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Neo-Doves test results

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Are we any closer to finding out what is in these???? I am still happy to donate $$$ to get a result if that will help, as I'm sure may others would too...
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I passed the GCMS data onto phase_dancer whilst in Australia.

I can get more analysed at local University if somebody sends me samples sealed in original packaging.

I will post the resulting data here.

email me matt at stargate dot org dot nz to organise.
 
Sorry if I sounded a little demanding, just really eager to find out what I am putting my brain through... PD has said the results are on the way, but if this falls through I will send some over to you Starboy.. Thanks...

Anyone have any good ideas regarding 5htp or Sam-E in terms of aiding recovery on these? I take Sam-E, assuming the dopamine recovery will be enhanced, but I can't really tell if it is helping or not...
 
ND is not something you want to snort really. It's quite painful and the outcome won't be any better than injesting it. Seriously people - get over your snorting fascination.

I find very few drugs are worth insufflating. Many of them a far more effective downing with th exceptions of cocaine and ketamine.

Seriously people, it aint worth snorting the ND's. I;ve done it and regretting it.

On another note, I have a question to people who have acquired ND a few times at different times.

I only ever get a 5g bottle and I remember the first time. It was filled to the rim, the powder disolved very easily in water. The second time, it wasn't as fine - particles chunkier and it wasnt filled to the top. smelled like the same range but different. More tangy....
This batch did not disolve in liquids very easily. Actually most of it wouldn't disolve in water.

3rd batch, back to disolving and finer.

what i am saying is that the product is not consistent from batch to batch which is a little worrying.

Has anyone else noticed this??
(I can say that the 2nd batch was less effective)
 
I noticed chunks in it and even dirt on the outside of my capsules. i may of got the poor batch then.
 
OK, so we cant even mention another forums name here?
Well, what i said before i got edited, was that i posted on another bigger forum (that has more info on the Neo range)
I posted about my mates allergic reaction to SC's last week, Here is what i posted:

First time trying something from this range.
28yo Male who has no known allergies.

This is what happened to my friend last night.
He took 1 SC orally, then within about 10 minutes, his whole body (including his face) had turned completely bright red, his eyelids and lips swelled up (he could still blink and talk ok) He also had a rash (like hives) all over his torso.
Mentally he felt fine; he just looked like a bright red puff ball.
This was very scary as we thought it could be the start of Anaphylactic shock, which is a life-threatening medical emergency due to the rapid constriction of the airway (your throat swells up)
We were prepared to call the ambulance if he felt any trouble breathing.
We drove to the chemist and got some Antihistamines (Demazin)
He ingested 1 tablet and the swelling and redness started to fade within 10 minutes, after about 30 mins, he was completely back to normal.
I don’t know if it was the antihistamine that helped, or if the reaction was just a short lived one anyhow.
About 1 hour later he decided to try a Neo-Dove (tested a bit on his tongue first)
He had no reaction to that and was felling pretty damm good :-)

I love this range and so do all my friends, but if anyone gets the same reaction as above, I wouldn’t recommend rushing them to ER unless they are having trouble breathing. Administer an antihistamine and wait 15 mins for the swelling/redness to fade before panicking.
Telling ER they took this range might not be a good idea as this could bring bad attention to the company, thus banning them even more quickly.
The ingredients are unknown, so naming the company is not going to achieve anything.

[EDIT: Removed Name. Lil Angel15]
 
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A doctor friend asked me to post this in response to the above post:

"Though he probably doesn't want to try SC again, he definitely shouldn't. Because moderate allergic reactions can sometimes indicate a risk of a serious anaphylatic shock on the next contact with the substance. This is called sensitisation."

In other words don't take any of that shit again... I like them too, but if I had a reaction like that I wouldn't take anything from the whole range... Maybe I'm getting old..?..
 
In case anyone is interested I weighed 4 NDs and 4 of the "compressor" pill versions and got the average. There is no way (for me) to tell what percentage is active and how much is binding/filler etc but here are the weights anyway:

ND pills: 0.453g
ND caps: 0.383g
 
Some of my caps weighed as little as 0.181 and some weighed 0.400.
Probably best to buy the powder if you like this stuff.
 
About 1 hour later he decided to try a Neo-Dove (tested a bit on his tongue first)
He had no reaction to that and was felling pretty damm good :-)



Thats the spirit that helped make this country what it is!=D
 
I bought four ND's off the net. Took 13 days to get here from the night I made the payment. A friend and I had two each, felt just like a pill to me, bit shorter peak and a bit of a dry mouth but major jaw clenching. Pretty impressed.. I'm thinking of buying some more but I might wait for the test results to come in.. are they coming?
 
The results were inconclusive, aka. wrong.

The fact that a cathinone analogue was noted by someone who is unexperienced with reading a gas chromatograph - says to me that it's about an 80% chance the chemicals involved are probably - drumroll - beta-ketone mdxx analogues.

to have effects in the same empathetic spectrum, to interact and give effects so similar - one need only put 2 and 2 together.
 
It's still being worked on.
Person who is interpreting the new data is a busy person and theyll update us first on the results.
 
The fact that a cathinone analogue was noted by someone who is unexperienced with reading a gas chromatograph - says to me that it's about an 80% chance the chemicals involved are probably - drumroll - beta-ketone mdxx analogues.
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I'm not saying you're completely wrong, but it appears at this stage that there's quite a bit more to it. I'm sure you'll know once there's a conclusive result.
 
p_d; Perhaps there is - but i think my guesses are on the money - if not enhanced versions of my hypothesis. As is stated the person who had originally seen the chromatograph reports was able to determine that much from them.

Be interesting to see the full results
 
If you were on the money J_S, look at a bunch of other things it could be..


BK-2C-TFM (legal worldwide?) - 1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminoethanone
BK-DOTFM (legal worldwide?) - 1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminopropan-1-one
DOTFM - 1-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminopropane
3-hydroxyphenethylamine - 1-(3-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
3-methoxyphenethylamine - 1-(3-Methoxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
4-hydroxyphenethylamine - 1-(4-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
4-methoxyphenethylamine (MAO A+B inhibitor, maybe active?) - 1-(4-Methoxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
N-benzyl-2C-B - 2-Benzylamino-1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-ethane
n-methyl-BK-DOTFM (probably not very active, worldwide legal?) - 2-Methylamino-1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)propan-1-one
n-methyl-BK-3,4-dihydroxyamphetamine - 2-Methylamino-1-(3,4-dihydroxyphenyl)propan-1-one hydrochloride
n-(4-chlorobenzoyl)-4-hydroxyphenethylamine - N-(4-Chlorobenzoyl)-1-(4-hydroxyphenyl)-2-aminoethane
N-Acetyl phenyl-2-aminoethane
N-Benzyl phenyl-2-aminoethane
n-benzyl-2C-TFM - N-Benzyl-1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminoethane
n-benzyl-DOTFM - N-Benzyl-1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-methylaminopropane
n-benzyl-2,5-DMA - N-Benzyl-1-(2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-aminopropane
n-benzyl-4-methoxyamphetamine - N-Benzyl-1-(4-methoxyphenyl)-2-aminopropane
n-ethyl-4-methoxyamphetamine - N-ethyl-1-(4-methoxyphenyl)-2-aminopropane
2C-TFM - 1-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethylphenyl)-2-aminoethane


Some may be active, at low or high doses, some may not even be active above, but active when put all together..

This is just a small list of stuff that can be synthed or sourced very cheapily and easily. Who knows WTF is in these things.
 
mmm drool ^^^^^^^^^so many chemicals
if someone could put up trip reports of some of those chems we might be able to get an idea.
yeah i recon from now on i only getting the powder the caps are too inconsistent in effects and weight.
any one had any of those chems
 
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