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New (and less new) RCs - Alphabet Soup

I'd assume that it's all down to technicalities of the law, and the same quirks of chemical structure which allow RC 'benzos' to pass beneath the radar. It'd be difficult to amend existing laws to cover all permutations, and I imagine any kind of blanket ban would present a barrier to legitimate research of novel compounds.
 
Sammy G said:
I'd assume that it's all down to technicalities of the law, and the same quirks of chemical structure which allow RC 'benzos' to pass beneath the radar. It'd be difficult to amend existing laws to cover all permutations, and I imagine any kind of blanket ban would present a barrier to legitimate research of novel compounds.
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Thanks Sammy - it's a shame that the unwillingness to 'present a barrier to legitimate research of novel compounds' doesn't extend to the stims or psychs. If I were more cynical, I would presume that our government don't mind a subdued population, but are very frightened by a stimulated or enlightened population... ;)
 
Well, mephedrone was allowed to thrive for quite a while until the tabloids got wind of it, and AMT was available for years. I really don't think there's much rhyme or reason to drug legislation, especially in this day and age.

I'm sure there were many of the old guard frightened by the subversive potential of weed and acid in the fifties and sixties, but I don't think there's any such paranoia now.

What's an 'enlightened' kid gonna do these days anyhow? Make a post on fucking Twitter in the forlorn hope that somebody reads it and gives a fuck?
 
Sammy G said:
Well, mephedrone was allowed to thrive for quite a while until the tabloids got wind of it, and AMT was available for years. I really don't think there's much rhyme or reason to drug legislation, especially in this day and age.

I'm sure there were many of the old guard frightened by the subversive potential of weed and acid in the fifties and sixties, but I don't think there's any such paranoia now.

What's an 'enlightened' kid gonna do these days anyhow? Make a post on fucking Twitter in the forlorn hope that somebody reads it and gives a fuck?
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Or, (god forbid) - Facebook..!
 
Anyone encountered methamnetamine yet? It's apparently an analogue of methamphetamine but just looks like a typo to me.. (apparently also called methylnaphthetamine)

My mate's asking me about it and I hadn't heard of it before.. sounds like it's more of an empathogen than anything stimmy though.
 
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Given its structure, I expected a potent DRA, but reports seem to paint it as an empathogen. Interesting, but that Napthyl sub puts me off touching it.
 
I wouldn't let it worry you too much, benzene, benzofuran, thiophene etc are all miserable on their own but fine when substituted because they are no longer reliant on elimination through oxidation of the aromatic system.

I suspect there will be larger health concerns than carcinogenicity attached to this.
 
Can any of you chemistry heads speculate on the new UK legal ACH thats being developed ?
Am hoping its good but not too much a beast.
 
Hey all,

So I haven't really been following the RC scene at all, and the last RC I tried was Mephedrone. What's the most euphoric and currently legal RC stim? I'm preferably looking for something more towards the dopaminergic side - if I go out and do mephedrone in a night, two to four days later I'll get the depression and blue feeling similar to the depression post MDMA, whereas when I do "purer" dopamienrgic stimulants like cocaine or amphetamine I'll feel more tired and sluggish the next day but then the day after that I'm totally, totally fine, and this is what I'm looking for in a stimulant, as I can't afford impairment that many days after the experience. So, what's the best, most euphoric stimulant on the market at the moment, preferably one thats not empathogenic as thats indicative of working on serotonin in the same way mephedrone/mdma does and I don't want the depressed/blue feeling a few days later.

Would really appreciate your advice guys!
 
If you are looking for a euphoric Mephedrone replacement I think you'll find yourself highly disappointed at the current state of the RC stimulant market. However, both Methiopropamine (MPA) & Ethylphendidate (EPH) might be worth following up on if you can settle for a more subtle high - they are more enhancers than in your face drugs. I think there are other stimulants around but I don't know anything about them. Probably because they aren't worth a second glance.
 
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If you are looking for a euphoric Mephedrone replacement I think you'll find yourself highly disappointed at the current state of the RC stimulant market. However, both Methiopropamine (MPA) & Ethylphendidate (EPH) might be worth following up on if you can settle for a more subtle high - they are more enhancers than in your face drugs. I think there are other stimulants around but I don't know anything about them. Probably because they aren't worth a second glance.
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I'm not necessarily looking for a mephedrone replacement. OUt of the stimulants I've tried, I loved all of them except for mBZP + TMFPP "party pills", that's literally the only bad stimulant experience I had, and that's because it was a weird burst of energy that left as fast as it came and then a load of weird side effects like body temperture extreme fluctuations, a shitty tired lethargic feeling, a literal stutter, shaky hands/legs and a bunch of other shitty effects that meant I couldn't even enjoy the psychedlia that came afterwards. Awful drug. The other stims I've tried are mephedrone, amphetamine, methylphenidate, cocaine, crack, MDMA and MDA and I loved all of them. Even without the massive euphoria of mephedrone, MDMA etc I just adore the feeling of stimulation, even when it's mild like methylphenidate or 4-MEC, so give me any halfway decent stim and I'm usually happy, it's just I try and keep my research chemical use very, very limited so if I'm gonna experience one I'd like to pick the most euphoric out of the bunch.

Out of the stims I've listed could you tell me which MPA or EPA is closest to in terms of effects? And how do they compare to eachother? Thanks a lot for your help man.
 
Well, EPH is an analogue of Methylphenidate... I've not tried it myself but some people swear it is the best stimulant RC available at the moment for what it is. It is however very caustic, so it's not a good idea to insufflate it & I've heard mixed reviews about it's consistency orally. As for MPA, I imagine it again is quite similar being as it acts on the same neurotransmitters. It's a fiendy little stim that never quite gets you there but can be enjoyable nonetheless. It lacks any notable euphoria but still perks you up a bit.

Then there is also 2-Aminoindane (2-AI), N-methyl-2-AI & 3'-fluorophenmetrazine which is a new chemical. I know absolutely nothing about those. Maybe someone out there can point you in the right direction with regards to the last 3 RCs.
 
Has anyone tried Methamnetamine? N-methyl-1-(naphthalen-2-yl)propan-2-amine is a structural analog of Methamphetamine in which the Phenyl group has been replaced with naphthalene.

Just been released can't seem to find a lot about it. If tried can you let us know how you found it?
 
Hey Foolsgold (or anyone for that matter), have you tried the 3-fpm crystal yet? I've been getting a bit dissolutioned with the powder recently as the quality seems to have declined rapidly - either that or I'm building a tolerance. So I thought I'd give the crystal a go this weekend. It was a fiver more expensive than the powder equivalent, but when it arrived it was 1g over so well worth the extra. Anyway, this was the closest I've had to legal amphetamine yet. It also felt smoother and cleaner with less physical side effects than the powder. I've had fuck all sleep since thursday night, hardly eaten a thing and I'm still feeling good :) I reckon its worth a try....
 
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