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Orange Triangles Adelaide - LSD

Thanks Dr Platypus for all your efforts.
When are these politicians goin to realise GCMS is not what we want, but what we need. As the ecstasy trade BOOMS here in Australia we are going to have those slime balls try make any easy buck and put shit out on the streets. Who ever thought we would see LSD in pills? Whats next to come? Nobody knows? Its easy to say get a reagent tester but the large number of people I know don't even think about what could be in there pills let alone take the precautions and test. Its only a minority that do care, most young people have the no care in the world attitude. But I myself as a father have to take some precautions, where two years ago i wouldn't have cared either. I would be happy enough to see the testing of suspect pills,something is better than nothing.
 
When I said "political bullshit" it was a rather large generalisation.
When I ever read or hear about politics, its always something so trival.
"overly-suspicious, even paranoid" thats probably correct.
I wasn't refering to anything about your work, or even drugs really.

Once again- the measures that exist currently do so to prevent harm (and they hang by a thread, and are there because of a MEDICAL demand for them) and those that think that this is not enough and that it should be a system available to facilitate ones' week-end pleasures are pushing their luck in this country at the moment.
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I found that quite interesting. But personally I think there are too many dodgy pills out there. If I was to guess id say a very small percentage of pills sold as Ecstacy, are ecstacy.
 
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I wouldn't say a very small percentage, it would be about 50 percent MD. I have come across K and Speed bombs but only from one source. We demand md pills, thats all we will accept, maybe you have a crook supplier. Most pills do have MD, maybe just not the amount desired. I can remember when you could get pills and a half was enough for a great time. Pills of today you require a couple, nothing to do with tolerance either. But don't get me wrong there are still good flippas around if you have a good source.
 
Im talking strictly MDMA, not MDEA, MDA or other varieties.
Im talking pills where there is one active ingredient, that being MDMA. Which happens to be ecstacy.

50% you must be dreaming. so you're saying every second pill you buy off the street is going to be ecstacy.

Its got nothing to do with my supplier. I might not even buy pills.
 
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Buying off the street is a bad idea, you'll pay too much, you wont know what it is and most likely end up with poor quality. You will probably find some of your best rolls would of had a mixture of one of the other varieties. If you are looking for the 100% mdma maybe you should import some powder.
 
No shit its a bad idea buying off the street. But thats where the pills end up, on the street.
Where did I say I buy off the street, personally im not that stupid and only ever have and will get them through ONE person. But not everybody is that lucky, or knows that ecstacy in australia is some of the most un-pure around.

Not everybody has information at their finger tips to make wise choices. Oneday I hope everybody DOES have that option, to make informed choices and not get slapped in the face with some LSD....... or even WORSE!

Just because one person can get MDMA 95% of the time, DOES NOT MEAN the general population has this luxury.

I read somewhere that Dr Caldicott tested pills one night and 25% of them had ketamine in them. (sorry if this is wrong but I dont have time to find the article right now)


I would also just like to say, its great to see this happening in my home city, where some common sense has been used in relation to drugs in the past (marijuana laws) While I am not advocating MDMA over the shelf, if lives can be saved... save them.
 
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ah-annie said:
thank u cowboy mac and dr platypus [dr caldicott] i on behalf of australia n NZ thank u 4 ur efforts in harm minimization n i hope u can achieve much more in your in research
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I agree completely!

BigTrancer :)
 
erba said:
... 25% of them had ketamine in them. (sorry if this is wrong but I dont have time to find the article right now)
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This doesn't diminish your argument, and I know you said sorry, but it really pays to check the facts are accurate and quote a source when you're trying to use statistics to prove a point.

BigTrancer :)
 
I think pill testers should be able to test for lsd as well aye. It's a wonder they don't because they test for dxm and that's pretty rare in a pill in australia as well.

Anyway all I can say is, more pills like bermudas need to be pressed, kill the monotony of the same old MD** crap that these poor raver kids get.

Another thing, I think that other batches of bermudas need to be tested as the one that was tested was an original orange bermuda from couple years back (the most potent ones in my opinion) and does not reflect the experience of a lot of ppl who had the pinkish/salmon coloured ones recently (which I reckon were recrushes). All in all, it's still good to have an answer :D

Funny I heard there were ketamine in the newer batches, didn't think it was true in a sense, but some of the pink/salmon ones I had did have a cloudiness to them, but that could just be set and setting.


Peace Out
 
you BOOB, do you have any freakign clue how dangerous lsd is for the unprepared mind? Have you never seen somebody flip out on it completely? There is no freaking way lsd should come out in pills more - keep it largely in tabs, dots and liquid, that way people usually have an obvious idea when they take lsd...

Further Im sure if their ws an lsd test kit available it would be one of the first things everybody tested for...
 
^It says in here the Marquis reagent can indicate LSD, but it can only detect as little as 5ug. I'm not sure how much was in the bermudas but I imagine you'd be sacrificing a good portion of the hit to detect anything. I don't know many munters who would test as much as half a pill.

I didn't know they were LSD so I forgot to do the blacklight test on them. :(

While more LSD would be nice, I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to sell it in pill form to unsuspecting ravers without them knowing what it is and how to prepare for it. After all, some of these people have serious emotional issues.
 
Nice link gher, cheers. I allways thought marquis was incapable of showing the presence of lsd even at doses around 5ug.
 
I very much doubt 5ug of LSD would show on a Marquis, at the very least without being viewed under a UV light source.

Sulphuric acid is quoted in the Handbook of Drug Analysis 1997 as the third sequential reagant applied for a systematic id on chromographic plates

The full sequence listed for LSD (no qualitative mins given)

1) Ninhydrin: UV = light purple, --> 90 deg C --> purple
2) diphenylcarbazone/ mercuric sulphate: Pink
3) Sulphuric acid: UV = orange
4)Iodoplatinate: Tan orange/ green
Silver nitrate-potassium iodide-iodine-ammonia: Tan

The Van Urk test is often mentioned in literature but it's also known to lack sensitivity at low concentrations typical of a blotter
It uses dimethylaminobenzaldehyde- ethanol- HCl
 
Is LSD really that dangerous being in a pill? Sure, it may be uncomfortable for those that are expecting another drug and dont know how to handle tripping, but given that it would takes thousands of LSD pills to reach an OD level, and also that LSD doesnt cause any physical changes (whereas mdxx will decrease your serotonin levels among other things) in my opinion implies a certain degree of safety (if u can consider any drug 'safe'). I think that because of the relatively high level required for an OD, there is less of a need to detect it, compared with something like PMA that can kill at a little over a normal dose, or even mdxx which can be fatal in a bit over normal dosing. Hence we dont have any methods for testing lsd like we do for testing the presence of mdxx

That said, I can still understand someone who isnt suspecting lsd seriously hurting themselves simply because their perception is too altered for them to have a proper grasp of reality.

edit: I'd also like to say that I think a reagent test for the presence of lsd would be great, not only would it be good to determine if it was in a pill, but also to easily be able to discover a dud blotter. Though I wonder, how often we will see lsd pills in the future? :\
 
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I think we're talking more about psychological damage to someone who is not prepared for it. LSD is an EXTREMELY POWERFUL chemical. When taken in an incorrect set & setting (unsuspecting ravers in a club possibly one of the worst) has the ability to even scar someone mentally for a long time.
 
You're right ... I overlooked that angle a little in my previous post. If theres one thing these bermudas have taught me, its shown just how powerful lsd can be. How many people consumed a bermuda, thinking it to be an unknown chemical, and after the experience considering it a research chemical? I know I sure did. But it really was just in my mind, subconsciously believeing it to be something else, and this changed the whole trip. I respect acid alot more than I used to after this experience.
 
Yup, I can attest to that a few years back I spent a VERY interesting night running around crown casino (and a particular "hot" club upstairs) on LSD. Lets just say it was one of the most uncomfortable exerences I have ever had and I learnt allot from it. Namely NEVER take these sort of drugs in a setting your not sure you can deal with. Especialy if you have some mario bulging with roid induced muscle mass punching the air inches from your nose as the world disolves around you......
The paranioa and freaky nature of that place has led me to never enter the evil building again!
 
Okay rephrase time, there should be more pills like bermudas but ppl should be told it's a trippin pill :P Most ppl I knew who sold bermudas told the customers it was a tripstacy so I was personally forewarned, but even if I wasn't, mneh, u should be able to tell u ate something trippy when the walls start to melt into a rainbow :P So yes, more pills like bermudas. And I have seen ppl flip out on acid, and I seen ppl flip out on MD** as well, it's all in the fucken mind. Get over it u big fucken baby.

Hell the day they can put a pure psilocibe extract into a pill is the day I wait for :P Shame that won't happen.

I think it's a shame that ppl flip out on acid unnescessarily, it's more the attitude that some ppl have where trip = insanity. So they make themselves believe that shit. It's all a rollercoaster, go for the ride, have fun and if u start thinkin strange thoughts, who cares, go with it. It really is that simple, if u can't do that, u shouldn't be taking drugs full stop.

Peace Out
 
Dirty_Deed: You completly miss the point.
it's all in the fucken mind. Get over it u big fucken baby.
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are you sugesting mental health is not a big deal?
I also think your response is the typical "your a farkin soft kock maaaaannnn" response that I think is very wrong.
I had a great time but can think of much better places to take this amazing substance. I didn't think how I deal with drugs was the point of the converstation, I was mearly giving examples of what could cause a bad reaction in people not ready to deal with it. (I was due to deliberatly taking the drug)
 
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