Old school beaner looking for answers.

[Dcar777]

Im 31yrs old now. Back in 1999-2003, extacy was everywhere.

Ill get straight to my point and then question. When I would take extacy, I would get the rolly/jittery eyes, chenched jaw, blow up feeling.

Now, there's molly. Which, from what im reading SHOULD be pure MDMA. MDMA is is extacy. True so far? Okay.

Every single time (not exaggerating) I would take extacy back in the day, I would get all of those aforementioned feelings and effects.

I have never taken molly but I am curious to do so. People tell me its NOTHING like extacy in the sense of jitter eyes, jaw clenching and most importantly, blowing up.

So here is my question.... If I have taken # xxx amount of extacy pills and I have blown up every single time and its safe to assume that MDMA was the ONLY constant chemical ALWAYS in the mix, what the hell was making me blow up if MDMA ddoesn't make you do that?

I haven't taken an extacy pill in over 10 years. Im expecting to get some molly and be severely let down expecting the old Bean feelings and getting nothing mire than a toe tingle.

So again, if MDMA is molly and MDMA is SUPPOSED to be in extacy, what if giving me all those blow up feelings with extacy?

This is my 1st post. Hope I didn't violate any rules and thanks in advance for any replies.

 

[LuGoJ]

Most of the molly sold in the US is not MDMA. It is usually a research chemical such as Methylone or Mephedrone. Get a test kit and test your shit!

 

[Dcar777]

Funny you mention that, I just ordered my 4 bottle test kit. But your response did not come close to answering any part of my question. So ill try to make my question very clear.

Assuming I had in one hand and old school bean. In the other hand, I had FOR SURE proven/tested pure MDMA.

What is in the bean that makes me roll/blow up?

 

[Lightning-Nl]

Most of the molly sold in the US is not MDMA. It is usually a research chemical such as Methylone or Mephedrone. Get a test kit and test your shit!

This guys right.

I read an article couple weeks ago "warning" parents about molly. in the article it said that the three most common chemicals in molly pills are Mephedrone, Methamphetamine and MDMA.

What is in the bean that makes me roll/blow up?

It's actually all the chemicals in the pill that make you roll. MDMA provides the psychedelic part of the high as well as some stimulation, and the others provide the really stimulated feeling you get.

 

[Maya]

Thinking back I actually experienced jittery eyes, chenched jaw, blow up feeling as well.. yikes!

 

[Folley]

It's actually all the chemicals in the pill that make you roll. MDMA provides the psychedelic part of the high as well as some stimulation, and the others provide the really stimulated feeling you get.

This is untrue. MDMA alone can cause all of those feelings.


Pure MDMA "molly" sure as hell makes me "blow up", it fucking makes me feel AMAZING. If people say their doesn't do that, it's likely extremely cut down or another weaker chemical all together. Or of course, they may equate the "blowing up" aspect of the pill to all the piperazine pills they've taken, and the good MDMA molly they got doesn't feel like that...


The only way to know if you have a good pill OR "Molly" is to test, the market is not what it was 10 years ago.

 

[futura2012]

Assuming I had in one hand and old school bean. In the other hand, I had FOR SURE proven/tested pure MDMA.

What is in the bean that makes me roll/blow up?

This has been a topic of long speculation and debate

from my own experience I have often found a different buzz from pills vs mdma powder and in many cases both the pill and powder have theoretically been the same drug.

I think its something to do with the synth, possibley something in the fillers such as caffeine and sugars.

Otherwise its always been a bit of a mistery to me but pills I have found more full on feeling and the powder more sit down and chat type feeling. Not always but the majority of the time.

If you mix the powder with meth or speed however then things change very quickly :D

Alternatively if you seek the 90s experience you could try some of the newer super pills around such as the party flocks, bomb 250s or nintendos most people report a good buzz from these.

 

[Lightning-Nl]

This is untrue. MDMA alone can cause all of those feelings.

This is true, but so can any other amphetamine.

His question was what specific chemical in molly that makes you "blow up". Well, the point of my post was to explain that all all of those drugs can make you blow up. For instance...

I've only taken MDMA once (as Ecstasy). MDMA was the most euphoric and made music so amazing and awesome that I just wanted to give everyone a hug. I have a prescription for Adderall and take it everyday.

It's rare, but every once in a while, Adderall will feel exactly like MDMA for the first 30 minuets it's active.

 

[Clocktower]

Use a test kit on your old school bean and find out.

It kinda sounds like you're working on hearsay here. Why don't you try some crystalline MDMA and decide for yourself?

 

[Dcar777]

It's actually all the chemicals in the pill that make you roll.

aaaaand those chemicals would be....?

Thinking back I actually experienced jittery eyes, chenched jaw, blow up feeling as well.. yikes!

Yikes? Thats what I'm looking for! I dont want to be sitting around and turn into a salad shooter talking about my feelings all night! I want my eyes to roll in the back of my head and grind my teeth down to the roots! haha jk

This is untrue. MDMA alone can cause all of those feelings.
Pure MDMA "molly" sure as hell makes me "blow up", it fucking makes me feel AMAZING.

Assuming one were to acquire pure tested MDMA and was 6ft and weighed about 210, what would a good dose be? haha I've been reading that .1 is normal. I'm not normal. People I talk to say .2 or .25. Thoughts?

Alternatively if you seek the 90s experience you could try some of the newer super pills around such as the party flocks, bomb 250s or nintendos most people report a good buzz from these.

Actually, let me back up a bit. I said it has been over 10 years since I ate a bean, which in theory is still true. However, at a company christmas party (best bosses int he world) my boss gave me a nintendo. It was oblong shaped, I could snap it in half with my fingers but it was not brittle and it was beige in color with micro brown specs. So I took it. It felt like I was going to blow up but never hit the finish line. Total let down. I have pics but I'm not sre if I'm allowed to post them in here or not. That night he had Nintendos, RedBulls and a GIANT skull pill.

 

[lostsoul.On.E]

Actually, let me back up a bit. I said it has been over 10 years since I ate a bean, which in theory is still true. However, at a company christmas party (best bosses int he world) my boss gave me a nintendo. It was oblong shaped, I could snap it in half with my fingers but it was not brittle and it was beige in color with micro brown specs. So I took it. It felt like I was going to blow up but never hit the finish line. Total let down. I have pics but I'm not sre if I'm allowed to post them in here or not. That night he had Nintendos, RedBulls and a GIANT skull pill.

Those nintendos are around 200mgs of mdma. If you took a whole one and didnt roll hard as fuck after a ten year break maybe theres other factors involved.

 

[Lightning-Nl]

aaaaand those chemicals would be....?

Stated plain as day IN THE SAME SENTENCE! Can you read that? or can you not find this? I'll stated it again since you obviously can't read.

Molly is a mix of any number of synthetic cathinones, phenylethylamines, and amphetamines. However, according to a recent study done - the three chemicals most often found in Mollies are Mephedrone (Methylephedrone) Meth (Dextro-Methamphetamine) and Ecstasy (MDMA or methylenedioxymethylamphetamine)

 

[Folley]

Molly is a mix of any number of synthetic cathinones, phenylethylamines, and amphetamines.

It CAN be. In theory it should be pure MDMA but that's like buying coke and expecting it to be pure.

However, according to a recent study done - the three chemicals most often found in Mollies are Mephedrone (Methylephedrone) Meth (Dextro-Methamphetamine) and Ecstasy (MDMA or methylenedioxymethylamphetamine)

Uh, and what study would that be? Mephedrone in "molly" isn't that common, it's more commonly methylone these days.



Also, clarifying meth as "dextro-methamphetamine" doesn't make much sense.. that is one part of the drug, but there is also the levo-methamphetamine and racemic versions of the drug as well.

 

[Lightning-Nl]

Also, clarifying meth as "dextro-methamphetamine" doesn't make much sense.. that is one part of the drug, but there is also the levo-methamphetamine and racemic versions of the drug as well.

I've been through high school chemistry too - I know what a chiral molecule is. I differentiated between the Dextrotory and Levrotory chirals of Methamphetamine because Levo-Methamphetamine is CNS inactive and won't cause this "blow up" feeling that everyone is talking about.

Uh, and what study would that be? Mephedrone in "molly" isn't that common, it's more commonly methylone these days.

The article I remember reading was on ABC News a year or so ago. The only thing I took away from the article was "Molly is Meth, Drone, and Ecstasy."

 

[Sunshine Daydream]

Funny you mention that, I just ordered my 4 bottle test kit. But your response did not come close to answering any part of my question. So ill try to make my question very clear.

Assuming I had in one hand and old school bean. In the other hand, I had FOR SURE proven/tested pure MDMA.

What is in the bean that makes me roll/blow up?

There is a pretty simple answer to that question. Take imported pills for example (nintendos, def-cons, skulls ect.) I would bet anything in this world that you would would feel like "blowing up", or rolling face or whatever the term you use if you ate one of those. The problem these days is there is a decent % of ecstasy pills and molly that simply isnt mdma. Also, if you are lucky enough to even get just mdma it is most likely going to be such a low dose/cut so much that you dont feel that "magic", which is what you are describing. So long story short you dont feel like rolling balls/blowing up because of the quality of beans/molly these days.(atleast in the united states)

 

[Sunshine Daydream]

Those nintendos are around 200mgs of mdma. If you took a whole one and didnt roll hard as fuck after a ten year break maybe theres other factors involved.

That is what I was thinking as well. Taking a nintendo with a KNOWN 200+mg of mdma and being let down tells me you might be suffering from some kind of neurological damage or a complete "loss of magic". I've seen both first hand.

 

[Dcar777]

That is what I was thinking as well. Taking a nintendo with a KNOWN 200+mg of mdma and being let down tells me you might be suffering from some kind of neurological damage or a complete "loss of magic". I've seen both first hand.

If that is the case, that would most deff not be good. However, not Impossible I guess. I was eating those things likec tic-tacs back in the day. 1-3 times a week for about 3 years.... good chance iI've burnt out my spark plugs /

 

[Dcar777]

Am I allowed to post pics of the pills in here? Just to see if these are in fact the "200mg" Nintendos everyone speaks of?

 

[futura2012]

i think so i have posted pics of pills before using postimage.org

 

[Folley]

Pictures are fine