that?
 
My liver probably wont be much use to anybody by the time I cark it.
The rest of me is available.
 
SLM. Any smoker who smokes constantly and coughs and coughs and feel themselves getting short on breath and still continues to smokes deserves the fate they make for themselves. I used to smoke, I stopped cause I could feel it was getting to a stage where it wasn't simply a few ciggies while drinking and studying. Your body gives you clear signals that what you're doing isn't good for you, if you choose to ignore those signs why should someones organs be used to replace the perfectly good set they had to begin with that they chose to abuse.

Some people require transplants through accidents and genetic problems through no fault of their own. If someone gets lung cancer by inserting ciggies into their mouths, consciously lighting up and inhaling the smoke, they should have to deal with the consequences of their actions. I agree with you that all people have a right to live, but I also believe that all people should be responsible for their choices and actions and accept the consequences of said choices and actions.
 
Pseudo G said:
My only sticking point would be that I would not want my organs given to people that have fucked their own up by their choice of habit and lifestyle. The 40 year old, pack a day smoker needs a lung transplant? Fuck him, he got given a perfectly good pair of lungs.
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Its great to see that discrimination is flowing through your veins.8( The idea of organ donation is to help someone in need. I don't see how you can say you would not give an organ to one who has been a heavy smoker or drinker etc. You are dead and there is someone who's life can be saved why discriminate? Would you be offended if an organ of yours was given to a black person or a homosexual? I can't fathom your....arh.logic.:\ I agree totally with Strawberry_lovemuffin's opinion.
 
twominds yeah sure, I wouldn't mind my organs going to a homosexual or a black person. Because they are not lifestyle choices that expose yourself to potential health problems requiring organ transplants.

And as for "why discriminate" because there are people that require organ transplants simply cause nature or genetics dealt them a raw deal and there are people that require organ transplants because their choices in life have fucked up the perfectly good organs they got to begin with.

Now why should a person who fucked up their own perfectly good organs get another set to fuck up when someone who equally needs new organs and were born with a condition rendering them screwed (i.e has done nothing to deserve such condition) be deprived. Sure, smokers who got cancer and need a lung transplant can have a set if available, but they should be at the very end of the fucking waiting line cause they had a chance of a healthy life and screwed it up, people with genetic abnormalities and what not never had a chance to begin with and are far more deserving in my opinion.

Your opinions are representative of society today where people believe they shouldn't have to have the responsiblity to deal with the consequences of their choices and actions.
 
i am already registered as an organ donor.

if I die, and my organs are perfectly usable, then why the hell shouldn't someone else get some use out of them... I could save one, or even several lives by donating parts of myself that would otherwise rot in a coffin.
 
Pseudo G said:
Your opinions are representative of society today where people believe they shouldn't have to have the responsiblity to deal with the consequences of their choices and actions.
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I find that an interesting attitude coming from someone who posts on a drug board. I don't know if you take any drugs Pseudo G, but following your logic, alcoholics, heroin addicts or even chronic bong smokers shouldn't be allowed organ transplants either. And what if, 10 years down the track we discover that ecstacy in fact, fucks up your liver?

Do you think people who lie in the sun too much shouldn't be treated for skin cancer?

Or is it just addiction to nicotine that deems someone unworthy of a second chance at life?

ps. hope you take this banter in the manner it's intended, nothing personal, it's an interesting conversation :)
 
the way I see it is this, if i die tomorrow, and my retinas are not damaged, or my liver is still in good condition, or any of my other organs (which is not damaged by me or the fashion in which i died) can be used to save someone elses life, then by all means, they are welcome to it/them. I won't be using them when i die, and if someone else can benefit from it/them, then they are more than welcome. It makes the thought of dying slightly more tolerable.
 
SLM: Yeah it's cool, it's a difference of opinion, not a personal attack on another. :D

Yeah, I take drugs and I understand the risks (thanks BL) and I accept the consequences, both positive and negative. And yes, my opinions extend into other drugs as well. We all make decisions on what we do and put into our bodies. All of us are more than willing to happily accept the positives that result from partaking in prohibited substances, yet no one here seems to want to accept the possible negative reprocussions of their habit/hobby.

If at some stage in the future I find myself lying in a hospital bed, hooked up to a respirator waiting for a new set of lungs and I am lucky enough to get a donor set of lungs to replace the cancerous lungs that were a result of me smoking too much weed. While a young child who made no such life decisions misses out on a set of lungs and continues to wait and/or die as a result. Well I believe that someone who hasn't had a chance at a healthy life deserves a first chance more than someone who had that opportunity and squandered it through their own poor choices deserves a second chance.

*edit* Oh and as I said before. Yeah, people that abuse their bodies should be entitled to organ transplants as well, but they definitely should not be the priority in front of people that haven't had a fair go at a healthy life.
 
Doner, Aye

Strawberry_lovemuffin said:
ps. hope you take this banter in the manner it's intended, nothing personal, it's an interesting conversation :)
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Everyone's getting so nice down here,
where's the fire?

You people have been into my benzo's, haven't you!

Take it all.:)

Take my brain and put it in Steve Martin's head.
 
I tend to agree with Pseudo G. I wouldn't mind people who have fucked up their organs getting mine, but only if they were the last person on the list...
 
^^^I tend to agree with this. My mum had massive heart and kidney problems due to her lifestyle which eventually contributed to her dying, and it was incredibly frustrating knowing that in large part it was her own fault. I do agree with SLM that we need to consider people from older generations come from a different place in that they weren't nearly as aware of health back then as we are now...but for me, that only goes so far. I still think people are ultimately responsible for their own lives unless there's some outside factor literally stopping them from taking on that ownership.

So yeah, I do think smokers, chronic drug users, alcoholics etc should be totally entitled to the benefits of medicine, but I do tend to think that someone whose condition is brought on by something beyond their control should get first place in the queue....

And thanks for the words mazdan...it shits me that there's always need for more donors, but at the same time the medical profession shoots itself in the foot by blanketly shutting out so many people because of orientation or lifestyle choices. Given that they need to test blood before they can give it to someone anyway, I honestly don't understand why it's an issue...
 
When you put it that way, Pseudo G, of course I agree with you. On a human level, everyone is equal and deserves to live, but I for one would never deny a sick innocent child a second chance at life before someone who knowingly self-destructed.

If it's a matter of degrees, then fair enough. I just thought you were arguing that they didn't deserve organ transplants at all. And I just think that - at times - there is a lot more grey area in drug abuse than some people think. Extenuating circumstances etc. Just as "just say no" doesn't work, "just quit" doesn't cover the intricacies involved in addiction either.

BUT... we digress. On with the topic :D

ps. Unsquare: yeah I'm a total wuss at engaging in arguments without qualifying their benign nature. I need to watch more Jerry Springer =D
 
i doubt anyone would want my organs, there pretty beaten up :p but i would definitely be an organ donar (when i actually get my licence that is) and i'd be more than happy to give my eyes to someone, what the hell am i going to do with them when i'm dead? it's a bit selfish not to i think when you would be able to givce someone the oppurtunity to see , maybe even someone who may have never been able to see? I think that would be an amazing gift to give to someone :)
 
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